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notoldschool · 04-10-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by madfuck

who cares.... bump

CosmicTang · 04-10-2008, 06:46 PM

wow. page four.

Skillz Unlimited · 04-10-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang

wow. page four.

You gotta love it

Birdman33 · 04-10-2008, 11:37 PM

By the way one thing i forgot to mention is that we missed jordans best years . Those 3 years he went missing was during his prime and he could have easily had an 8 peat. No point arguing in that statment thx

Fap · 04-10-2008, 11:41 PM

is this even a serious question? jordan

Drake · 04-10-2008, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Birdman33

By the way one thing i forgot to mention is that we missed jordans best years . Those 3 years he went missing was during his prime and he could have easily had an 8 peat. No point arguing in that statment thx

Excellent point. It also shows that he was always more about the game and winning rather than breaking basketball records or padding his basketball stats.

Bojangles · 04-11-2008, 01:26 AM

What Is PER?

Player Efficiency Rating is a formula that uses a player?s stats to determine how productive and efficient he is in his time on the court. If he shoots the ball frequently, but does not convert on as many of his shots, his rating goes down. If he turns the ball over frequently, his rating goes down. If he is efficient and contributes an all-around performance, his rating goes up. Due to factors such as lower shooting percentages, it is almost impossible for a guard to have a very high career PER (such as above 25).

Percentage of 50+ point games against teams with winning records

Michael Jordan: 71%
Kobe Bryant: 27%

Record in games with 30+ shot attempts

Michael Jordan: 72-57 (.558)
Kobe Bryant: 32-40 (.444)

Percentage of points scored on free throws

Michael Jordan: 23%
Kobe Bryant: 26%

Percentage of points scored on two point field goals

Michael Jordan: 72%
Kobe Bryant: 59%

Three point field goal attempts per game

Michael Jordan: 1.66
Kobe Bryant: 3.63

Career PER

Michael Jordan: 27.91
Kobe Bryant: 23.57

Highest PER season

Michael Jordan: 31.71
Kobe Bryant: 27.97

Seasons with 30+ PER

Michael Jordan: 4
Kobe Bryant: 0

Seasons with 28+ PER

Michael Jordan: 7
Kobe Bryant: 0

Seasons with 25+ PER

Michael Jordan: 12
Kobe Bryant: 3

Shooting in 50 point games

Of the 143 50 point games since 1986 in the regular season, Michael Jordan has the #1, #5 and #8 games in terms of shooting percentage. He has three more in the top 25. Kobe's most efficient game is #12.

Kobe Bryant has the three worst shooting 50 point games not only since 1986, but the three worst 50 point games (in terms of efficiency) in NBA history. These are among the few games in history in which a player scored 50 points, but didn't even make half of his shots from the field. In other words, these are achievements of volume shooting, not efficiency. But these aren't flukes, either. In terms of shooting, Kobe also has 7 of the 15 worst, and 10 of the 25 worst 50 point games since 1986. That's half of all of his 50 point efforts. Jordan has merely one game in the bottom 25.

Jordan's #1, #5 and #8 games

24-29, 52 points, Nov. 16, 1988

21-27, 59 points, April 3, 1988

21-28, 53 points, March 7, 1996

Kobe's 3 worst 50 pt. games in history

17-38, 53 points, December 15, 2006

19-44, 53 points, March 30, 2007

17-41, 50 points, January 7, 2006

Yep, I believe I'll definitely be going with Jordan on this no brainer. Oh, and Kobe was NOTHING without Shaq.

pocketkangaroo · 04-11-2008, 02:22 AM

I'd also add that Lebron has more potential to be better than MJ. I still think Kobe has a few years of prime left, but that's it. He came in out of high school and his legs are just not going to hold up. That's not to say he won't be a great player still, but I think in a year or two will start the downward trend of his career.

