ImLive ratios are shit?? Just maybe this is why..... - GoFuckYourself.com

Tempest · 03-25-2008, 01:49 PM

Pleasurepays · 03-25-2008, 02:07 PM

everyone knows that any and all ratio problems are because of free porn and shaving.

vending_machine · 03-25-2008, 02:18 PM

Tempest - have you promoted Moneytree/Streamate?

tranza · 03-25-2008, 02:24 PM

That's no good...

Tempest · 03-25-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

everyone knows that any and all ratio problems are because of free porn and shaving.

Oops.. silly me.. I forgot to preach the party line.. Guess I'll have to turn in my sheep membership card...

Tempest · 03-25-2008, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vending_machine

Tempest - have you promoted Moneytree/Streamate?

Yep... They're actually 1 of the 3 I promote and run my scripts on... I can't remember when I last saw an error like these for streamate...

Perfect Andi · 03-25-2008, 02:53 PM

fuck shaving. Get waxed.

vending_machine · 03-25-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

Yep... They're actually 1 of the 3 I promote and run my scripts on... I can't remember when I last saw an error like these for streamate...

Anything we can do to get you to send more traffic? ;)

pussycash-ron · 03-26-2008, 02:24 AM

Tempest, There were short local system issues but the site is working fine now. please contact me if you are still experiencing Tech problems with the site.

l0lf4c3 · 03-26-2008, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Andi

fuck shaving. Get waxed.

LOL

CunningStunt · 03-26-2008, 03:19 AM

I dropped them years ago. Thought everyone else did too...

timoxxl2 · 03-26-2008, 03:42 AM

try CupidoCash.com ;-)

Kevsh · 03-26-2008, 06:08 AM

If you're not converting with PussyCash, it's not due to technical issues. There are a LOT of webmasters clearly doing very well with them.

So while it's noble you want to help them with their technical problems, blaming that for your poor conversions is a cop-out, and weak. - and typical of so many webmasters Try looking on your side of things first.

pussycash-ron · 03-26-2008, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by vending_machine

Anything we can do to get you to send more traffic? ;)

We doont Mind you fishing in our pool from time to time VM, but pissing in it? Man, thats not playing Nice ;)

Tempest · 03-26-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vending_machine

Anything we can do to get you to send more traffic? ;)

Promo material... i.e. FHGs.. and make it so we can grab some of the videos to chop up for promotions as well...

And slap the hosts around so they put the right freakin ages in their profiles and don't advertises themselves as "teen" when they're not etc. etc. etc.

Tempest · 03-26-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh

If you're not converting with PussyCash, it's not due to technical issues. There are a LOT of webmasters clearly doing very well with them.

So while it's noble you want to help them with their technical problems, blaming that for your poor conversions is a cop-out, and weak. - and typical of so many webmasters Try looking on your side of things first.

Really??? Your kidding me... Wow.. Thanks for that brilliant insite of yours.. From someone advertising web cam sites with affiliate links in your sig... I'm not some newb.. I know very well all the factors that go into bad and good ratios...

Oh.. And you wanna provide me with a list of this "lot of webmasters clearly doing very well with them?".. That's a bogus statement that they always pull out whenever there's a bunch of WMs bitching about ratios. There's no proof behind it so it means absolutely nothing. And just to be clear... Even IF there was a list, it would mean squat... The "WMs" doing well could/would be the ones that upsell from inside members areas or those that have traffic that is specifically looking for webcams as opposed to the majority of the affiliates which will have freeloader porn surfers from TGPs etc. Those types of affiliates will always do better than the ones with the freeloader traffic..

Regardless, anyone that thinks that the site being 500 or having insane slow loading pages, or having cam hosts that the surfer can't connect to.. or get dropped from (a consistent problem with imlive) won't have a real negative impact on conversions and long term revshare, clearly doesn't have a clue. It really shows a persons mindset when they speak out against improvements to a site that would even imporove their conversions and revenue.

minniesoporno · 03-26-2008, 06:30 PM

Well now imlive are paying the host 30% so the ratios might be going down even more.

