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Old 05-07-2008, 03:05 AM   #1
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are tube sites good or bad?

are tube sites good or bad?

will they shut the net down due to bandwith.

plus with these sites why would you sign up to a paysite when these sites you get far more free.
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:14 AM   #2
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depends what you're watching on them I guess... Personally I feel producers that are giving away 5+ minute clips are shooting themselves in the foot. No one really gives a shit about the other 45 minutes of the scene, what hasn't the customer seen?

Lots of non adult type stuff on youtube that is fun to watch though.
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:58 AM   #3
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Well, something is destroying this business right now... if it's the tube sites I don't know
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Old 05-07-2008, 04:07 AM   #4
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tube sites are good..
we use 'tube system' and we have very good ratio
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Old 05-07-2008, 04:27 AM   #5
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The tube sites are a natural evolution of the web. Like them or not, they're there.

The legal sites should convert well imho.
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Old 05-07-2008, 04:28 AM   #6
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im my ipinion as long as they do not steal content they are good
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Old 05-07-2008, 04:30 AM   #7
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tube sites with teaser videos are ok, and are no diferent to mgp's but anything over 1-2 minutes is too much free porn
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Old 05-07-2008, 04:59 AM   #8
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illegal tube sites = bad
legal tube sites = good

illegal = not having permission to use content

www.TiavasTube.com is a good tube site
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:30 AM   #9
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Tubes are profitable if you run them legally and correctly.
I'v seen some shockers and some that will blow your mind.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:26 AM   #10
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Most Mgps used to have three to four little clips of ten seconds each. Why move away from giving away more than 40 second clips - two minutes plus is too much IMO.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:36 AM   #11
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Tube socks are all the rage.
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:06 AM   #12
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i like them :P
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:06 AM   #13
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I use my Tube site smart.
Only very short clips, max 45 Seconds.
And 195.000 movies loaded already.

The sponsors who use Tube sites shoot in the foot of the affiliates.
But what is their slogan again? Oohh yeah.. i remember, become your own biggest affiliate.

tube sites owned by sponsors, to create in house traffic and make our job useless, those are the baddest ones. My thats just my opinion. Seems people hate me for this statement, but those are the ones who run a tube site.

A few sponsors anticipate on this, and make affiliates part of their tube site, a nice % on the banners with PID implemented etc etc etc... those get my compliments!!
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:19 AM   #14
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Most Mgps used to have three to four little clips of ten seconds each. Why move away from giving away more than 40 second clips - two minutes plus is too much IMO.

Because webmasters are greedy and things will never change!!!!!
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Old 05-14-2008, 03:39 PM   #15
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Old 05-14-2008, 03:43 PM   #16
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tubes are great, and ive made a ton of money developing them.
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:40 PM   #17
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illegal tube sites = bad
legal tube sites = good

illegal = not having permission to use content

www.TiavasTube.com is a good tube site
Yeas Tiavas rocks

Lets setup a trade with my legal tube. email = cubs at broncs dot net
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:50 PM   #18
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Yeas Tiavas rocks

Lets setup a trade with my legal tube. email = cubs at broncs dot net
if you want to trade with mine let me know
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Old 05-14-2008, 06:22 PM   #19
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A large portion of my income comes from tubes, and longer than 2 minute clips. I can convert tube traffic with longer than 2 minute clips at roughly 1/2 the ratio as mgp movie galleries. It's not how long the sample you give way is, it's how much teasing you can do with it.
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Old 05-14-2008, 07:29 PM   #20
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Old 05-14-2008, 08:15 PM   #21
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tubes are great, and ive made a ton of money developing them.
And a few bucks skinning them too I would think. :D
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Old 05-14-2008, 08:52 PM   #23
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The tube sites are a natural evolution of the web. Like them or not, they're there.
So the "evolution of the web" is to give away everything for free?

If someone can explain how the business model of the tube sites isn't going to be all about aff and flings ads? The tube sites are about selling advertising, not about generating joins.
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Old 05-14-2008, 09:07 PM   #24
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are tube sites good or bad?

will they shut the net down due to bandwith.

plus with these sites why would you sign up to a paysite when these sites you get far more free.
everything is good if you know how to make money from it and are creative enough to turn something into a money making machine.
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Make your own traffic and tube sites doesn't matter!
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So the "evolution of the web" is to give away everything for free?

If someone can explain how the business model of the tube sites isn't going to be all about aff and flings ads? The tube sites are about selling advertising, not about generating joins.
Just because _you_ can't create joins on tube site traffic doesn't mean it can't be done.
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Old 05-15-2008, 04:08 AM   #27
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Just because _you_ can't create joins on tube site traffic doesn't mean it can't be done.
I am not involved in that bullshit.

So having gigs of 3+ minute 'clips' that are immediately/instantaneously viewable (via flash) is a good thing?

Are you saying the redtube, tube8, etc are all about creating joins? From the beginning they were about creating joins? Even the 'legal' tube sites don't make sense to me. So they get permission from the content owner to put clips up, then on the page where the video is played, the page is completely littered with aff, fling, sexsearch, some chat widget and 15 other distractions. Is it really about joins?

I just don't understand the business model. It's about selling advertisements, not making joins.
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I am not involved in that bullshit.

So having gigs of 3+ minute 'clips' that are immediately/instantaneously viewable (via flash) is a good thing?

Are you saying the redtube, tube8, etc are all about creating joins? From the beginning they were about creating joins? Even the 'legal' tube sites don't make sense to me. So they get permission from the content owner to put clips up, then on the page where the video is played, the page is completely littered with aff, fling, sexsearch, some chat widget and 15 other distractions. Is it really about joins?

I just don't understand the business model. It's about selling advertisements, not making joins.
Yes..that is what hes saying...You fool.
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there was a guy in here yesterday doing pretty well with industrial grade tube supply.
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I am not involved in that bullshit.

So having gigs of 3+ minute 'clips' that are immediately/instantaneously viewable (via flash) is a good thing?

Are you saying the redtube, tube8, etc are all about creating joins? From the beginning they were about creating joins? Even the 'legal' tube sites don't make sense to me. So they get permission from the content owner to put clips up, then on the page where the video is played, the page is completely littered with aff, fling, sexsearch, some chat widget and 15 other distractions. Is it really about joins?

I just don't understand the business model. It's about selling advertisements, not making joins.
You obviously haven't visited a real legal tube site yet

Legal tube sites try to sell the paysite
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Tubes are profitable if you run them legally and correctly.
I'v seen some shockers and some that will blow your mind.
Care to post some of the mindblowing ones? I'd love to see them.

I've got some ideas for some interesting tube sites. Just not sure how I can actually get traffic to them.

There seems to be a proliferation of legal tube sites lately. At the same time the illegal ones seem to be pulling back slightly. I'd say tube sites are bad but that makes me a hypocrit - 5 years ago the enemy was still TGP!
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depends what you're watching on them I guess... Personally I feel producers that are giving away 5+ minute clips are shooting themselves in the foot. No one really gives a shit about the other 45 minutes of the scene, what hasn't the customer seen?
Exactly.


If the scene's good. I need about 45 seconds to jerk off and cum. Who gives a fuck about the other 45 min.
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They are conditioning people to expect free porn, which is never a good thing.
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