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So if you did a shoot for me and I was not happy and after getting all the raw files I ask for a refund you will give me one? Even though you know that I will use the files you have giving me...? |
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04-22-2008, 04:06 PM
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If someone gives me a good price on something, I expect no frills and maybe less personable service, not poor quality.
For a premium price on something, it is the opposite. If you are comparing apples to apples, though, the issue should be more on how they are served and less on whether one is rotted. I think we'd all have to see what the Flash looks like to have a sense of it. For a lower price, I think a client should expect less animation, maybe less original art, but not low quality.
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04-22-2008, 04:07 PM
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04-22-2008, 04:15 PM
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Designer just logged on for the day and here is what he has to say about this...
Ken2: what!? Ken2: really? Ken2: http://twinkguy.com/tour02.htm Ken2: that one is also pixelated Ken2: besides if i made them any better in quality the filesize would reach 1mb or higher Ken2: it's a 20 second clip Ken2: that would load like forever on some people's connection Ken2: and the colors look fine on my screen, do they look different on your screen? |
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04-22-2008, 04:17 PM
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04-22-2008, 04:22 PM
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http://barelylegalguys.com/tour1up.htm Page 2
http://barelylegalguys.com/tour2up.htm The four flash pieces you see on them two pages are what we did for a hundred bucks... |
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04-22-2008, 04:25 PM
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This thread has a lot of stupid ass replies in it.. a lot of you people who are saying "why are you bitching about $100, get over it!" have posted similar threads over the years.. and don't act like you have not..
Funny shit.. The hypocrisy knows no bounds!
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04-22-2008, 04:28 PM
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Not sure why anyone would do poor quality work for any price. You are judged by your portfolio, by the work you have done, if someone sees crappy work then they will not contact you for work. Simple as that. You need to take the loss and redo them, or return his money.
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04-22-2008, 04:30 PM
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Ken2: he must either have an ancient crt monitor or he's really meticulous
Ken2: he exported a different set of slices there Ken2: not my slices Ken2: that is why they don't match in color Ken2: and that is not our problem anymore, their fault Ken2: they must be using different color profile in photoshop Ken2: i'm using web standard srgb profile |
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04-22-2008, 04:35 PM
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I have already tooken a loss by having this done a second time.... I pay my designers no matter what... So I had to pay twice for this project which put my cost of having it done over what he paid, I am more then willing to pay for it to be done a third time also... But this guy wants to do nothing but act like a child on the matter! |
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04-22-2008, 04:36 PM
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04-22-2008, 04:42 PM
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04-22-2008, 04:44 PM
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Can't blame the guy for being pissed at you and wanting his $$$ back - I'm pretty damn sure that he wouldn't use them if you refunded him in full, and told him he could still use them. Your company should really stay away from flash until you learn how to use it...  ADG |
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04-22-2008, 04:53 PM
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I am not a designer or Flash expert but I do know about encoding video including to flv, and the quality of the flash video I see there would be unacceptable to me. It could be tweaked to make it a lot less pixelated. Something about that has to be tweaked and that doesn't cost money per se. Unless the source video is crap, then it's the designers fault. |
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04-22-2008, 04:54 PM
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The guy wanted a hundred dollar job... The same designer that did his flash did the header on affordablesitedesign.com, you can see by that header and all the movements he has skills... But he is not going to spend a day a piece on flash pieces he is not getting paid to spend a day a piece on... |
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04-22-2008, 04:58 PM
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Screen your clients it will give you way less head aches.
1: Can they afford you? 2: Can you deliver what they expect? 3: Is it really worth your time? 4: Does the potential client have a good grasp of what they want? Do those 4 things with anyone that hits you up with business. They miss one, refer the work out. I actually decline over 80% of people wanting me to design for them. Of those 80% they act all insulted and bust attitudes once figuring out I do not want to work with them... Which pretty much indicates to me I made the right decision. My system works.
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04-22-2008, 05:00 PM
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30 seconds in I say I'm not interested..... They wonder why.... I don't care. -Ben
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04-22-2008, 05:01 PM
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I wouldn't do a job if it meant compromising my normal quality/finish level.
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04-22-2008, 05:03 PM
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The source files can be found here http://barelylegalguys.com/flashguys.htm The quality of the wmv that were the source were good quality... My designer can and will fix the issue... Client will not communicate with me on the matter... He has two choices here... Video can be cut from 20 secs to say 10 secs Or the next setting would make it 1mb or more, right now it is compressed to 600kb... So if he wants the page to load slow we can beef up the file.. No issue! |
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04-22-2008, 05:04 PM
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Oh btw.... If you're not aware....
_quality = "best"; in your actionscript. -Ben
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04-22-2008, 05:04 PM
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1: People that expect work to be finished before Payment. Tell em to fuck off and referr em to someone that does not mind those terms. 2: Stick with what you know, do not extend beyond your knowledge just to make money. 9 times out of 10 you will be sorry. These are just things I stick to and live by. Everyone handles thier business differently though some work for less, some for more.
