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Old 03-24-2008, 05:03 PM   #1
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XBIZ breaking news - Impulse Media (Soul Cash) wins its CAN-SPAM case

This just in from Seattle -- Impulse Media, better known to most as Soul Cash, has triumphed in its CAN-SPAM case. The jury returned its unanimous verdict earlier this afternoon. Read the (very brief) article about this development on XBIZ here.

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Old 03-24-2008, 05:11 PM   #2
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Does this mean they will finally pay their affiliates?
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Old 03-24-2008, 05:15 PM   #3
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does that mean their affiliate backend will start working again?

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does that mean their affiliate backend will start working again?

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I give serious props to Seth for having the where with all to go the distance and tackle this head on. And of course, Rob and Spencers legal skills. It takes a certain type to go toe to toe on cases like this and the end result is that we will all benefit from their work.

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wow..talk about a david vs. goliath case. Impulse Media was the ONLY company to fight the government while the other companies settled.This case will set a HUGE precedent in the industry and will be felt for years to come.Godspeed Seth!
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Sweet! Nice work for SixNine and his legal team!
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Old 03-24-2008, 06:00 PM   #9
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and as usual real business falls down while stupid threads stay bumped up..see you all at the top!
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Are you REALLY that much of a moron?

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does that mean their affiliate backend will start working again?

Database error: Invalid SQL: Select ppc.prg_code, ppc.prg_name, ppc.prg_type, ppc.payout_type, ppc.payout_rate, ppc.payout_rate2, ppc.payout_rate3, ppc.rewards_payout, ppc.rewards_payout2, ppc.offer_whale, ppc.whale_min, ppc.whale_payout, count(prgs.st_code) as site_restricted from ps_program_config ppc left join program_sites prgs on (ppc.prg_code = prgs.prg_code) where prg_on_off = '1' group by prg_code order by prg_name
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Typical negro behavior....

Always fighting with the Government.

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Good for Seth and congrats to Rob Apgood for the win.

This is a great day for our industry!
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Old 03-25-2008, 12:33 AM   #15
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This case with the FTC has been going on for 4 years and we finally won! In the process it's ruined SoulCash beyond repair because 4 Webmasters felt like abusing the program.

I had to make the decision to stand up and fight, or lay down and take it in the ass. Unfortuneatly for the DOJ they didn't realize that I see it as a problem with the way the US Government thinks they can walk in to our industry and feed us a shit sandwich and expect us to eat it.

To SoulCash webmasters... I used to be one of the golden boys (if a brotha can do that) of the adult industry. The last couple of years I've been laying low doing what I had to do to survive and fight. I was guilty of sticking my head in the sand at times instead of communicating what's been going on. There's mud on my name but I'll do whatever I can to make shit right. I had to make a decision to kill the program and pursue this case. Along the way payouts have been missed and my webmasters are owed money. Most have had patience and understanding, while others flamed me. Fighting the FTC is a decision I made, and I'll try and get everybody owed money paid pronto.

If you're pissed off about not being paid... gain solice in the fact that the million dollar business I built from scratch is gone. All I hope is it does some other companys some good.

In the mean time the result of this case will allow adult programs to operate in the US with a little more comfort than before. Major props to Carpe Law, Rob Apgood, and Spencer (ARE YOU KHIIDING ME?) Freeman for bringing the ruckus to the FTC and the DOJ!

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This case with the FTC has been going on for 4 years and we finally won! In the process it's ruined SoulCash beyond repair because 4 Webmasters felt like abusing the program.

I had to make the decision to stand up and fight, or lay down and take it in the ass. Unfortuneatly for the DOJ they didn't realize that I see it as a problem with the way the US Government thinks they can walk in to our industry and feed us a shit sandwich and expect us to eat it.

To SoulCash webmasters... I used to be one of the golden boys (if a brotha can do that) of the adult industry. The last couple of years I've been laying low doing what I had to do to survive and fight. I was guilty of sticking my head in the sand at times instead of communicating what's been going on. There's mud on my name but I'll do whatever I can to make shit right. I had to make a decision to kill the program and pursue this case. Along the way payouts have been missed and my webmasters are owed money. Most have had patience and understanding, while others flamed me. Fighting the FTC is a decision I made, and I'll try and get everybody owed money paid pronto.

