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nastythresh · 04-21-2008, 01:38 PM

Hey Vanbest, hit me up on ICQ: 266736716 or email [email protected] and we can go over your account.

Thanks,

Dan

Socks · 04-21-2008, 01:44 PM

ND stats are fine over here.

Dollarmansteve · 04-21-2008, 01:57 PM

I'm just curious as to what kind of "answer" you would like nasty dollars to provide? What is your implication?

I work with lots of people who's traffic, for whatever reason, starts to suck. We try and tweak it.. maybe try some new / different sites, weed out some poor performers.. but ultimately.. if the ratios don't improve, then most times they will go and try someone else for a while til we have something new.

It would be nice if everyone converted 1:1000 or 1:750 everyday from now til the end of time - but it's not going to happen. Your conversion ratio is unique to your traffic stream.. and if it stops performing with a site / sponsor program /etc - you just have to make the decision that's best for your business.

fluffygrrl · 04-21-2008, 03:02 PM

Thing is, if you're only promoting one sponsor off one website, or in general, if you're only sending the traffic stream to one single place, there's nothing you can know for sure.

They could be converting 1:10, and still be skimming you 80%. They could be converting 1:100,000, and not skim you at all.

The solution is to always send traffic to at the very least two similar sponsors off any site, and in a known proportion. Then you can compare their results, and then you can look at their funels, see if they leak traffic, if the pages just suck, etc.

Often you'll find no leaks and nice professional funels and maybe even be 100% certain they're not shaving and yet, toilet results. It happens.

tiger · 04-21-2008, 03:06 PM

Try sending the traffic to other sponsors see what happens. Couldn't be worse then what you are doing now.

woj · 04-21-2008, 03:42 PM

How can you guys make a living with ratios like that? Even 1 in 2k is pretty damn terrible...

Socks · 04-21-2008, 04:03 PM

define "make a living" woj... ;)

woj · 04-21-2008, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks

define "make a living" woj... ;)

Enough to pay all the bills, and still have some $$ left over for coke and hookers

jk, heh

rogerrabbit00 · 04-21-2008, 06:03 PM

Anybody with dropped conversions can contact me to fix the problem.

cherrylula · 04-21-2008, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanbest

...On the other hand, how do you guys explain that sign-ups suddenly stopped at the end of December? ...

gee, do you think that all the money Dad spends on Xmas and ends up broke at the end of the year has anything to do with that?

learn some BUSINESS, its much more than just tgping.

cherrylula · 04-21-2008, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanbest

Great ideea QuaShe, here it is, it's the printscreen of the second half of last year, since August 1st 'till December 31st 2007. Remember, no major changes in traffic... What do you think?

I sooo miss the old GFY.

If this were 2002, you'd be ripped a new asshole and this thread would go on for days after posting those stats.

But good luck noob, you're gonna need it cause the gold rush is looong gone.

xclicks · 04-22-2008, 12:13 AM

Hi,
I can understand your frustration because my stats are quite the same with all sponsors. From 800 per month to 70 at Bang bross and from 700 to 70 at Nasty in about 16 months it is pretty obvious of what trend will follow.
Overall conversion is in sponsors yard and traffic belong to webmasters. Words like oversaturated, overexposed, overadvertised and so on are still on sponsors yard and it's their job to make a site to convert almost the same all the time. Having so low conversions on my own TGPs I start working with ppc programs and makes me quite the same. I sent all new sponsors to buy ppc add place. So far they didn't cause there are a lot like you who send traffic like hell.
With ppc u can have around 1-2c per click so whatever makes u less then that u should look into this.

vanbest · 04-22-2008, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula

I sooo miss the old GFY.

If this were 2002, you'd be ripped a new asshole and this thread would go on for days after posting those stats.

But good luck noob, you're gonna need it cause the gold rush is looong gone.

If this was 2002 I wouldn't had these ratios dummy

pussyluver · 04-22-2008, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

I am looking at one of my accounts. YTD it has twice as much traffic as you. However, my traffic is grouped to certain sites a lot tighter than yours is grouped. I have 67 sales YTD on this account. Converting 1:516 on SEO traffic.

