why ccbill doesn't make epass payment solution? - GoFuckYourself.com

rednet · 05-14-2008, 07:18 PM

just wonder why so big processor like ccbill with an affiliate program doesn't make the epass payments still?

i am sure it is not a problem for ccbill to create that option also,
it would save much time and money of people who work with ccbill sites and make more popularity to ccbill services

paychecks are very slow, wire transfers take much money by fees (especially when sending them here and there to pay affiliates then)

actually epass is an industry standard already and everyone is using it... so why not to do a favour to ccbill webmasters and affiliates and make their life little easier?

would be nice to hear the opinion of ccbill and webmasters who work with it

BVF · 05-14-2008, 07:20 PM

I don't even want ccbill to make epass a payment solution anymore....Fuck that shit...

rednet · 05-14-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF

I don't even want ccbill to make epass a payment solution anymore....Fuck that shit...

why is that?

did i miss the discussion of it?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-14-2008, 07:24 PM

Thats a long story...

scottybuzz · 05-14-2008, 07:25 PM

ohhh boy i may be pissed out my face right now. but any serious payment should not be done via epass, but be done by check.

marketsmart · 05-14-2008, 07:25 PM

they are too busy counting all their money to waste time with that shit...

rednet · 05-14-2008, 07:27 PM

well... it's the right of every webmaster, to use epass or not.. but having an epass as an option is very usefull... someone loves checks, someone else loves epass..

rednet · 05-14-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

they are too busy counting all their money to waste time with that shit...

more useful options attract more webmasters and make their money mountain bigger actually... we have lots of affiliates who are pissed of ccbill checks and dream of epass solution

garce · 05-14-2008, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rednet

more useful options attract more webmasters and make their money mountain bigger actually... we have lots of affiliates who are pissed of ccbill checks and dream of epass solution

You're not from around these parts, are you?

ProjectNaked · 05-14-2008, 08:23 PM

epass charges for every fucking thing and seems to constantly raise rates. I avoid them at all cost and have passed on deals with people when they said they would only accept epass.

The real question is why is there no direct deposit - answer: ccbill would lose truckloads of money from un-cashed checks.

CyberHustler · 05-14-2008, 08:25 PM

I thought someone from CCBill created epassporte after receiving a message from Allah himself who appeard before him in the form of a British UFO...

rowan · 05-14-2008, 11:39 PM

Cheques and wires are provided by a bank. Epass is not a bank, it's just a third party company that happens to shift money around.

Barefootsies · 05-14-2008, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ProjectNaked

epass charges for every fucking thing and seems to constantly raise rates. I avoid them at all cost and have passed on deals with people when they said they would only accept epass.

The real question is why is there no direct deposit - answer: ccbill would lose truckloads of money from un-cashed checks.

Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

This has been asked a million times over the years, including threads where CCB people are posting. There has never been an answer to why ACH is not offered. But the reasons are pretty clear...

uncashed checks.
additional wire fees.
= profit

As for epass,... with all the threads on this board alone with complaints about epass, their customer service, etc. Why would ANY company really wanna get tangled up in that mess. Which doesn't even get into the homeland security, and epass/gambling red flags.

Eliminating, or not having, epass as an option is simple, common, business sense.

DWB · 05-15-2008, 12:41 AM

Because epass is a fucking mess and CCbill (who has their shit together) doesn't want to have to deal with their shit.

longdongsilver · 05-15-2008, 08:34 AM

I think it would be good if webmaster could choose if they wanted to get paid in epass or not.

Also years ago in the ccbill control panel you could look to see if your cheques had been cashed out. This made it easy to see if you had missed a cheque in the post. I can't find this in the ccbill control panel any longer... why is that?

candyflip · 05-15-2008, 08:35 AM

I don't care about ePass, but ACH payments would be nice. Direct deposit and not having to pay for wire transfer fees gets

from me.

rowan · 05-16-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by longdongsilver

I think it would be good if webmaster could choose if they wanted to get paid in epass or not.

What happens when epass suddenly goes out of biz one day? Are ccbill expected to (a) accept the loss of the funds they've already sent to epass and (b) still be expected to pay out clients/affiliates in full via other means?

epassporte is not a long established bank with federal protection... they're just a third party company that you have to trust... obviously ccbill does not want to accept that risk, and I applaud them for that.

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Originally Posted by longdongsilver

Also years ago in the ccbill control panel you could look to see if your cheques had been cashed out. This made it easy to see if you had missed a cheque in the post. I can't find this in the ccbill control panel any longer... why is that?

That's definitely a feature I'd like to see, in fact I'd go further and suggest that their system proactively emails you if a cheque has gone uncashed for X weeks. I guess it was removed for a reason though.

rednet · 05-18-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by garce

You're not from around these parts, are you?

i am in the part which needs to send out money to the bank then back to epass to pay affiliates... and epass fees are almost nothing comparing to HOW MUCH THE FUCKING BANKS CHARGE! i'd better pay to ccbill for epass payment like for their wire transfer cost...
the same my affiliate webmasters say...

for example segpay has an epass tool so very possible we will move there soon...
i think ccbill will lose many clients who will go to segpay once it makes an affiliate sales tracking solution...

the more payment solutions billing has - the more attractive it is for webmasters...

and paychecks are the past time, imho

femdomdestiny · 05-18-2008, 02:14 PM

Yes, they should do it. If they are not sure, they should leave to webmaster to take risk and sign that CCbill is not responisble in case of any problem with epass.

this would definitely boost ccbill exposure.