As for Lebron, I think if he figures out how to either get a fadeaway or spot up jumper into his arsenal, he becomes the greatest offensive player ever. He has more raw talent, but is just not a better basketball player. He never spent his time in the offseason to improve his game and add an extra move. If you remember, Jordan completely changed his game following his first retirement.

ark 123 · 04-11-2008, 02:30 AM

kobe bryant fans generally suffer from mass hysteria and are usually incapable of defending themselves from the power of suggestion.

anyone who regards themselves as a lakers fan AND an objective person should visit lakersfiction[dot]blogspot[dot]com.

i had to write it like that because i'm a f-ing newbie, and f-ing newbies aren't allowed to post links.

Drake · 04-11-2008, 02:35 AM

A well informed post bojangles. The stats confirm what is obvious to most of us who don't live in Cali. People don't treat Jordan's record and ability as sacrosanct out of nostalgia or idealism.

gimo33 · 04-11-2008, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bojangles

What Is PER?

Player Efficiency Rating is a formula that uses a player?s stats to determine how productive and efficient he is in his time on the court. If he shoots the ball frequently, but does not convert on as many of his shots, his rating goes down. If he turns the ball over frequently, his rating goes down. If he is efficient and contributes an all-around performance, his rating goes up. Due to factors such as lower shooting percentages, it is almost impossible for a guard to have a very high career PER (such as above 25).

Percentage of 50+ point games against teams with winning records

Michael Jordan: 71%
Kobe Bryant: 27%

Record in games with 30+ shot attempts

Michael Jordan: 72-57 (.558)
Kobe Bryant: 32-40 (.444)

Percentage of points scored on free throws

Michael Jordan: 23%
Kobe Bryant: 26%

Percentage of points scored on two point field goals

Michael Jordan: 72%
Kobe Bryant: 59%

Three point field goal attempts per game

Michael Jordan: 1.66
Kobe Bryant: 3.63

Career PER

Michael Jordan: 27.91
Kobe Bryant: 23.57

Highest PER season

Michael Jordan: 31.71
Kobe Bryant: 27.97

Seasons with 30+ PER

Michael Jordan: 4
Kobe Bryant: 0

Seasons with 28+ PER

Michael Jordan: 7
Kobe Bryant: 0

Seasons with 25+ PER

Michael Jordan: 12
Kobe Bryant: 3

Shooting in 50 point games

Of the 143 50 point games since 1986 in the regular season, Michael Jordan has the #1, #5 and #8 games in terms of shooting percentage. He has three more in the top 25. Kobe's most efficient game is #12.

Kobe Bryant has the three worst shooting 50 point games not only since 1986, but the three worst 50 point games (in terms of efficiency) in NBA history. These are among the few games in history in which a player scored 50 points, but didn't even make half of his shots from the field. In other words, these are achievements of volume shooting, not efficiency. But these aren't flukes, either. In terms of shooting, Kobe also has 7 of the 15 worst, and 10 of the 25 worst 50 point games since 1986. That's half of all of his 50 point efforts. Jordan has merely one game in the bottom 25.

Jordan's #1, #5 and #8 games

24-29, 52 points, Nov. 16, 1988

21-27, 59 points, April 3, 1988

21-28, 53 points, March 7, 1996

Kobe's 3 worst 50 pt. games in history

17-38, 53 points, December 15, 2006

19-44, 53 points, March 30, 2007

17-41, 50 points, January 7, 2006

Yep, I believe I'll definitely be going with Jordan on this no brainer. Oh, and Kobe was NOTHING without Shaq.

Thank You!

CDSmith · 04-11-2008, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang

Who do you want with the ball at the end of a game?

My answer has to be Kobe.

(you know, since Jordan's retired and all)

HotMeghan_GL · 04-11-2008, 06:28 AM

jordan, definitely.
but lebron over jordan.

Bojangles · 04-11-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

A well informed post bojangles. The stats confirm what is obvious to most of us who don't live in Cali. People don't treat Jordan's record and ability as sacrosanct out of nostalgia or idealism.