RadiantX · 03-26-2008, 06:42 PM

Wow, they were paying 35% a couple years ago. I cant believe any hosts stay with them when iFriendsv2 pays their hosts 50% regardless, and 100% if they refer the customer to the platform. My iFriends clickcash account converts 100x better too. :: shrugs ::

minniesoporno · 03-26-2008, 07:31 PM

ImLive is pulling out all the stops and working hard to get you more traffic and more money. As the largest, #1 site on the web for live Video Chat, we realize how important it is to attract large amounts of new traffic! More users mean more money for you, and we are constantly making changes and improvements to help bring in new Guests. This is why we are changing commission rates to 30% for Hosts, and keeping commission rates at 35% for Veteran and Hall of Fame Hosts. We're using resources available from the change in commission to draw more traffic to you! Therefore, the commission change should not affect your earnings, in fact, you can actually expect to see your earnings increase!

We're already hard at work bringing you more users. We've made a joint venture with two of the largest adult sites on the net. One campaign is already under way, and directing tons of new traffic to ImLive. The second campaign, with the industry's largest adult site, and one of the top 20 largest sites on the entire WWW, is kicking off tomorrow! So get ready for the wave of new visitors to your chat room - and this is just one of the moves we're making to get you more traffic!

We'll also be launching an amazing Guest Campaign Tuesday! This Campaign encourages Guests to purchase more Credit, and when they do, we're rewarding them with lots of FREE Credit Bonuses! That means ImLive is giving Guests tons of FREE Credit to spend on you! Just get online to benefit from this great Campaign, because these Guests will have more Credit, and they'll be wanting to Video Chat even longer!

We know a reduction in commission might not sound positive, but we want to reassure you that resources made available by this change will be invested in bringing more traffic to ImLive. We always keep our promises to you, and this time is no exception! You'll see the benefits from this change right away with increases in traffic to ImLive. We want to thank you for your cooperation, and for working with us to keep ImLive the #1 Live Video Chat site on the net.

Iron Fist · 03-26-2008, 07:40 PM

Shhh.. now everyone be quiet and this will all go away mmmkay?

Lets go back to business as usual please...

RadiantX · 03-26-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by minniesoporno

As the largest, #1 site on the web for live Video Chat, we realize how important it is to attract large amounts of new traffic! More users mean more money for you, and we are constantly making changes and improvements to help bring in new Guests. This is why we are changing commission rates to 30% for Hosts, and keeping commission rates at 35% for Veteran and Hall of Fame Hosts. We're using resources available from the change in commission to draw more traffic to you! Therefore, the commission change should not affect your earnings, in fact, you can actually expect to see your earnings increase!

We're already hard at work bringing you more users. We've made a joint venture with two of the largest adult sites on the net. One campaign is already under way, and directing tons of new traffic to ImLive. The second campaign, with the industry's largest adult site, and one of the top 20 largest sites on the entire WWW, is kicking off tomorrow! So get ready for the wave of new visitors to your chat room - and this is just one of the moves we're making to get you more traffic!

We'll also be launching an amazing Guest Campaign Tuesday! This Campaign encourages Guests to purchase more Credit, and when they do, we're rewarding them with lots of FREE Credit Bonuses! That means ImLive is giving Guests tons of FREE Credit to spend on you! Just get online to benefit from this great Campaign, because these Guests will have more Credit, and they'll be wanting to Video Chat even longer!

We know a reduction in commission might not sound positive, but we want to reassure you that resources made available by this change will be invested in bringing more traffic to ImLive. We always keep our promises to you, and this time is no exception! You'll see the benefits from this change right away with increases in traffic to ImLive. We want to thank you for your cooperation, and for working with us to keep ImLive the #1 Live Video Chat site on the net.

Ummm minnie...that sales pitch sounds like you cut/pasted it from the chathost section of ImLive - which probably means it was aimed at chathosts not affiliate webmasters. :: scratches head ::

Also, I'm pretty sure iFriends v2 is the #1 live video chat site on the net, they've been around a lot longer, have more chathosts, and their affiliate program converts 100x better.

I've been known to make mistakes though, so if you can back up your claim that ImLive is the #1 live video chat site on the web, I'm all ears.

Kevsh · 03-26-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

Really??? Your kidding me... Wow.. Thanks for that brilliant insite of yours.. From someone advertising web cam sites with affiliate links in your sig...

Not sure what you're implying - I provide a list of sponsors with no preference given to any.

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Oh.. And you wanna provide me with a list of this "lot of webmasters clearly doing very well with them?".. That's a bogus statement that they always pull out whenever there's a bunch of WMs bitching about ratios.

Pussycash has for years been one of the biggest and most successful webcam programs. They didn't get that way by not converting or retaining - or having so many tech issues that customers stay away.