I have actually gotten better in the last few weeks. The sites also promote fling for 23 more signups.

I have a few sites at 0:3000 but I have a lot at 1:160 or 1:340 tops.

Last year mid Sept to the end of the year I did the same traffic but only 38 signups and 2 fling.

So I would have to say that my ratio improved over this time period.

Looking at your stats I would have to agree that 1:15000 sucks. However, your site to site ratio is still about the same and last year could have been excellent with early sales and now you are on the outside of the sine-wave.

Focus on obtaining more sources of traffic. You are sending 120 to 140 hits a day. That is not a lot of hits. Things even out a lot when you are sending 400 to 500.. They get almost flat lined at 1500-2000 hits... And you can start selling prejoins at 10,000 hits because there will be no monthly fluctuation.

The bottom line is that your hits are not enough to give you a good picture.

That sums it up. I find that ND stats vary over time, I know that when they get out of whack, the statistical gods will come along and make everything right again

Have to agree that these days, just a couple hundred visitors a day doesn't cut it.

Curious, did you try emailing ND before the trash on a public board? They are big enough to take a bad comment once in awhile, but still. ND has been sending those checks for a long time, it would take a lot to chase me away.

04-21-2008, 01:38 PM	#51
nastythresh Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 137	Nastydollars here! Hey Vanbest, hit me up on ICQ: 266736716 or email [email protected] and we can go over your account. Thanks, Dan

04-21-2008, 01:57 PM	#53
Dollarmansteve Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: T.O. Posts: 2,849	I'm just curious as to what kind of "answer" you would like nasty dollars to provide? What is your implication? I work with lots of people who's traffic, for whatever reason, starts to suck. We try and tweak it.. maybe try some new / different sites, weed out some poor performers.. but ultimately.. if the ratios don't improve, then most times they will go and try someone else for a while til we have something new. It would be nice if everyone converted 1:1000 or 1:750 everyday from now til the end of time - but it's not going to happen. Your conversion ratio is unique to your traffic stream.. and if it stops performing with a site / sponsor program /etc - you just have to make the decision that's best for your business. __________________ I died.

04-21-2008, 03:06 PM	#55
tiger Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,986	Try sending the traffic to other sponsors see what happens. Couldn't be worse then what you are doing now. __________________

04-21-2008, 03:42 PM	#56
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	How can you guys make a living with ratios like that? Even 1 in 2k is pretty damn terrible... __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager

04-21-2008, 06:03 PM	#59
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04-21-2008, 01:44 PM	#52
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	ND stats are fine over here.

04-21-2008, 03:02 PM	#54
fluffygrrl So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,187	Thing is, if you're only promoting one sponsor off one website, or in general, if you're only sending the traffic stream to one single place, there's nothing you can know for sure. They could be converting 1:10, and still be skimming you 80%. They could be converting 1:100,000, and not skim you at all. The solution is to always send traffic to at the very least two similar sponsors off any site, and in a known proportion. Then you can compare their results, and then you can look at their funels, see if they leak traffic, if the pages just suck, etc. Often you'll find no leaks and nice professional funels and maybe even be 100% certain they're not shaving and yet, toilet results. It happens.

04-21-2008, 04:03 PM	#57
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	define "make a living" woj... ;)

04-22-2008, 12:13 AM	#62
xclicks Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Honkuver part of Vansterdam, Chinada Posts: 78	Hi, I can understand your frustration because my stats are quite the same with all sponsors. From 800 per month to 70 at Bang bross and from 700 to 70 at Nasty in about 16 months it is pretty obvious of what trend will follow. Overall conversion is in sponsors yard and traffic belong to webmasters. Words like oversaturated, overexposed, overadvertised and so on are still on sponsors yard and it's their job to make a site to convert almost the same all the time. Having so low conversions on my own TGPs I start working with ppc programs and makes me quite the same. I sent all new sponsors to buy ppc add place. So far they didn't cause there are a lot like you who send traffic like hell. With ppc u can have around 1-2c per click so whatever makes u less then that u should look into this. __________________ Xclicks - Free remote trading script XVideohost - post your videos and get some traffic back.