Also, something else I have noticed with the NBA. They absolutely love the Lakers. Why? When they were winning the championships, they were making MAD bank. Everyone owned a Kobe, and/or Shaq jersey. Hell, I even saw people wearing Rick Fox jersey's. Anyway, did anyone else notice the refs? How they ALWAYS seemed to help out the Lakers in anyway possible. I'm just curious, because I noticed this, and there was a radio personality talking about this. How the Lakers manage to get these "phantom foul" calls for them.

I'm not insulting anyone, or their choice in teams/players. I'm just voicing my opinion.

g$$$ · 04-11-2008, 10:47 AM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=yURa9T0-Rjk

KOBE is AMAZING

AK · 04-11-2008, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by HotMeghan

jordan, definitely.
but lebron over jordan.

whoa.. you are just opening a whole other conversation Meghan LOL

smax · 04-11-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang

kinda like all the people who hate him don't?

and???

That just proves what homers you all are over the hometown kid, while MJ on the other hand transcends all boundaries.
I really do not think anyone here that knows anything about basketball questions Kobes talent, but to compare him to Jordan is ludicrous.

CosmicTang · 04-11-2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by g$$$

https://youtube.com/watch?v=yURa9T0-Rjk

can Jordan do THAT?

CosmicTang · 04-11-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by smax

and???

That just proves what homers you all are over the hometown kid, while MJ on the other hand transcends all boundaries.
I really do not think anyone here that knows anything about basketball questions Kobes talent, but to compare him to Jordan is ludicrous.

if you go waaaaaaaaaay back to the beginning of the thread you'll see that the question was who would you want to take the final shot in a big game.

Not who was better, best ever, or whatever else it's been turned it into. Jordan has made huge shots. Kobe has made huge shots. We have Jordan's entire career to examine, Kobe isn't done yet and I believe his best is yet to come. Best ever is a discussion you can't really have yet, it's not fair to Kobe.

notoldschool · 04-11-2008, 11:12 AM

AK · 04-11-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang

if you go waaaaaaaaaay back to the beginning of the thread you'll see that the question was who would you want to take the final shot in a big game.

Not who was better, best ever, or whatever else it's been turned it into. Jordan has made huge shots. Kobe has made huge shots. We have Jordan's entire career to examine, Kobe isn't done yet and I believe his best is yet to come. Best ever is a discussion you can't really have yet, it's not fair to Kobe.

yupe after all said and done...

i still stick to my answer: MJ

there is no right or wrong answer, but the poll showed who would get the votes

either way, good job on the thread Lorenzo.

Drake · 04-11-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang

can Jordan do THAT?

Is there really any doubt that Jordan has a superior vertical to Kobe? Refer to the classic MJ slam dunk competition if you have doubts.

Btw, if the stunt is real, it's pretty crazy. Playing chicken with your multi-million dollar career is... well... not advised.

Drake · 04-11-2008, 12:02 PM

Skillz Unlimited · 04-11-2008, 12:30 PM

Just incase you haven't seen this...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KaSkaY_dfqM

Daddy Big Nuts · 04-11-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SMASHXXX

jordan. kobe can't clean his shoes.

This guy is right on. Anyone who saw both play couldn't possibly compare the two. Jordan was to basketball what Tiger Woods is to golf right now. Kobe isn't even close to that ...now...nor will he be. That bar is way too way for him to reach.

So...to answer your question. Jordan. Even if he uses his LEFT HAND.

Skillz Unlimited · 04-11-2008, 12:53 PM

Speaking of Kobe....

Do you guys think this is real?

I'll tell you what i think after you see it....

notoldschool · 04-11-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Skillz Unlimited

Speaking of Kobe....

Do you guys think this is real?

I'll tell you what i think after you see it....

Not even close. = 2 bad photo chop IMO.

