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PainThing · 04-08-2008, 07:13 AM

Epassporte.com Reverses Payment Transfer!

I was informed by Epassporte.com today after reviewing my account that they reversed charges because the member stated that there was an erroneous payment made during transfer of funds. Epassporte has drained my account of existing funds and left it at as negative balance.

I cannot for the life of me believe Epass would do this!

Epassporte never contacted me in regards... The transferring member emailed Epassporte saying they had made an erroneous transfer and were reissued their funds that they made as repayment (stated in original message).

So if you ever receive a payment from Epassporte be aware that the payment can be reversed for any reason.

Until Epassporte rectifies this situation and refunds my accounts,
I consider

Epassporte NOT safe for doing any business transactions!

Quote:

Dear XX XXXXXXXXX,

This email is to inform you of a transfer of $595.00 to your account from ePassporte card member cgabon75 (aka Prime Outsourcing).

The following message is from card member cgabon75:
staff leasing payment refund

The Duck · 04-08-2008, 07:13 AM

One more of these...

megatgpdotnet · 04-08-2008, 07:17 AM

Hm... more and more shit popping up. Looks like my 30m call to a support was a funny story compared to theft supporting like this.

Tjeezers · 04-08-2008, 07:18 AM

then you go Payoneer
They have a nice reputation already, no fucking around.

PainThing · 04-08-2008, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by megatgpdotnet

Hm... more and more shit popping up. Looks like my 30m call to a support was a funny story compared to theft supporting like this.

Shit like this is UN FUCKING BELIEVEABLE!

This Is Blatant Fraud And Epassporte Supports It!

Wagerboy · 04-08-2008, 07:39 AM

I too have been having a really hard time with them. Not so much on thier side, but my bank, Chase, flat out hates them. If I try to load money, Chase declines it. It has happened to me 3 times in the last week. Apparently around the banking biz, they are strictly for illegal internet gaming only. I explained that wasnt the case and had to fax in my tax id # showing internet media as the biz role. They lifted it for 7 days as a "favor" because I'm a "good customer" Its getting hard to pay online these days!

Jens Van Assterdam · 04-08-2008, 07:43 AM

They "only" refunded the amount to the sender or did they do anything else like shut down your account?!

Shaze · 04-08-2008, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wagerboy

I too have been having a really hard time with them. Not so much on thier side, but my bank, Chase, flat out hates them. If I try to load money, Chase declines it. It has happened to me 3 times in the last week. Apparently around the banking biz, they are strictly for illegal internet gaming only. I explained that wasnt the case and had to fax in my tax id # showing internet media as the biz role. They lifted it for 7 days as a "favor" because I'm a "good customer" Its getting hard to pay online these days!

i have Chase..i never had problems transfering money from ePassporte into my bank account...are you doing it the other way around?

PainThing · 04-08-2008, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete Rodriguez

They "only" refunded the amount to the sender or did they do anything else like shut down your account?!

no they reversed the transfer... my account is still open.. I am not the one who committed fraud.... the other party did.

DateDoc · 04-08-2008, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PainThing

no they reversed the transfer... my account is still open.. I am not the one who committed fraud.... the other party did.

So you're saying Prime OutSourcing committed fraud?

Michael O · 04-08-2008, 08:13 AM

I am going to post once about this and thats all.
Like I told you this is being looked into and I promised you an answer after 1pm ET.
If we made a mistake we will correct it, since you are stating we support fraud I will be more than happy to assist you in getting your account closed and the funds in your account send to you when this have been resolved, lets discuss that on ICQ when I get back to you as promised.

Michael

Phoenix · 04-08-2008, 08:19 AM

epass is good...sign of a good company is when things go wrong they take steps to fix it..and minimize those things from happening again

04-08-2008, 08:36 AM

yes what Phoenix said !

notoldschool · 04-08-2008, 08:40 AM

We havent had any problems up to this point.

commonsense · 04-08-2008, 08:45 AM

Instead of dealing with things like grown ups, some like to run around and cry wolf for all to see. Some whiny bitches around here.

prime · 04-08-2008, 09:12 AM

We decided to pay back his $595/month payment (for staff leasing around Sep 2007) via epass because we wanted to put this issue to rest. After we have sent payment, he declined to give us control of primeoutsourcingsucks.com and wants $405 more for that to happen.

So, we contacted epass for the reversal. And we were only able to recover $241.62 because of insufficient funds on that account at that time.

Mr. DE Holm if you are going to update your blog then don?t just put unverified information from a disgruntled resigned employee.