If you're pissed off about not being paid... gain solice in the fact that the million dollar business I built from scratch is gone. All I hope is it does some other companys some good.

In the mean time the result of this case will allow adult programs to operate in the US with a little more comfort than before. Major props to Carpe Law, Rob Apgood, and Spencer (ARE YOU KHIIDING ME?) Freeman for bringing the ruckus to the FTC and the DOJ!

Peace & Hair Grease,

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Dude you stood up to them when everyone else accused laid down like a puppy and took the beating!

It's really sad that it has cost you a fortune, your business, and your reputation, but I think all of that will be back again soon!

Your reputation is solid and you have stood up to the government and made a solid case for the rest of our industry that should say a lot for your reputation


Congrats on the case, who else was indicted in this case with you? and did they all wuss out and take it up the ass from the government?
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this should be at the top Bump for win against the DOJ
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this should be at the top Bump for win against the DOJ
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This case with the FTC has been going on for 4 years and we finally won! In the process it's ruined SoulCash beyond repair because 4 Webmasters felt like abusing the program.

I had to make the decision to stand up and fight, or lay down and take it in the ass. Unfortuneatly for the DOJ they didn't realize that I see it as a problem with the way the US Government thinks they can walk in to our industry and feed us a shit sandwich and expect us to eat it.

To SoulCash webmasters... I used to be one of the golden boys (if a brotha can do that) of the adult industry. The last couple of years I've been laying low doing what I had to do to survive and fight. I was guilty of sticking my head in the sand at times instead of communicating what's been going on. There's mud on my name but I'll do whatever I can to make shit right. I had to make a decision to kill the program and pursue this case. Along the way payouts have been missed and my webmasters are owed money. Most have had patience and understanding, while others flamed me. Fighting the FTC is a decision I made, and I'll try and get everybody owed money paid pronto.

If you're pissed off about not being paid... gain solice in the fact that the million dollar business I built from scratch is gone. All I hope is it does some other companys some good.

In the mean time the result of this case will allow adult programs to operate in the US with a little more comfort than before. Major props to Carpe Law, Rob Apgood, and Spencer (ARE YOU KHIIDING ME?) Freeman for bringing the ruckus to the FTC and the DOJ!

Peace & Hair Grease,

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Great news man, really. Wow. It takes an impressive set of balls to fight that fight.
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just read in a NY newspaper what cyberheat agreed to in their settlement:




Earlier this month Cyberheat settled a similar case with the FTC. The porn marketer agree to pay $413,000 and abide by some pretty tight restrictions on its affiliate marketing program including to:

*Contractually require its affiliates to identify any subaffiliates they intend to use.

*Provide each affiliate a copy of the FTC’s order.

*Get a written agreement from each affiliate to comply with the order and the Can Spam Act.

*Contractually require each affiliate that intends to use e-mail marketing to provide Cyberheat the e-mail address from which the campaign will be sent, the subject line, the dates the e-mail will be sent, the e-mail addresses to which the e-mail will be sent, and a certification regarding how the addresses were gathered, all at least seven days before the campaign.

*Review each affiliate’s e-mail campaign for compliance with the Can Spam Act at least three days before the campaign and certify in writing it has done so.

*Require each consumer who signs up for Cyberheat’s services to indicate how they heard of the company. If they heard of it through e-mail, Cyberheat has agreed to monitor the affiliate that sent the e-mail for compliance with Can Spam.

The Cyberheat case was seen by experts as an example of the FTC being increasingly skeptical of marketers claiming they aren’t aware of affiliate spamming.
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This case with the FTC has been going on for 4 years and we finally won! In the process it's ruined SoulCash beyond repair because 4 Webmasters felt like abusing the program.

I had to make the decision to stand up and fight, or lay down and take it in the ass. Unfortuneatly for the DOJ they didn't realize that I see it as a problem with the way the US Government thinks they can walk in to our industry and feed us a shit sandwich and expect us to eat it.