Birdman33 · 04-11-2008, 01:15 PM

Another typical horrible shooting night for kobe once again . Can that choke artist ever shoot a good % wow not even vs the clippers he went 6-17 Honestly ive seen people get spit on for even saying jordan and kobe in the same sentence =)

CyberAgeGary · 04-11-2008, 01:17 PM

Damn, Even Jordan did that car stunt for You Tube.. Maybe it's a new thing... Check it out!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

notoldschool · 04-11-2008, 01:19 PM

Looks like Dirk was clutch last night when he secured a playoff spot with a last minute shot. Guess someone was wrong about my statement.

smax · 04-11-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang

can Jordan do THAT?

sure he can and so can you and me and anyone else

www(dot)youtube.com/watch?v=7shHyZZCcls

Isradude · 04-11-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HotMeghan

jordan, definitely.
but lebron over jordan.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!! no no no !!!!

jordan!!!

smoke · 04-11-2008, 01:42 PM

Funny that you guys are talking about Kobe's leaping ability, he only has a 38 inch vertical. There are plenty of guys that get higher.

Look at this: http://vertcoach.com/highest-vertical-leap.html

bushwacker · 04-11-2008, 01:42 PM

The difference between kobe and jordan is, when kobe retires he will be a distant memory.

CosmicTang · 04-11-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

Looks like Dirk was clutch last night when he secured a playoff spot with a last minute shot. Guess someone was wrong about my statement.

which statement was that?

sexyclicks · 04-11-2008, 03:35 PM

even kobe would pick jordan

notoldschool · 04-11-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang

which statement was that?

well actually two statements.

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Originally Posted by farkedup

During the regular season I think I'd rather have Dirk but come playoff time no thanks! Kinda like the shooter that was on the Kings and is now on the hornets... one of the best shooters in the league during the regular season but just doesn't step up in the playoffs. I couldn't ever imagine a duncan led team getting knocked out in the first round but a #8 seed no less.

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Originally Posted by AK

hehehe, u can't be taking Dirk over Kobe!
TD and Lebron - some can argue on that, but not Dirk!

Bojangles · 04-11-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sexyclicks

even kobe would pick jordan

Iscari0t · 04-11-2008, 05:25 PM

To be fair to Kobe, he's actually not awful at defense.

I think he was all-defensive first team twice, and ditto for second team.

But Jordan would wtfpwn him. Hell. I might actually prefer Joe Dumars with the ball at the end of the game over Kobe, because he'd have the humility to pass that shit if he were covered.

Birdman33 · 04-11-2008, 05:30 PM

WOW can he make a shot a dunk such an over rated player. One thing he is great at tho I have to admit is turnovers https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gv3ltCD39OU

notoldschool · 04-11-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Iscari0t

Hell. I might actually prefer Joe Dumars with the ball at the end of the game over Kobe, because he'd have the humility to pass that shit if he were covered.

Yep, kinda like Jordan passing to Paxon for winning 3's in playoffs and finals in major pressure situations. Faith in your players is something Kobe has always lacked. Jordan turned mere men into superstars.

Rique · 04-11-2008, 05:38 PM

Kobe!

Skillz Unlimited · 04-11-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAgeGary

Damn, Even Jordan did that car stunt for You Tube.. Maybe it's a new thing... Check it out!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

lmao!!! Fucker!

Skillz Unlimited · 04-11-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rique

Kobe!

Your vote doesn't count, you only have 6 posts.

JK -

Skillz Unlimited · 04-11-2008, 05:55 PM

Ok so since they both needed a supporting cast to survive, what about a game of 2 on 2?!?!?! If you had to pick Jordan or Kobe and one big man....who would you choose.

smax · 04-11-2008, 06:16 PM

Jordan and Olajuwon

bushwacker · 04-11-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by smax

Jordan and Olajuwon

Nice choice!

notoldschool · 04-11-2008, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Skillz Unlimited

Ok so since they both needed a supporting cast to survive, what about a game of 2 on 2?!?!?! If you had to pick Jordan or Kobe and one big man....who would you choose.

