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Old 04-17-2008, 12:04 PM   #1
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Post some things you learned while working online

Here are some things I found out over the years:


Building value is often better than making money directly

While quick cash is nice, building long-term value will eventually make you more money. For example, in the long run, a programmer is usually better off writing his own scripts which he can sell over and over again than he is doing jobs for others. Likewise, a writer is usually better off creating his own blogs than he is writing posts for other people's blogs, etc.


When starting projects, always take upkeep time and costs into account

When you start a new project, it's very easy to only see initial costs (both in time and money). That makes it all too simple to underestimate the time it takes to keep a site running after it's built. Especially if you run and update your own sites, a few blogs or tgps can easily soak up most of your time.

Moreover, keeping projects running (adding content, managing traffic trades, managing ads) is much more boring than starting them, and it's where people most often lose the motivation to turn their projects into a success.

That's why automating boring tasks is usually a good idea. Also, it's a reason why "build and forget" sites typically do better than many sites requiring constant upkeep in the long run, when considering the time/money ratio.


Making money with many small sites is easier than making money with a single big one

It's what many people do wrong: they start a single big project that takes up all their time, rather than many small ones that each take very little time. That makes them much more vulnerable to failure and changing markets than they would be otherwise.

Creating a single "build and forget" site that takes you a week to create and nets you $100 a month is easy. Do that every week, and after a year you're making $5200 a month. Do it for 10 years, and you're looking at a very nice income.

Moreover, it gives you the opportunity to expand your most successful projects, and kill off the least successful ones. In the long run, following this strategy, you'll probably end up with several huge sites.


Don't expect success overnight

When you're working on a project, it's tempting to dream about how it will be a huge success right away. Alas, that's usually not how it works. Like many good wines, projects need time to reach their full potential. It often takes weeks, if not months, before a site starts bringing in money.
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Old 04-17-2008, 12:06 PM   #2
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Old 04-17-2008, 12:36 PM   #3
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Old 04-17-2008, 12:47 PM   #4
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Old 04-17-2008, 12:51 PM   #5
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Putting icq on invisible was the best move ever.

Probably fucked now though lol
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Old 04-17-2008, 12:53 PM   #6
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Probably fucked now though lol
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Old 04-17-2008, 12:56 PM   #7
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:04 PM   #8
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Be yourself.

Avoid mob behavior and do not just follow along because everyone else seems to be.

Do nothing that will come back to haunt you, it always resurfaces.
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:26 PM   #9
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Putting icq on invisible was the best move ever.

Probably fucked now though lol
I learned that about four years ago. I always have mine set to away.
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:27 PM   #10
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Get away from the computer as much as possible.

Extended web work hurts social skills which you will need at some point.
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:34 PM   #11
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Get away from the computer as much as possible.

Extended web work hurts social skills which you will need at some point.
That's a good one. I spent about 10 years working online... it did some serious damage to my social skills, as well as my physique.

That's why I'm planning to move away from the internet. I'm an obsessive workaholic by nature, so I need work that has me interacting with people in real life, or I turn into a hermit
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:34 PM   #12
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:36 PM   #13
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I used to feel that about 10% of humans would stop at nothing, or stoop to any level, to make a buck.

After a few years on the Internet I learned that my earlier prediction was way, way too low.
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:37 PM   #14
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Old 04-17-2008, 02:12 PM   #15
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Old 04-17-2008, 02:14 PM   #16
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Old 04-17-2008, 02:47 PM   #17
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I used to feel that about 10% of humans would stop at nothing, or stoop to any level, to make a buck.

After a few years on the Internet I learned that my earlier prediction was way, way too low.
shoot content for a while, then you'll really see some 'behaviors' . -bmb
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Old 04-17-2008, 03:01 PM   #18
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