To SoulCash webmasters... I used to be one of the golden boys (if a brotha can do that) of the adult industry. The last couple of years I've been laying low doing what I had to do to survive and fight. I was guilty of sticking my head in the sand at times instead of communicating what's been going on. There's mud on my name but I'll do whatever I can to make shit right. I had to make a decision to kill the program and pursue this case. Along the way payouts have been missed and my webmasters are owed money. Most have had patience and understanding, while others flamed me. Fighting the FTC is a decision I made, and I'll try and get everybody owed money paid pronto.

If you're pissed off about not being paid... gain solice in the fact that the million dollar business I built from scratch is gone. All I hope is it does some other companys some good.

In the mean time the result of this case will allow adult programs to operate in the US with a little more comfort than before. Major props to Carpe Law, Rob Apgood, and Spencer (ARE YOU KHIIDING ME?) Freeman for bringing the ruckus to the FTC and the DOJ!

Peace & Hair Grease,

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I never knew this was happening....

Congrats! I hope you can build up again
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I never knew this was happening....

Congrats! I hope you can build up again
I hope he does too seth puts out a good product that makes good sales!
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This deserves to stay at the top of the page...many, many congrats Seth
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Are you still playing custodian of records for your clients?
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This case with the FTC has been going on for 4 years and we finally won! In the process it's ruined SoulCash beyond repair because 4 Webmasters felt like abusing the program.

I had to make the decision to stand up and fight, or lay down and take it in the ass. Unfortuneatly for the DOJ they didn't realize that I see it as a problem with the way the US Government thinks they can walk in to our industry and feed us a shit sandwich and expect us to eat it.

To SoulCash webmasters... I used to be one of the golden boys (if a brotha can do that) of the adult industry. The last couple of years I've been laying low doing what I had to do to survive and fight. I was guilty of sticking my head in the sand at times instead of communicating what's been going on. There's mud on my name but I'll do whatever I can to make shit right. I had to make a decision to kill the program and pursue this case. Along the way payouts have been missed and my webmasters are owed money. Most have had patience and understanding, while others flamed me. Fighting the FTC is a decision I made, and I'll try and get everybody owed money paid pronto.

If you're pissed off about not being paid... gain solice in the fact that the million dollar business I built from scratch is gone. All I hope is it does some other companys some good.

In the mean time the result of this case will allow adult programs to operate in the US with a little more comfort than before. Major props to Carpe Law, Rob Apgood, and Spencer (ARE YOU KHIIDING ME?) Freeman for bringing the ruckus to the FTC and the DOJ!

Peace & Hair Grease,

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I've always respected you man. Way to go.
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This case with the FTC has been going on for 4 years and we finally won! In the process it's ruined SoulCash beyond repair because 4 Webmasters felt like abusing the program.

I had to make the decision to stand up and fight, or lay down and take it in the ass. Unfortuneatly for the DOJ they didn't realize that I see it as a problem with the way the US Government thinks they can walk in to our industry and feed us a shit sandwich and expect us to eat it.

To SoulCash webmasters... I used to be one of the golden boys (if a brotha can do that) of the adult industry. The last couple of years I've been laying low doing what I had to do to survive and fight. I was guilty of sticking my head in the sand at times instead of communicating what's been going on. There's mud on my name but I'll do whatever I can to make shit right. I had to make a decision to kill the program and pursue this case. Along the way payouts have been missed and my webmasters are owed money. Most have had patience and understanding, while others flamed me. Fighting the FTC is a decision I made, and I'll try and get everybody owed money paid pronto.

If you're pissed off about not being paid... gain solice in the fact that the million dollar business I built from scratch is gone. All I hope is it does some other companys some good.

In the mean time the result of this case will allow adult programs to operate in the US with a little more comfort than before. Major props to Carpe Law, Rob Apgood, and Spencer (ARE YOU KHIIDING ME?) Freeman for bringing the ruckus to the FTC and the DOJ!

