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Old 05-12-2008, 07:05 PM   #1
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The Wonder Years

I recently finished watching season I and season II of one of my all time favorite shows, The Wonder Years, and it struck me as fascinating how many of the issues on war discussed during the early stages of the show concerning the war in Vietnam are still discussed and argued today in the United States, only about the current war and state of the government.

There is one episode in particular when Kevin´s older sister brings home her boyfriend, a hippie, and he has dinner with her family. One thing leads to another and soon enough they are talking about the Vietnam war. The boyfriend of course is opposed to the war and thinks many young people are dying in vain. The father, a veteran from the Korea, states that "dying for freedom and democracy" is not dying for nothing, and that these things are worth fighting for. He responds by saying that the only people who believe this war is about "democracy and freedom" are those who have been brainwashed by the government and media. The discussion goes back and forth and it is truly amazing how today, more than 30 years after the war and approximately 17 years after the season was filmed, people are still arguing over the same issues.

Without a doubt one of the most thought-provocing shows ever created.
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Old 05-12-2008, 08:40 PM   #2
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It would be nice if it came to dvd sometime. I used to love that show.
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Great show. Just imdb'ed it recently to see what happened to the stars of it.
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I wanted to get with Winnie so Fing bad when I was a kid.
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:56 PM   #6
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Danica McKellar is a San Diego native! Plus she has a BS in Mathematics from UCLA. Girl is not only beautiful but she has some brains!

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She did a sexy shoot for STUFF - shes not our little Winnie anymore....



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I recently finished watching season I and season II of one of my all time favorite shows, The Wonder Years, and it struck me as fascinating how many of the issues on war discussed during the early stages of the show concerning the war in Vietnam are still discussed and argued today in the United States, only about the current war and state of the government.

There is one episode in particular when Kevin´s older sister brings home her boyfriend, a hippie, and he has dinner with her family. One thing leads to another and soon enough they are talking about the Vietnam war. The boyfriend of course is opposed to the war and thinks many young people are dying in vain. The father, a veteran from the Korea, states that "dying for freedom and democracy" is not dying for nothing, and that these things are worth fighting for. He responds by saying that the only people who believe this war is about "democracy and freedom" are those who have been brainwashed by the government and media. The discussion goes back and forth and it is truly amazing how today, more than 30 years after the war and approximately 17 years after the season was filmed, people are still arguing over the same issues.

Without a doubt one of the most thought-provocing shows ever created.
It's amazing how little people learn from history. When you give the Vietnam example, both the French and American versions, I hear defenders of Iraq pt.II say, 'well that was different, that was then this is now'. 20 years from now it won't look so different and the next bullshit war people will say the same thing.

I'd like to thank the creators of The Wonder Years for putting some civilized thoughts into my head all the while entertaining me. It was a great show.
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One of my favorite shows growing up! I thought Winnie was super hot! I wanted to do a 3-way with Kevin and Winnie! Danica is actually a Mathematician and is really cool.

This is a pic from a B film I did and the guy that played Doug Porter on the WY's was in a few scenes with me. That's him in the pic. He did it as a favor to the director and is really funny and amazing actor.

I loved The Wonder Years! Thanks for bringing back such fond memories!
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It's amazing how little people learn from history. When you give the Vietnam example, both the French and American versions, I hear defenders of Iraq pt.II say, 'well that was different, that was then this is now'. 20 years from now it won't look so different and the next bullshit war people will say the same thing.

I'd like to thank the creators of The Wonder Years for putting some civilized thoughts into my head all the while entertaining me. It was a great show.
My thoughts exactly.
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I recently finished watching season I and season II of one of my all time favorite shows, The Wonder Years, and it struck me as fascinating how many of the issues on war discussed during the early stages of the show concerning the war in Vietnam are still discussed and argued today in the United States, only about the current war and state of the government.

There is one episode in particular when Kevin´s older sister brings home her boyfriend, a hippie, and he has dinner with her family. One thing leads to another and soon enough they are talking about the Vietnam war. The boyfriend of course is opposed to the war and thinks many young people are dying in vain. The father, a veteran from the Korea, states that "dying for freedom and democracy" is not dying for nothing, and that these things are worth fighting for. He responds by saying that the only people who believe this war is about "democracy and freedom" are those who have been brainwashed by the government and media. The discussion goes back and forth and it is truly amazing how today, more than 30 years after the war and approximately 17 years after the season was filmed, people are still arguing over the same issues.

Without a doubt one of the most thought-provocing shows ever created.
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Wow Winnie is all growns up now...watched the show as a kid she was hot then glad to see her still looking hot 4 stuff
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One of mine too.
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I loved Winnie Cooper..........I looked hard and long for a girl that looked just like her.
Finally found her Senior year in High School. Soon she moved to Santa Barbra and that was the end of that. Great Show
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It's amazing how little people learn from history. When you give the Vietnam example, both the French and American versions, I hear defenders of Iraq pt.II say, 'well that was different, that was then this is now'. 20 years from now it won't look so different and the next bullshit war people will say the same thing.

I'd like to thank the creators of The Wonder Years for putting some civilized thoughts into my head all the while entertaining me. It was a great show.

The only post on this entire thread to talk about the real subject.
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I clicked on this thread assuming that someone would post Danica pics. I assumed right. I saw her speak about her book once. Shes a nerd, i love it.
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Congrats, you're the first idiot I ever put on ignore.
My first as well. Alteast Minusonebit had something to offer. This guy is just hatefull, racist, annoying, and disgusting all at the same time.
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My first as well. Alteast Minusonebit had something to offer. This guy is just hatefull, racist, annoying, and disgusting all at the same time.
You think it's true he could be AlienQ?
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My guess would be nofx.

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The one they said is Marilyn Manson?
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If you like the Wonder Years you should watch Aliens in America (if you haven't already). Fred Savage has directed some of the episodes. It's like Wonder Years meets (the movie) Election; funny, mildly provocative, timely, entertaining.

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ROFL...

Yeah. He's not.
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