Jordan and Shaq. There is not a center in history that Shaq couldnt box out, and Jordan would easily go around Kobe for open lane dunks all day.

smoke · 04-11-2008, 07:10 PM

In two on two I think Olajuwon - Jordan would be more dangerous because Olajuwon can pull his man away from the basket.

Skillz Unlimited · 04-11-2008, 08:04 PM

I'm going with Jordan and Kevin Garnette.

Who wants it?

View Poll Results: Jordan or Kobe?
Jordan	137	83.54%
Kobe	27	16.46%
Voters: 164. You may not vote on this poll

04-10-2008, 06:46 PM	#152
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04-11-2008, 02:30 AM	#159
ark 123 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 24	mass hysteria kobe bryant fans generally suffer from mass hysteria and are usually incapable of defending themselves from the power of suggestion. anyone who regards themselves as a lakers fan AND an objective person should visit lakersfiction[dot]blogspot[dot]com. i had to write it like that because i'm a f-ing newbie, and f-ing newbies aren't allowed to post links.

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04-11-2008, 01:17 PM	#179
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04-10-2008, 11:37 PM	#154
Birdman33 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 249	By the way one thing i forgot to mention is that we missed jordans best years . Those 3 years he went missing was during his prime and he could have easily had an 8 peat. No point arguing in that statment thx

04-10-2008, 11:41 PM	#155
Fap Just Du It Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 12,094	is this even a serious question? jordan

04-11-2008, 01:26 AM	#157
Bojangles Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,419	What Is PER? Player Efficiency Rating is a formula that uses a player?s stats to determine how productive and efficient he is in his time on the court. If he shoots the ball frequently, but does not convert on as many of his shots, his rating goes down. If he turns the ball over frequently, his rating goes down. If he is efficient and contributes an all-around performance, his rating goes up. Due to factors such as lower shooting percentages, it is almost impossible for a guard to have a very high career PER (such as above 25). Percentage of 50+ point games against teams with winning records Michael Jordan: 71% Kobe Bryant: 27% Record in games with 30+ shot attempts Michael Jordan: 72-57 (.558) Kobe Bryant: 32-40 (.444) Percentage of points scored on free throws Michael Jordan: 23% Kobe Bryant: 26% Percentage of points scored on two point field goals Michael Jordan: 72% Kobe Bryant: 59% Three point field goal attempts per game Michael Jordan: 1.66 Kobe Bryant: 3.63 Career PER Michael Jordan: 27.91 Kobe Bryant: 23.57 Highest PER season Michael Jordan: 31.71 Kobe Bryant: 27.97 Seasons with 30+ PER Michael Jordan: 4 Kobe Bryant: 0 Seasons with 28+ PER Michael Jordan: 7 Kobe Bryant: 0 Seasons with 25+ PER Michael Jordan: 12 Kobe Bryant: 3 Shooting in 50 point games Of the 143 50 point games since 1986 in the regular season, Michael Jordan has the #1, #5 and #8 games in terms of shooting percentage. He has three more in the top 25. Kobe's most efficient game is #12. Kobe Bryant has the three worst shooting 50 point games not only since 1986, but the three worst 50 point games (in terms of efficiency) in NBA history. These are among the few games in history in which a player scored 50 points, but didn't even make half of his shots from the field. In other words, these are achievements of volume shooting, not efficiency. But these aren't flukes, either. In terms of shooting, Kobe also has 7 of the 15 worst, and 10 of the 25 worst 50 point games since 1986. That's half of all of his 50 point efforts. Jordan has merely one game in the bottom 25. Jordan's #1, #5 and #8 games 24-29, 52 points, Nov. 16, 1988 21-27, 59 points, April 3, 1988 21-28, 53 points, March 7, 1996 Kobe's 3 worst 50 pt. games in history 17-38, 53 points, December 15, 2006 19-44, 53 points, March 30, 2007 17-41, 50 points, January 7, 2006 Yep, I believe I'll definitely be going with Jordan on this no brainer. Oh, and Kobe was NOTHING without Shaq.