Peace & Hair Grease,

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Yo Big Dog, you stood up when it mattered. I'll do business with you any day of the week.
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I whole heartedly agree! You really stuck your neck out on the line to tell the DOJ to "suck a dick"
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Congrats Seth! Does this mean you'll be doing Internext FL?
or better yet.. PHX FOrum?
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Old 03-25-2008, 06:53 PM   #34
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Congrats Seth!! I was wondering when you guys were going to bring this to a close! We've missed you!!

Does this mean I still get to keep all my affiliates? ;) Love you!
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Old 03-25-2008, 10:25 PM   #36
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Congrats man. Had no idea this was going down. I was wondering what happened to soul cash. It was a good program. Wish you all the best.
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Old 03-25-2008, 10:40 PM   #37
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This case with the FTC has been going on for 4 years and we finally won! In the process it's ruined SoulCash beyond repair because 4 Webmasters felt like abusing the program.

I had to make the decision to stand up and fight, or lay down and take it in the ass. Unfortuneatly for the DOJ they didn't realize that I see it as a problem with the way the US Government thinks they can walk in to our industry and feed us a shit sandwich and expect us to eat it.

To SoulCash webmasters... I used to be one of the golden boys (if a brotha can do that) of the adult industry. The last couple of years I've been laying low doing what I had to do to survive and fight. I was guilty of sticking my head in the sand at times instead of communicating what's been going on. There's mud on my name but I'll do whatever I can to make shit right. I had to make a decision to kill the program and pursue this case. Along the way payouts have been missed and my webmasters are owed money. Most have had patience and understanding, while others flamed me. Fighting the FTC is a decision I made, and I'll try and get everybody owed money paid pronto.

If you're pissed off about not being paid... gain solice in the fact that the million dollar business I built from scratch is gone. All I hope is it does some other companys some good.

In the mean time the result of this case will allow adult programs to operate in the US with a little more comfort than before. Major props to Carpe Law, Rob Apgood, and Spencer (ARE YOU KHIIDING ME?) Freeman for bringing the ruckus to the FTC and the DOJ!

Peace & Hair Grease,

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A big congrats dude!
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Old 03-25-2008, 11:19 PM   #38
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nice one! congrats.
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back to the top like this deserves
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Old 03-26-2008, 06:37 AM   #40
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TTT for SixNine, and for not backing down.
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TTT for SixNine, and for not backing down.
yeah he did a big thing for affiliate programs by standing up to them!
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Old 03-26-2008, 09:02 AM   #42
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I mean, seriously, man!
it was a joke, lighten up
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Old 03-26-2008, 10:28 AM   #43
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Right on for all the replies. Soul Cash is pretty much screwed. The trial really crushed me. Once I get over this hump I think my future spot in the biz is working with others to develop kick ass products and sites.

Time will tell,

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Right on for all the replies. Soul Cash is pretty much screwed. The trial really crushed me. Once I get over this hump I think my future spot in the biz is working with others to develop kick ass products and sites.

Time will tell,

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You did it before, and you'll do it again. You could have just been done with it and left. You are still here, that counts for a whole fucking lot.

Seriously homeboy, we've known each other for a long time, the games changed a little bit, but I KNOW you will come back stronger than ever.

I got faith in you!
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Old 03-26-2008, 04:37 PM   #46
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Soul Cash is pretty much screwed.
Why? I'm sure you could get some people to send you good will traffic etc... Or is it a matter of just not having the heart for it... Maybe it would be cathartic to "rise from the ashes"...

Either way.. congrats on the win...
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Old 03-26-2008, 05:02 PM   #47
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Old 03-27-2008, 10:56 AM   #48
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Right on for all the replies. Soul Cash is pretty much screwed. The trial really crushed me. Once I get over this hump I think my future spot in the biz is working with others to develop kick ass products and sites.

Time will tell,

SixNine
man, you fought for our industry and won, whatever you need in the blog area t get soulcash back on top let me know, I will give you a hefty discount, if not free

you fought the good fight, you deserve rewards
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:31 PM   #49
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Great news like this deserves the top & for all the sacrifice - the participants should enjoy 'a day in the sun:-)

Congratulations & much RESPECT!

I admire anyone who will stand up for what they believe - and take it to the wire, no matter the consequences. I know that doesn't put bread on the table, so hopefully you will be back in action soon.
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