Collected User Information... What can be made "Public"? - GoFuckYourself.com

Voodoo · 05-07-2008, 11:18 PM

If you own a site that users register on and pay you. You can collect a fairly significant amount of information about this person.

First Name
Last Name
Email
Street Address
City, State, Zip
Phone
Username
Password
IP Address
etc...

How much of this information is considered "Private"? What I'm getting at is, what information is "forbidden" to post in public areas deemed under privacy laws? What info is Fair Game?

Inquiring Minds Want To Know.

Fight This Chargeback.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-07-2008, 11:34 PM

Umm none of it.

ProjectNaked · 05-07-2008, 11:41 PM

all of it!

just send your records over tomorrow

Voodoo · 05-07-2008, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Umm none of it.

So, posting someone's username & IP address is a NoNo?

Voodoo · 05-07-2008, 11:45 PM

Here's the pieces of info I'm interested in:
Username
First / Last
IP Address
City & State

munki · 05-07-2008, 11:51 PM

What is your public privacy policy for the site... there in lies your answer.

Any information you've let people know you will be collecting, and might possibly make public or use in various manners... well you get the picture.

budz · 05-07-2008, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munki

What is your public privacy policy for the site... there in lies your answer.

Any information you've let people know you will be collecting, and might possibly make public or use in various manners... well you get the picture.

ding ding ding we have a winnar

Voodoo · 05-07-2008, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munki

What is your public privacy policy for the site... there in lies your answer.

Any information you've let people know you will be collecting, and might possibly make public or use in various manners... well you get the picture.

So, if I tell them, that I will share their billing and contact information with the public, I can post it anywhere I wish?

budz · 05-07-2008, 11:57 PM

lol @ this privacy policy i made years ago

Quote:

Privacy Policy
We have created this sites privacy policy to demonstrate our firm commitment to your insecurity and the total unacknowledged invasion of your privacy. This is the patriot act 2 of privacy policies. Honest, it's for your own good, trust us !

Cookies
We like cookies
Especially big fresh cookies
We give cookies, we take cookies, analyze cookie makeup and content. Learn your on line habits to serve you ads to increase our revenue, among other top secret proprietary techniques, backed by billionaires everywhere.

Sharing and Usage
We will try our best to share, sell, or rent individual personal information to anyone without your advance permission, thats right it don't even have to be ordered by a court of law. Information submitted to us is only available to lord knows who. We manage this information for purposes of profiting off of you. By accessing this site you give budzsack.com and its owners and affiliates permission to spam you, conduct sneak and peek searches of your computer, monitor your emails, chats, ims, web cams, use your computer resources for our own needs, and anything else on your computer or around it that we want for periods of 15 days without prior notification for periods up to infinity as long as you don't find out.

How can you stop this policy from taking effect
Simple you can't
As you read this we are probably probing your computer and brain while trying to squeeze money out of you! Resistance is futile we are the new world disorder. All your base are belong to us! Knowing is half the battle.

Privacy Policy Changes
This policy was created years before you read it.

munki · 05-08-2008, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voodoo

So, if I tell them, that I will share their billing and contact information with the public, I can post it anywhere I wish?

I wouldn't go throwing cc numbers into the wind or anything, but if you've made it public policy... you are free to do as you let people know you are doing, (double checks in head real quick... i think that made sense) if they willingly gave you information.

munki · 05-08-2008, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budz

lol @ this privacy policy i made years ago

I think your privacy policy just made me cum a lil...

wootpr0n · 05-08-2008, 12:03 AM

All of it is private and cannot be disclosed without a valid court order.

The only exception is that you can disclose this information to law enforcement without a subpoena if you say that you will in your Privacy Policy.

As you are certainly aware, the vast majority of your visitors do not read your Privacy Policy or Terms of Service. If you tell your users that you will disclose all of their personal information and then do it, you will likely NOT get away with it. This is because a Court is likely to consider such a provision invalid and unreasonable in light of privacy laws and the general expectation of privacy.

First Name/Last Name/Address/Phone seem like information that may be in a telephone book, most of which are accessible/searchable online. But some people have opted-out of telephone book listings. Moreover, such a disclosure in connection with your website provides a second link, and that would be unacceptable. It's no longer a listing of "this person's information", but "this person's information and this person uses this site". This could also bring up defamation suits - how many people want the world to know that they are paying for porn?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voodoo

If you own a site that users register on and pay you. You can collect a fairly significant amount of information about this person.

First Name
Last Name
Email
Street Address
City, State, Zip
Phone
Username
Password
IP Address
etc...

How much of this information is considered "Private"? What I'm getting at is, what information is "forbidden" to post in public areas deemed under privacy laws? What info is Fair Game?

Inquiring Minds Want To Know.

Fight This Chargeback.

Voodoo · 05-08-2008, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wootpr0n

All of it is private and cannot be disclosed without a valid court order.

The only exception is that you can disclose this information to law enforcement without a subpoena if you say that you will in your Privacy Policy.

As you are certainly aware, the vast majority of your visitors do not read your Privacy Policy or Terms of Service. If you tell your users that you will disclose all of their personal information and then do it, you will likely NOT get away with it. This is because a Court is likely to consider such a provision invalid and unreasonable in light of privacy laws and the general expectation of privacy.

First Name/Last Name/Address/Phone seem like information that may be in a telephone book, most of which are accessible/searchable online. But some people have opted-out of telephone book listings. Moreover, such a disclosure in connection with your website provides a second link, and that would be unacceptable. It's no longer a listing of "this person's information", but "this person's information and this person uses this site". This could also bring up defamation suits - how many people want the world to know that they are paying for porn?

I'm only interested in:
First Name
Last Name
Username
City / State
IP Address

kesha1 · 05-08-2008, 12:07 AM

Interesting question, but we really have an access to a lot of private info!
I wonder, if a site is hacked, would you still be responible for all that private data?

05-07-2008, 11:18 PM	#1
Voodoo ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 10,592	Collected User Information... What can be made "Public"? If you own a site that users register on and pay you. You can collect a fairly significant amount of information about this person. First Name Last Name Email Street Address City, State, Zip Phone Username Password IP Address etc... How much of this information is considered "Private"? What I'm getting at is, what information is "forbidden" to post in public areas deemed under privacy laws? What info is Fair Game? Inquiring Minds Want To Know. Fight This Chargeback. __________________ "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

05-07-2008, 11:34 PM	#2
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05-07-2008, 11:45 PM	#5
Voodoo ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 10,592	Here's the pieces of info I'm interested in: Username First / Last IP Address City & State __________________ "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

05-07-2008, 11:51 PM	#6
munki Do Fun Shit. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OC Posts: 13,393	What is your public privacy policy for the site... there in lies your answer. Any information you've let people know you will be collecting, and might possibly make public or use in various manners... well you get the picture. __________________ “I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

05-08-2008, 12:07 AM	#14
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05-07-2008, 11:41 PM	#3
ProjectNaked Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Detroit Areola Posts: 4,309	all of it! just send your records over tomorrow