If you have problem with epass then, you should have contacted them first before posting a thread like these.

prime · 04-08-2008, 09:21 AM

it should be (for staff leasing around Sep 2006) not Sep 2007

spunkmister · 04-08-2008, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prime

it should be (for staff leasing around Sep 2006) not Sep 2007

what was the other $405 for?

commonsense · 04-08-2008, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prime

We decided to pay back his $595/month payment (for staff leasing around Sep 2007) via epass because we wanted to put this issue to rest. After we have sent payment, he declined to give us control of primeoutsourcingsucks.com and wants $405 more for that to happen.

So, we contacted epass for the reversal. And we were only able to recover $241.62 because of insufficient funds on that account at that time.

Mr. DE Holm if you are going to update your blog then don?t just put unverified information from a disgruntled resigned employee.

If you have problem with epass then, you should have contacted them first before posting a thread like these.

So the amount was a blackmail payment?

Wagerboy · 04-08-2008, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaze

i have Chase..i never had problems transfering money from ePassporte into my bank account...are you doing it the other way around?

Never ever had a problem doing a epass to bank acct transfer, but trying to load the card is when Chase gets a little stupid. Apparently they have a whole dept that watches Internet transactions and if they dont like it, its declined, then you call in to CS and they ask you no less then 20 questions and release the block. Way way overkill!

cykoe6 · 04-08-2008, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

I am going to post once about this and thats all.
Like I told you this is being looked into and I promised you an answer after 1pm ET.
If we made a mistake we will correct it, since you are stating we support fraud I will be more than happy to assist you in getting your account closed and the funds in your account send to you when this have been resolved, lets discuss that on ICQ when I get back to you as promised.

Michael

I was going to say something but I changed my mind because I don't want my account closed too.

To be fair to Epass most payment systems allow the sender to reverse the payment in a certain amount of time. Paypal springs to mind.

Socks · 04-08-2008, 09:41 AM

Man talk about a thread blowing up in your face lol.. don't give this tool his money back, he's already made $500 of problems for everyone involved.

tranza · 04-08-2008, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prime

We decided to pay back his $595/month payment (for staff leasing around Sep 2007) via epass because we wanted to put this issue to rest. After we have sent payment, he declined to give us control of primeoutsourcingsucks.com and wants $405 more for that to happen.

So, we contacted epass for the reversal. And we were only able to recover $241.62 because of insufficient funds on that account at that time.

Mr. DE Holm if you are going to update your blog then don?t just put unverified information from a disgruntled resigned employee.

If you have problem with epass then, you should have contacted them first before posting a thread like these.

Wow, that's a nice twist.

So, in the end, "Pain Thing" was trying to black mail an outsourcing business and got busted.

What an idiot.

Pryda · 04-08-2008, 09:53 AM

I love my ePassporte, nothing wrong with them!

gleem · 04-08-2008, 09:56 AM

lol, such drama, sounds like Painthing didn't like whatever prime outsourcing did for him (which is the case for most webm doing outsourcing jobs for the first few times cause they generally suck, but you get what you pay for) so he started a blog that they sucked till he got his money back, and now Prime wants the domain transfered to them, he wouldn't for other reasons, (maybe they owe more than what they paid) they did a payment reversal for the epass payment (thought you couldn't do this) and now he's whining about epass screwing him.

Lessons Learned:

1. don't use outsourcing unless you realize what you are getting (good things aren't cheap and cheap things aren't any good 99% of the time)

2. Whining about a problem with a major company on GFY always, ALWAYS WORKS, assuming you are in the right and you are willing to be labeled "The guy that aired his shit in public" and then prolly burn some bridges in the process..

3. Since when can you do a fucking payment reversal on EPASS? Special favor to friends of em or something?

fuzebox · 04-08-2008, 09:56 AM

, wow this Pain Thing guy has an interesting way of dealing with problems.

Wizzo · 04-08-2008, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pryda

I love my ePassporte, nothing wrong with them!

Rhesus · 04-08-2008, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

Wow, that's a nice twist.

So, in the end, "Pain Thing" was trying to black mail an outsourcing business and got busted.

What an idiot.

I'd guess things are a bit different - PainThing must have had a bad experience with prime outsourcing, so bad that he not only asked for a refund but also opened primeoutsourcingsucks.com. I can see why he wouldn't transfer ownership of that domain, as far as I know there's no trademark or a court ruling.

PainThing · 04-08-2008, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

, wow this Pain Thing guy has an interesting way of dealing with problems.