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The "WMs" doing well could/would be the ones that upsell from inside members areas or those that have traffic that is specifically looking for webcams

Now THAT is brilliant insight. Of course, members area-provided visitors or those that can from targeted sites are going to do better. You're not making any point with that observation.

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Regardless, anyone that thinks that the site being 500 or having insane slow loading pages, or having cam hosts that the surfer can't connect to.. or get dropped from (a consistent problem with imlive) won't have a real negative impact on conversions and long term revshare, clearly doesn't have a clue.

Obviously tech issues don't help. Over the years Imlive has had a few, sure. But I'm confident they are working on it and will get things corrected. iFriends, as one person pointed out, has had more errors than any webcam site I've seen. One in particular, a very simple one it would seem, has not been fixed in at least 5 months even after I've contacted them about it.

But I still promote them and do well. I've also seen typical numbers with Imlive during this technical issue. So it would be fair, I think, to suggest that possibly you're poor conversions aren't a result of tech issues. Sales also fluctuate for everyone. So is it not possible there are other factors?

Oh and I should note that most of your replies in this thread are more than a little bitter and sarcastic. May I suggest chilling out a bit? Perhaps that's part of the reason you've made some of your assumptions? Nothing makes a webmaster more pissed than not making as much money as they hope. If your traffic has converted with Imlive then I'm sure it will continue to do so.

Tempest · 03-26-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RadiantX

.... have more chathosts .....

Sorry, but I just don't think that's true anymore.. In fact, my numbers indicate it's a lot less but they "fake" it by allowing chathosts to have a lot of names on their system unlike the other ones. Their policy has had other detrimental effects which have included driving away a lot of great chat hosts in 2 of the niches I promote so that it's now filled with hosts that don't fit the niche and have 10+ profiles.. All of that just ends up turning off the people with the credit cards.

As far as the ratios.... I went to ImLive because the iFriends ratios were declining (when they changed their system to be more complicated and with the fanclub stuff, it had a negative impact on revenue and conversions)... iFriends still makes me slightly more money but it's pretty close these days.

Tempest · 03-26-2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by minniesoporno

.... We've made a joint venture with two of the largest adult sites on the net. One campaign is already under way, and directing tons of new traffic to ImLive. The second campaign, with the industry's largest adult site, and one of the top 20 largest sites on the entire WWW, is kicking off tomorrow!

I wonder which sites those are... Could be interesting given we know tube sites are ranked extremely high by Alexa...

Tempest · 03-26-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh

Not sure what you're implying - I provide a list of sponsors with no preference given to any.

I'm "implying" you've got your tongue stuck so far up their ass you're not objective... Let me give you a clue.. NOWHERE did I say my ratios were terrible or not equivalent to other cam sites I promote.. You just ASSumed it and so started talking out your ass..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh

Pussycash has for years been one of the biggest and most successful webcam programs

For years they've been "one of" the biggest??? Are you a newbie or something?? They need to give you a job being a spokesman for them...

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Originally Posted by Kevsh

Oh and I should note that most of your replies in this thread are more than a little bitter and sarcastic. May I suggest chilling out a bit?

I'm "bitter" because day after day I see these errors reported in my system and they don't give a fuck because they don't do shit.. or at least they never do "enough"... I'm serious.. ok.. maybe not "every" day.. but definately on a weekly basis... I don't suffer fools very well and that includes ANY program that has a stick up their ass...

And yes.. I'm well aware about iFriends issues as well.. But this was a thread about ImLive...

vending_machine · 03-27-2008, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

Promo material... i.e. FHGs.. and make it so we can grab some of the videos to chop up for promotions as well...

And slap the hosts around so they put the right freakin ages in their profiles and don't advertises themselves as "teen" when they're not etc. etc. etc.

Hit me up when you have a moment please.. 335769428

adamneve · 03-27-2008, 06:09 AM

As was discussed earlier, PussyCash is aware that ImLive was experiencing local service outages. If you or any other PussyCash webmaster is still experiencing ImLive service interruptions, please let us know IMMEDIATELY so we can take care of the problem. It's in both of our best interests to have ImLive operating fully optimized, so we'd appreciate the heads up on any errors you may come across.
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adamneve · 03-27-2008, 06:11 AM

Tempest please hit me up and let me help you get that problem solved

Tempest · 03-27-2008, 04:35 PM

03-25-2008, 02:07 PM	#2
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	everyone knows that any and all ratio problems are because of free porn and shaving. Last edited by Pleasurepays; 03-25-2008 at 02:09 PM..

