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sortie · 04-18-2009, 08:41 AM

50 arrogant theives

escoman · 04-18-2009, 09:08 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intention_(criminal)

sortie · 04-18-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by escoman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intention_(criminal)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complicit

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An individual is complicit in a crime if he is aware of its occurrence, has the ability to report the crime, but fails to do so. As such the individual effectively allows criminals to carry out a crime despite easily being able to stop them, either directly or by contacting the authorities, thus making him a de-facto accessory to the crime rather than an innocent bystander.

acctman · 04-18-2009, 10:31 AM

i dont see why most of your guys are being dickheads and tools to the guy... he said isohunt would remove it and just suggested that you show some respect when contacting them. Like he said they're not going around stealing your content (porn site members are doing) or uploading it. its just a sprider or other users stealing the content. so if you're going to be mad at anyone be mad at your users and webmaster for not protecting your content a little better.

acctman · 04-18-2009, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

I was stating my personal opinion, not law, and that is honestly how I feel...not saying I haven't bought stolen merchandise when I was younger, but I accepted the fact that i was just as guilty as the person who stole it, anyone that thinks in a different way has a lot of growing up to do

sometimes instead of looking to the law to see if what we are doing is right or wrong, we should look inside our conscience

so what's the difference between a torrent and google? the both serve the same purpose they dont host the items directly just links/seeds to files, sites, etc. should i be mad at google is some douche rips my site and takes all my video content then creates a downloadable site with my content on it? Google just made it easier to find my content for free. Now apply that to a torrent, same exact situation all those files are on john does computer at home and not on the torrent sites it self. they just provide links/seeds to other peoples home computers to download files.

you can go at this all day, but it comes down to it, that you really should me more pissed at the person stealing the content and rather than a search engine in which a torrent is, just like google is.

the.drunk · 04-18-2009, 10:43 AM

thread delivers

seeandsee · 04-18-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

can someone please seed American Cannonballs please

notime · 04-18-2009, 01:08 PM

P-bear seems kind of active on there

DWB · 04-18-2009, 05:15 PM

Thanks for the info.

BlackCrayon · 04-18-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by infowolfe

In our ideal world, we'd be leveraging new technologies for promotion and distribution of content, no matter who the source is. Say release a small 'teaser' via Bittorrent with an option to 'buy' via a private/authenticated Bittorrent tracker or direct download. Which would cut down on the costs of releasing things like full-length motion pictures, music cds, etc, since the customer would be sharing the load, instead of the content producers having to make a massive investment in infrastructure.

If you'd like to look at some of the things we've done as a company to help the open source world (which has almost nothing to do with you guys), we've helped 2 years in a row now with Gentoo Linux distribution's Bittorrent releases of new livecds as "super seeds." We also picked up "super seeding" of the Belenix releases.

For those of you who say that we've stolen your content and are profiting from it, perhaps you should see my earlier post about searching google with filetype:torrent, since google's ads are shown with their search results, they're obviously just as "evil" as we are, and yet it's not them that's here posting telling you guys the easiest way to get shit done with torrent sites, it's me. In that same post, you should read their DMCA takedown procedure, I guarantee it's a bigger pain in the ass.

If you doubt what I've got to say about taking things down in a reasonable timeframe, ask Eric at removeyourcontent.com how long it took me to respond to his emails yesterday. I do have a new portal in the works for rights-holders, and if people from here are interested, I'll let you guys be some of the first to sign up (I'd actually like to give Eric at removeyourcontent.com first crack at it, even though i haven't told him yet).

I wear 2 hats, copyright agent and sysadmin... and i'm planning on leveraging the sysadmin portion to make the copyright agent portion as easy as possible, since I'd rather spend my time making my infrastructure better than having to deal with copyright shit, since it's a drag for me and a drag for you.