No, this was not Blackmail, Primeoutsourcing owes me over $1000

and this has nothing to do with the actions of Epassporte....

gleem · 04-08-2008, 10:02 AM

wow, here's the real story:
http://www.primeoutsourcingsucks.com...rnings-alerts/

Quote:

Prime Outsourcing webmaster was contracted to develop mainstream websites for my company at $595 a month. After 3 months I experienced the following;

Went through 4 different webmasters who could not follow instructions and repeatedly made up excuses after excuses.

Prime Outsourcing employees never work six days a week as contracted as they invent multiple public holidays for not working.

Prime Outsourcing webmaster delivered copy n paste STOLEN CONTENT on multiple websites as contracted work.

Prime Outsourcing ignores email communications and ICQ messages when there is a problem.

Because of the stolen copyright content I have received C&D letters in regards and had to suspend and remove multiple sites. I have tried unsuccessfully to get a refund from Prime Outsourcing and am currently pursuing my legal options.

Before I went to the boards I attempted many times to get my epassporte account refunded with no avail.

Rhesus · 04-08-2008, 10:05 AM

I haven't used prime outsourcing services, so don't take my word for it, but remember there isn't a single praiseful thread on them on this board. There are hundreds of posts that say the exact opposite, though...

KnightMare · 04-08-2008, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PainThing

Epassporte.com Reverses Payment Transfer!

I was informed by Epassporte.com today after reviewing my account that they reversed charges because the member stated that there was an erroneous payment made during transfer of funds. Epassporte has drained my account of existing funds and left it at as negative balance.

I cannot for the life of me believe Epass would do this!

Epassporte never contacted me in regards... The transferring member emailed Epassporte saying they had made an erroneous transfer and were reissued their funds that they made as repayment (stated in original message).

So if you ever receive a payment from Epassporte be aware that the payment can be reversed for any reason.

Until Epassporte rectifies this situation and refunds my accounts,
I consider

Epassporte NOT safe for doing any business transactions!

LOL.... Fucking noob.

spunkmister · 04-08-2008, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhesus

I haven't used prime outsourcing services, so don't take my word for it, but remember there isn't a single praiseful thread on them on this board. There are hundreds of posts that say the exact opposite, though...

whether prime is a shitty company or not isnt the case here...the OP says that Epass supports fraud, I was under the impression unless you can provide some sort of proof it was a bannable offense.

vending_machine · 04-08-2008, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense

So the amount was a blackmail payment?

Busted? ;)

teg0 · 04-08-2008, 10:26 AM

i haven't had any problems with epass after they made to jump their their verification gauntlet a over a year ago.

Brujah · 04-08-2008, 12:34 PM

Prime Outsourcing doesn't look good.

J. Falcon · 04-08-2008, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix

epass is good...sign of a good company is when things go wrong they take steps to fix it..and minimize those things from happening again

I concur.

Been using them for more than one year and never had a problem.

camchoice · 04-08-2008, 12:43 PM

no problems with epass here..

DevilsDreams · 04-08-2008, 12:48 PM

we should use this to get our money back from that scam artist dynamix aka tgpfactory but epassporte told us we were shitouttaluck.

John. · 04-08-2008, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prime

We decided to pay back his $595/month payment (for staff leasing around Sep 2007) via epass because we wanted to put this issue to rest. After we have sent payment, he declined to give us control of primeoutsourcingsucks.com and wants $405 more for that to happen.

So, we contacted epass for the reversal. And we were only able to recover $241.62 because of insufficient funds on that account at that time.

Mr. DE Holm if you are going to update your blog then don?t just put unverified information from a disgruntled resigned employee.

If you have problem with epass then, you should have contacted them first before posting a thread like these.

Who is Mr. DE Holm?

papill0n · 04-08-2008, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PainThing

Shit like this is UN FUCKING BELIEVEABLE!

This Is Blatant Fraud And Epassporte Supports It!

Wow thats not cool Dave.

born4porn · 04-08-2008, 03:10 PM

epasporte is good, and Michael always sorts out any problems!

woj · 04-08-2008, 03:23 PM

The payment was probably made from a biz account, and I thought those payments are reversible?

Brent 3dSexCash · 04-08-2008, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by born4porn

epasporte is good, and Michael always sorts out any problems!

For what it is worth, they have a BBB rating of F:

http://www.labbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Bu...ID=100005 885

Having known people that worked for the BBB, this is an extremely hard thing to accomplish.

If you never have a problem that requires support, you will probably be fine. I have to say though it is nice to have someone on the boards here from epassporte to sort things out

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