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04-22-2008, 05:05 PM
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Thank you Alien, I will use your formula on that matter... I like it! |
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04-22-2008, 05:09 PM
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What you got by not refunding? 1. A state of mind, little anger - cost: $100+ 2. Wasted an hour in a cheap ass thread like this .. and would probably waste some more time, once that client comes here - cost: $100+ 3. A handful of little skeptical clients - cost: a handful of hundreds. 4. Even if you didn't get bad name to your company, you still got something not good - cost a couple thousand bucks, or more. Now, if you would have refunded him. And then started this thread telling us story that some broke fuck wasted your 3-4 hours .. received original files, and then said he is not satisfied with the quality of work .. so you refunded him $100 because you didn't want an unhappy customer. And then told us that, our satisfaction is what your company is all about. Trust me, you would have got at least 4-5 replies in thread saying, Clark, hit me up .. I have some work for you. Jon, I need some banners done, talk to me on ICQ. etc ... and probably 2-3 orders. Well, its your business .. you chosen what you wanted for it.
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04-22-2008, 05:14 PM
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04-22-2008, 06:55 PM
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Jon you are such a tryhard.
Your not hunting for work ? yeah right, you are so full of shit. |
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04-22-2008, 07:38 PM
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i see the guy's thread, its $130 not $100 and complaining for 14 hrs work for 2-4 hrs work agreement
lesson of the day: stay away from a designer who are "you got what you pay for" |
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04-22-2008, 07:46 PM
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The price was $100... Show us where it said any different? |
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04-22-2008, 07:54 PM
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04-22-2008, 08:00 PM
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Nice fake nick you have here... You knew in advance that you would get $100 worth of work, you failed to give me all details the first round, so when the first drafts where not correct at your own fault we were nice enough to do it all over again to meet your needs... I am sorry we could not make you happy, there is a first time for everything... We gave you what we could for what you paid, I am sorry you expected more, and if you would have contacted me like a gentelman I would have had the designer do it a third time... But instead you send me a book by email telling me how you really felt, I tried to calm you down, but you would not stop and be a gentelman for two minute so I could handle your problem... Again, I am sorry... I am done with this subject! |
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04-22-2008, 08:04 PM
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that's bonkers. What could you have done to give a better quality clip? Worthy of increasing your cost to him? I don't even see why the quality was soo low.. I can see the quality being destroyed by being put on an angle like that.. but not to the point you have them saved out... Unless the quality of the source was extremely low.. Refund him the $100.. To people on smaller budgets money is more important.. And we both know how long you likely spent on the work... You didn't *earn* that $100.. Use good business ethics.. even if you think you are right it will hurt you in the long run..
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04-22-2008, 08:16 PM
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He wanted the video on its side like that btw... This job was done to his specs...! I have tried to reach him on ICQ to make arrangements to satisfy his issues, but he has not reponded.. |
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04-22-2008, 08:56 PM
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He went bizerk because he felt like you were washing your hands of him. Leaving him with clips he can't use and $100 poorer. The way you communicated with him likely lead to this.. On a side note.. No reason why the clips should have been 20 seconds long especially with how boring they are.. The clip on the posted tour are originally 5 seconds long..
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I'd love to know what this project was exactly?
Sounds like.. Take photoshop slice import to flash, encode video to flv, layer flv behind slice, export to swf. repeat 4x. That should take an hour? $100/hour sounds good to me?
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I had said nothing to him today before he went bizzerk, the last thing I communicated to the guy was a email sending him files and I will quote, Quote:
He had no reason to feel we would not do it again because we actually already done it twice... In the directions he gives he never says he wants page to be 1024 wide... And he did not give us the full psd, it was his lack of directions that caused problem one, but I fixed it at no extra charge for him.. |
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The first day my designer spent 5 hours and the second day he spend 7 hours doing the job twice for this guy, we were willing to go the extra mile and make him happy, but he flipped out on me before he even talked to me by email, by thread and by icq... I started my day to this guy flipping his wig... lol And you will not let it rest so I will end my day with this shit... |
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04-22-2008, 09:17 PM
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That work order doesn't make any sense and why does it discuss text changes?
The project was more than just updating those small clips in the player window? Ahh doesn't matter.. I give up.. you are both in the wrong
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Those examples sucked cock.
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if you got upfront money for work and started - do your work untill your customer will be happy!
this was happen with you cose you are not professional in taking details from customer. Ask 1000+ questions before you'll say "yes" and will name a price, or work with per hour payment. You wanted fast bucks for easy work, but live gave you pain in ass ;) |
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As far as running my business'... I now own two design companies and I am having no problems at all...  This thread is over folks... And the issue was resolved... Back then.... So let it go! |
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The client went to the board first.. I tried everything I could to make him happy.. He was just one of them people that are not easy to work with and flipped out when I showed him drafts versus tell me what he liked and did not like... In the end he apoligized to me for not being level headed in the situation and it is all resolved.. I don't even know why this thread was bumped.. Ask any of my clients what it is like to deal with me on there projects.. You will find out I am one of the best when it comes to handling your design orders and getting things done the right way and on time! |
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