Lets Join Forces To Stop Cheating Affiliates (Program Owners/Managers Only) - GoFuckYourself.com

natkejs · 04-20-2008, 05:42 AM

Hi,

We've been working on a system for programs to share info about cheating affiliates.

If you're a program owner or manager with interest in taking part of this system please contact me at [email protected] or ICQ 3652156

This is an invite only system and only available for reputable programs.

Looking forward to hear from you.

/ Dario

MediumPimpin.com

Tanker · 04-20-2008, 05:44 AM

I will join in on this!

Jens Van Assterdam · 04-20-2008, 05:45 AM

i are god affil aidz!

Seriously, nice to see someone taking it serious! Hope your system works out

Joe BrainCash · 04-20-2008, 06:23 AM

I'll contact ou on Monday to have more detals...

pornguy · 04-20-2008, 06:27 AM

Send me the particulars about it, and I will see if we can get in.

mailman · 04-20-2008, 06:51 AM

Bump.

Reak AGV · 04-20-2008, 06:52 AM

I will send you a ICQ on Monday

natkejs · 04-20-2008, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy

Send me the particulars about it, and I will see if we can get in.

I will rather tell you some of the particulars right here as others may be interested.

At this point, when you catch a cheater you enter his info in to the system such as email, Epassporte accounts etc.

The system then cross links reports and will show if the same person (as identified by various variables) has been reported more then once.... to give the report more credibility.

You can also choose to receive email notifications whenever a new cheater is reported in the system, this way you can stay on top of the issue and disable their accounts before they hit you.

However, this system is still a baby and will be expanded but it already does the job.

Let me know if you're interested in participating.

/ D

Ditosta · 04-20-2008, 07:01 AM

Hitting you up now!

Jace · 04-20-2008, 07:02 AM

Hey, I am the accounts manager for the relaunch of PIBCash, i would love to get into the system

hehe

Tat2Jr · 04-20-2008, 07:19 AM

Email sent!

natkejs · 04-20-2008, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace

Hey, I am the accounts manager for the relaunch of PIBCash, i would love to get into the system

hehe

LOL ... I'll get to you right after Shave Bucks, patience patience my friend ;)

Pete-KT · 04-20-2008, 07:24 AM

Hit me up on icq lets talk about this

04-20-2008, 07:40 AM

thanks for the invite.

natkejs · 04-20-2008, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThumbLord

thanks for the invite.

You're welcome, just remember to activate email notifications so you will get the latest report as they come in.

Don't worry though you won't be flooded, it sends reports maximum every 4 hours at this point.

Jace · 04-20-2008, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natkejs

LOL ... I'll get to you right after Shave Bucks, patience patience my friend ;)

dude, the guy that runs shave bucks has been known to shave sales in the past, BE CAREFUL!

dissipate · 04-20-2008, 08:06 AM

I'll be contacting you

gleem · 04-20-2008, 08:30 AM

email sent... let's get a good list going we can all check against before the epass's go out

Ditosta · 04-20-2008, 08:42 AM

Great system , major bump.. Already started adding scammers

The Ghost · 04-20-2008, 08:59 AM

Just sent you an email

MediumPimpin · 04-20-2008, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ditosta

Great system , major bump.. Already started adding scammers

Thanks since it's normally the same scammers going program to program this has to help!

datatank · 04-20-2008, 09:11 AM

Cool idea but what happens when I enter all my whales so no other affiliate program will take their traffic ?

MediumPimpin · 04-20-2008, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datatank

Cool idea but what happens when I enter all my whales so no other affiliate program will take their traffic ?

We out you on all the boards for doing so

mailman · 04-20-2008, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datatank

Cool idea but what happens when I enter all my whales so no other affiliate program will take their traffic ?

That would be pretty low for you to do as most of us would be cross checking the info and we could tell that it was bogus being most cheaters all have wacky info same epass accts or you see a pattern with their sites or there would possibly come a time when that webmaster would want to know why they are banned from various programs and It would be easy to see who listed them as a cheater ;)

mailman · 04-20-2008, 01:20 PM

Bumper Cars for the Sunday Afternoon Crew!

CurrentlySober · 04-20-2008, 01:36 PM

good luck. im not a program owner, but less cheaters means more for the honest people like me...

04-20-2008, 04:14 PM

bumpage to make sure this will be on top.

natkejs · 04-20-2008, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datatank

Cool idea but what happens when I enter all my whales so no other affiliate program will take their traffic ?

There will be a dispute function, should you enter a "scammer" that I find to be a legit affiliate I would file a dispute against your report. As more and more disputes would be filed against your reports we would initiate a more in depth investigation.

Upon eliminating all reasonable doubt regarding what you're up to proper actions would be taken.

The only thing worse then scamming affiliates is scamming affiliate programs

natkejs · 04-20-2008, 07:08 PM

Also, thanks to everyone that's been showing their support so far .... it's been a great motivation

papill0n · 04-20-2008, 07:13 PM

Sounds like a great idea Dario, hitting you up now.

tony286 · 04-20-2008, 07:16 PM

thats a very good idea.

Anthony · 04-20-2008, 07:40 PM

Dario,

I'm in, will hit u up on Monday, I have a ton of cheaters from CTC, as well as known KP webmasters, etc.

BobG · 04-20-2008, 08:42 PM

bump to the top

lazzlo · 04-21-2008, 02:49 AM

i miss the trojan i had that showed cookie hijackers, it helped MP once!

Ditosta · 04-21-2008, 04:43 AM

Monday morning bump!!

O MARINA · 04-21-2008, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datatank

Cool idea but what happens when I enter all my whales so no other affiliate program will take their traffic ?

lol.......