Promoting a Creative Commons licensed band called ALTered Zero
CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corp) using Bittorrent to distribute DRM-free content created by them
Misc discussion on legit uses for P2P networking (Bittorrent focused) w/ links to "Steal this film" and others
More independent music being released via Bittorrent
Trent Reznor talking about a private music Bittorrent site that he released his content on being shut down. (oink.me.uk)
Comments on Radiohead's "In Rainbows" and Canadian musicians telling the music lobby not to use their names in persecuting their fans
Belinix OpenSolaris distribution using isohunt for distribution of their DVDs
Discussion on filtering torrents on behalf of Copyright holders

isohunt and any other torrent site would not be profitable if not for stolen content. End of story.

SmokeyTheBear · 04-18-2009, 07:39 PM

fyi content owners do not need to be polite, they either submit a proper dmca or the dont. They can be as rude as they want , you are obligated to follow thru a dmca complaint or you are liable its as simple as that. Now if you are talking about people not following the proper dmca process, yes it would def be a good idea to be polite

infowolfe · 04-18-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

fyi content owners do not need to be polite, they either submit a proper dmca or the dont. They can be as rude as they want , you are obligated to follow thru a dmca complaint or you are liable its as simple as that. Now if you are talking about people not following the proper dmca process, yes it would def be a good idea to be polite

My main point is that you're more likely to get people to act on good faith if you fail to comply with 17 USC 512 (the law lobbied for by the MPAA for content protection purposes) if you're polite about it. If you're an asshole about things, and there's anything that can be nitpicked, it probably will be. With us anyway, to cover our own asses (since we're a Canadian company), we're voluntarily complying with the DMCA, as there isn't a comparable Canadian law. Anyway, call us thieves if you want, it just shows that you're completely ignorant of the situation.

BFT3K · 04-18-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

I'm masturbating.

Barefootsies · 04-18-2009, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan

If you're running a site that expects DMCAs then shouldn't you have a thicker skin?

devine · 04-18-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuckin Bill

Said the man with the tube script in his Sig.

you aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer, huh?

devine · 04-18-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by infowolfe

actually, they do... and they're much more of a pain in the ass than i am

http://www.google.com/dmca.html

they require you to send them postal mail ;-)

and you'd also expect to see your dmca notice on chillingeffects.org

speaking of google, try something along these lines if you'd like to find out what sites have torrents of your content: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=filetype%3Atorrent+debbie+does+dall as

the important portion of that search query is "filetype:torrent" if you've got content out there that google can index, that type of search will turn it up for you...

i hope you guys realise, that even though I work for isohunt and the boss is anti-porn, i'm not a bastard, i'm not trying to steal your shit, hell, i don't even watch porn... i'm honestly on your side in this, and i think that if you go about your business in a professional manner, you can get a lot done as far as reform's concerned... shit, it was the porn industry that made the betamax obsolete... porn that made dvds commonplace and the internet as big as it is today...

so please, don't see me as the enemy, i'm personally trying to help you guys out.

you forgot a little tiny bit of information: Google is a search engine that strives to spider as much content as possible, and most of it is legal. You strive to profit on 99% illegal content, and your only interest is to display stolen content and maybe a couple linux distros to make up the whole thing. When you blabbled about your "antiporn" stand and a simpel search shows that most of your site is porn, then you lost the little credibility you had (if any).

and btw, I asked Google by EMAIL to remove content and they did that in a day or two, didn't even have to send a DMCA, just a doc showing the stuff was ours and nobody else's had rights to use that. Get your facts straight

SmokeyTheBear · 04-18-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by infowolfe

My main point is that you're more likely to get people to act on good faith if you're polite about it. If you're an asshole about things, and there's anything that can be nitpicked, it probably will be.

i think this is true in almost every aspect of life. I think some people took offense to the wording, it was a bit long winded and sounded kind of gloating. you could have made it simpler.

Send us a proper dmca or just be polite and to the point , you are wasting your time making threats, flying off the handle, being rude or pretending to speak legalese.

That was pretty short and to the point

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Originally Posted by infowolfe

Anyway, call us thieves if you want, it just shows that you're completely ignorant of the situation.

wtf ? i don't recall even hinting in that direction, i have never even seen isohunt ( although the name kind of implies something anyways ;) ) , thats not a slam either , i have never seen twitter to be honest.

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