04-11-2008, 02:22 AM	#158
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	I'd also add that Lebron has more potential to be better than MJ. I still think Kobe has a few years of prime left, but that's it. He came in out of high school and his legs are just not going to hold up. That's not to say he won't be a great player still, but I think in a year or two will start the downward trend of his career. As for Lebron, I think if he figures out how to either get a fadeaway or spot up jumper into his arsenal, he becomes the greatest offensive player ever. He has more raw talent, but is just not a better basketball player. He never spent his time in the offseason to improve his game and add an extra move. If you remember, Jordan completely changed his game following his first retirement.

04-11-2008, 02:35 AM	#160
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	A well informed post bojangles. The stats confirm what is obvious to most of us who don't live in Cali. People don't treat Jordan's record and ability as sacrosanct out of nostalgia or idealism.

04-11-2008, 06:28 AM	#163
HotMeghan_GL Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 358	jordan, definitely. but lebron over jordan.

04-11-2008, 10:47 AM	#165
g$$$ Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,807	https://youtube.com/watch?v=yURa9T0-Rjk KOBE is AMAZING

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Skillz Unlimited Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Califor Posts: 1,541	Just incase you haven't seen this... https://youtube.com/watch?v=KaSkaY_dfqM

04-11-2008, 12:53 PM	#176
Skillz Unlimited Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Califor Posts: 1,541	Speaking of Kobe.... Do you guys think this is real? I'll tell you what i think after you see it....

04-11-2008, 01:15 PM	#178
Birdman33 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 249	Another typical horrible shooting night for kobe once again . Can that choke artist ever shoot a good % wow not even vs the clippers he went 6-17 Honestly ive seen people get spit on for even saying jordan and kobe in the same sentence =)

04-11-2008, 01:19 PM	#180
notoldschool Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,687	Looks like Dirk was clutch last night when he secured a playoff spot with a last minute shot. Guess someone was wrong about my statement. __________________ No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture. -- Learned Hand http://www.bjpenn.com

04-11-2008, 01:42 PM	#183
smoke Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 449	Funny that you guys are talking about Kobe's leaping ability, he only has a 38 inch vertical. There are plenty of guys that get higher. Look at this: http://vertcoach.com/highest-vertical-leap.html

04-11-2008, 01:42 PM	#184
bushwacker Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: so. fla. Posts: 2,817	The difference between kobe and jordan is, when kobe retires he will be a distant memory.

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sexyclicks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: c9media.com Posts: 3,240	even kobe would pick jordan

04-11-2008, 05:25 PM	#189
Iscari0t Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 79	To be fair to Kobe, he's actually not awful at defense. I think he was all-defensive first team twice, and ditto for second team. But Jordan would wtfpwn him. Hell. I might actually prefer Joe Dumars with the ball at the end of the game over Kobe, because he'd have the humility to pass that shit if he were covered.

04-11-2008, 05:30 PM	#190
Birdman33 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 249	Speaking about missing dunks WOW can he make a shot a dunk such an over rated player. One thing he is great at tho I have to admit is turnovers https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gv3ltCD39OU

04-11-2008, 05:38 PM	#192
Rique Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: So Cal Posts: 334	Kobe!

04-11-2008, 05:55 PM	#195
Skillz Unlimited Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Califor Posts: 1,541	Ok so since they both needed a supporting cast to survive, what about a game of 2 on 2?!?!?! If you had to pick Jordan or Kobe and one big man....who would you choose.

04-11-2008, 06:16 PM	#196
smax Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 341	Jordan and Olajuwon

04-11-2008, 07:10 PM	#199
smoke Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 449	In two on two I think Olajuwon - Jordan would be more dangerous because Olajuwon can pull his man away from the basket.

04-11-2008, 08:04 PM	#200
Skillz Unlimited Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Califor Posts: 1,541	I'm going with Jordan and Kevin Garnette. Who wants it?