Paper_Amar · 04-21-2008, 08:04 AM

Dropped you an icq, would like to hear more about this

natkejs · 04-21-2008, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paper_Amar

Dropped you an icq, would like to hear more about this

I did not get your message, should I blame trillian?

To the others that's been in touch invites will go out shortly

PornGeneral · 04-21-2008, 09:29 AM

Program Managers,

I am not to sure about the perticulars to this system and how it is setup but I would caution you on unarbitrarily or automatically withholding payment or disabling accounts which are listed by others in any "blacklist" type system. It would possibly be more prudent to just request the listed affiliate to provide more identification information or flag for further account review. Sounds like if a program manager has any issue with an affiliate outside the realm of cheating they could cause serious harm to a legitimate person. There is a reason stores don't anymore post in public bad check writers but report them to national databases which are government by laws like the Fair Credit Reporting Act allowing consumers rights to dispute and privacy.

PG

Kenny B! · 04-21-2008, 09:48 AM

I'm game sounds like a great idea

natkejs · 04-21-2008, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornGeneral

Program Managers,

I am not to sure about the perticulars to this system and how it is setup but I would caution you on unarbitrarily or automatically withholding payment or disabling accounts which are listed by others in any "blacklist" type system. It would possibly be more prudent to just request the listed affiliate to provide more identification information or flag for further account review. Sounds like if a program manager has any issue with an affiliate outside the realm of cheating they could cause serious harm to a legitimate person. There is a reason stores don't anymore post in public bad check writers but report them to national databases which are government by laws like the Fair Credit Reporting Act allowing consumers rights to dispute and privacy.

PG

Yep, I agree.

Reports to a system like this should be considered a heads up rather then a ruling.
This is why we will also add functions such as verify / dispute etc.

However, if you get a heads up and you find the affiliate in your program with a 1:1 ratio on PPS with no referrer info then it's pretty obvious what's going on.

In the end, everyone has to think for themselves.
That's why we call it a "Neighbourhood Watch" and not a "Neighbourhood Police".

Thanks for your input

PornGeneral · 04-21-2008, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natkejs

Yep, I agree.

Reports to a system like this should be considered a heads up rather then a ruling.
This is why we will also add functions such as verify / dispute etc.

However, if you get a heads up and you find the affiliate in your program with a 1:1 ratio on PPS with no referrer info then it's pretty obvious what's going on.

In the end, everyone has to think for themselves.
That's why we call it a "Neighbourhood Watch" and not a "Neighbourhood Police".

Thanks for your input

Great reply, glad to see you are considering all the possibilities and are open to "Request for Comments". ;)

kmanrox · 04-21-2008, 10:06 AM

bumps for a great idea...

nation-x · 04-21-2008, 10:16 AM

kind of funny coming from someone who just got busted with magically disappearing referrals because of an "htaccess accident"

natkejs · 04-21-2008, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nation-x

kind of funny coming from someone who just got busted with magically disappearing referrals because of an "htaccess accident"

How do you consider me openly explaining what happen, taking the blame and offering credits as "being busted" ?

Should I have tried to deny it or blame it on something else I could see where you're coming though.

seeric · 04-21-2008, 10:27 AM

i'd use this. this past week alone i caught two assholes attempting to defraud us using trustcash. preloading accounts with stolen credit cards and then buying memberships through their affil ids in trust cash.

they both got shit canned.

MediumPimpin · 04-21-2008, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nation-x

kind of funny coming from someone who just got busted with magically disappearing referrals because of an "htaccess accident"

You have to be kidding me, shit happens man, we offered full credits to anyone affected for the two weeks on one site.

Was just looking at the site in your Sig, http://www.artgps.com/program.php

Every link 404's, all of has issues with sites.

No one is perfect, it's how its handled in the end that matters.

natkejs · 04-21-2008, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MediumPimpin

Was just looking at the site in your Sig, http://www.artgps.com/program.php

Every link 404's, all of has issues with sites.

those are some great hosted galleries

MediumPimpin · 04-21-2008, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natkejs

those are some great hosted galleries

Shit happens like I said, I bet it's a "htaccess accident"

natkejs · 04-21-2008, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K

i'd use this. this past week alone i caught two assholes attempting to defraud us using trustcash. preloading accounts with stolen credit cards and then buying memberships through their affil ids in trust cash.

they both got shit canned.

damn that's a new one... they sure are making an effort to stay one step ahead of us.

which again is why cooperating should help

04-20-2008, 05:42 AM	#1
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ThumbLord Guest Posts: n/a	thanks for the invite.

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ThumbLord Guest Posts: n/a	bumpage to make sure this will be on top.

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04-20-2008, 07:13 PM	#30
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	Sounds like a great idea Dario, hitting you up now.

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	thats a very good idea.

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Anthony Keyboard Warrior Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: One of the outer rings of Hell Posts: 9,653	Dario, I'm in, will hit u up on Monday, I have a ton of cheaters from CTC, as well as known KP webmasters, etc. __________________

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PornGeneral Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In front of computer Posts: 564	Program Managers, I am not to sure about the perticulars to this system and how it is setup but I would caution you on unarbitrarily or automatically withholding payment or disabling accounts which are listed by others in any "blacklist" type system. It would possibly be more prudent to just request the listed affiliate to provide more identification information or flag for further account review. Sounds like if a program manager has any issue with an affiliate outside the realm of cheating they could cause serious harm to a legitimate person. There is a reason stores don't anymore post in public bad check writers but report them to national databases which are government by laws like the Fair Credit Reporting Act allowing consumers rights to dispute and privacy. PG __________________ "The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his." -Patton "Only the dead have seen the end of war." -Plato

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04-21-2008, 10:27 AM	#46
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	i'd use this. this past week alone i caught two assholes attempting to defraud us using trustcash. preloading accounts with stolen credit cards and then buying memberships through their affil ids in trust cash. they both got shit canned.