03-25-2008, 02:18 PM	#3
vending_machine Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,062	Tempest - have you promoted Moneytree/Streamate? __________________

03-25-2008, 02:24 PM	#4
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03-25-2008, 02:53 PM	#7
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03-26-2008, 02:24 AM	#9
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03-25-2008, 01:49 PM	#1
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	ImLive ratios are shit?? Just maybe this is why..... These errors occur on multiple servers of mine so it's not on my end... I monitor 2 other cam sites and of the 3, imlive consistently (I've been tracking this stuff for over a year now) has connectivity problems... of course.. you only have to surf the site for awhile to see the same damn thing... Pussycash has been notified on several occasions about this and they do squat to fix it... Even their hosts comment on the crappy technical side of things... Why am I bringing this up? 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03-26-2008, 03:19 AM	#11
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	I dropped them years ago. Thought everyone else did too...

03-26-2008, 03:42 AM	#12
timoxxl2 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 997	try CupidoCash.com ;-)

03-26-2008, 06:08 AM	#13
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	If you're not converting with PussyCash, it's not due to technical issues. There are a LOT of webmasters clearly doing very well with them. So while it's noble you want to help them with their technical problems, blaming that for your poor conversions is a cop-out, and weak. - and typical of so many webmasters Try looking on your side of things first.

03-26-2008, 06:30 PM	#17
minniesoporno Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 1,150	Well now imlive are paying the host 30% so the ratios might be going down even more.

03-26-2008, 06:42 PM	#18
RadiantX Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: FL Posts: 550	Wow, they were paying 35% a couple years ago. I cant believe any hosts stay with them when iFriendsv2 pays their hosts 50% regardless, and 100% if they refer the customer to the platform. My iFriends clickcash account converts 100x better too. :: shrugs ::

03-26-2008, 07:31 PM	#19
minniesoporno Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 1,150	ImLive is pulling out all the stops and working hard to get you more traffic and more money. As the largest, #1 site on the web for live Video Chat, we realize how important it is to attract large amounts of new traffic! More users mean more money for you, and we are constantly making changes and improvements to help bring in new Guests. This is why we are changing commission rates to 30% for Hosts, and keeping commission rates at 35% for Veteran and Hall of Fame Hosts. We're using resources available from the change in commission to draw more traffic to you! Therefore, the commission change should not affect your earnings, in fact, you can actually expect to see your earnings increase! We're already hard at work bringing you more users. We've made a joint venture with two of the largest adult sites on the net. One campaign is already under way, and directing tons of new traffic to ImLive. The second campaign, with the industry's largest adult site, and one of the top 20 largest sites on the entire WWW, is kicking off tomorrow! So get ready for the wave of new visitors to your chat room - and this is just one of the moves we're making to get you more traffic! We'll also be launching an amazing Guest Campaign Tuesday! This Campaign encourages Guests to purchase more Credit, and when they do, we're rewarding them with lots of FREE Credit Bonuses! That means ImLive is giving Guests tons of FREE Credit to spend on you! Just get online to benefit from this great Campaign, because these Guests will have more Credit, and they'll be wanting to Video Chat even longer! We know a reduction in commission might not sound positive, but we want to reassure you that resources made available by this change will be invested in bringing more traffic to ImLive. We always keep our promises to you, and this time is no exception! You'll see the benefits from this change right away with increases in traffic to ImLive. We want to thank you for your cooperation, and for working with us to keep ImLive the #1 Live Video Chat site on the net.

03-26-2008, 07:40 PM	#20
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Shhh.. now everyone be quiet and this will all go away mmmkay? Lets go back to business as usual please... __________________ i like waffles

03-27-2008, 06:09 AM	#27
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03-27-2008, 06:11 AM	#28
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03-27-2008, 04:35 PM	#29
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	oh oh.. more "local service outages"... Between 2008-03-27 02:42:15 and 2008-03-27 10:13:15 1206610935\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206612195\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206612247\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206612310\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206612375\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206612434\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206612496\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206612555\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206612616\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206612665\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206612966\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206613026\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206613325\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206613385\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206613986\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206614286\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206628869\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206628935\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206628985\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206629056\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206629116\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206629174\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206629235\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206637386\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500) 1206637995\|global\|chkcamsql.cgi\|Logging into imlive returned (500)