Barefootsies · 05-18-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

this would definitely boost ccbill exposure.

That's a fucking joke.

Everyone with any sense, including CCB, knows the truth of the matter.

They add epass, and when they (epass) fuck up again, lock accounts, freeze payments.. as many threads on the board show.... who is going to get flooded with calls? CCB. Who will need to hire more people? CCB. Who suffers? Webmasters intelligent enough to NOT use epass, and pay their taxes.

Simple business decision toots.

faxxaff · 05-18-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rednet

just wonder why so big processor like ccbill with an affiliate program doesn't make the epass payments still?

i am sure it is not a problem for ccbill to create that option also,
it would save much time and money of people who work with ccbill sites and make more popularity to ccbill services

paychecks are very slow, wire transfers take much money by fees (especially when sending them here and there to pay affiliates then)

actually epass is an industry standard already and everyone is using it... so why not to do a favour to ccbill webmasters and affiliates and make their life little easier?

would be nice to hear the opinion of ccbill and webmasters who work with it

Epass is a pain in the A.... Their fees are very high ... try to withdraw a couple of thousand Dollars with their ATM card in a foreign country and you will see that they charge an arm and a leg. It's much cheaper to cash CCBill checks into an checking account and using your check card for withdrawals.

Oh .... I had contact with Epass' customer service twice. It took weeks to get a reply .... and now they have those funny new requirement for account verifications ... LOL ... no bank will ask you for as many documents as Epass .... W

You can save on CCBIll expenses by raising your payout limit from 25$ to a higher amount.

Shoehorn! · 05-18-2008, 02:26 PM

A better question is why doesn't CCBill offer direct deposit.

rowan · 05-18-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Yes, they should do it. If they are not sure, they should leave to webmaster to take risk and sign that CCbill is not responisble in case of any problem with epass.

this would definitely boost ccbill exposure.

ccbill still has to assume a fair amount of risk because they'd need to regularly wire funds to epass to cover the payouts. There's also the risk to their reputation if epass holds up the wire (for whatever reason) and therefore causes payouts to be late, which has happened to at least a few sponsors.

It would be convenient for webmasters, but probably not in ccbill's best long term interests.

BluMedia · 05-18-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

A better question is why doesn't CCBill offer direct deposit.

I agree that is a much better question.

Mark

Vick! · 05-18-2008, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

A better question is why doesn't CCBill offer direct deposit.

Answer:

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Originally Posted by ProjectNaked

The real question is why is there no direct deposit - answer: ccbill would lose truckloads of money from un-cashed checks.

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

uncashed checks.
additional wire fees.
= profit

rednet · 05-18-2008, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faxxaff

Epass is a pain in the A.... Their fees are very high ... try to withdraw a couple of thousand Dollars with their ATM card in a foreign country

it costs me $2 per transaction as well as all others who use it

of course if the ATM cannot give out dollars - then surely you will be fucked by the currency rates of the fucking greedy bank who gives you cash... but epass itself is the cheapest thing ever

Barefootsies · 05-19-2008, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rednet

it costs me $2 per transaction as well as all others who use it

of course if the ATM cannot give out dollars - then surely you will be fucked by the currency rates of the fucking greedy bank who gives you cash... but epass itself is the cheapest thing ever

Not cheaper than an ACH to my bank account.

stev0 · 05-19-2008, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rednet

well... it's the right of every webmaster, to use epass or not..

faxxaff · 05-19-2008, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rednet

it costs me $2 per transaction as well as all others who use it

of course if the ATM cannot give out dollars - then surely you will be fucked by the currency rates of the fucking greedy bank who gives you cash... but epass itself is the cheapest thing ever

Experience teaches me different. Last week I flew to Germany and the 300 Euro I withdrew with a BoA card were costing me around 6 USD less than the same amount with Epass .... Multiply that with a 100 withdrawals a year and you save 600 bucks per year by not using Epass ...

Nikki_Licks · 05-19-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rednet

i think ccbill will lose many clients who will go to segpay once it makes an affiliate sales tracking solution...

Isn't segway where allot of the iBill personnel went, or am I mistaken?

Klen · 05-19-2008, 08:52 AM

Ccbill should simply redecorate their affiliate control panel and add debit card option,and voila there wont be need for epass,and any affiliate software like nats of mpa3.

Klen · 05-19-2008, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyber-Hu$tler

I thought someone from CCBill created epassporte after receiving a message from Allah himself who appeard before him in the form of a British UFO...

Actualy epoch and epass was one company before they separated.Toobad why they didnt stay together.

05-14-2008, 07:18 PM	#1
rednet Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 82	why ccbill doesn't make epass payment solution? just wonder why so big processor like ccbill with an affiliate program doesn't make the epass payments still? i am sure it is not a problem for ccbill to create that option also, it would save much time and money of people who work with ccbill sites and make more popularity to ccbill services paychecks are very slow, wire transfers take much money by fees (especially when sending them here and there to pay affiliates then) actually epass is an industry standard already and everyone is using it... so why not to do a favour to ccbill webmasters and affiliates and make their life little easier? would be nice to hear the opinion of ccbill and webmasters who work with it

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05-15-2008, 08:35 AM	#16
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05-14-2008, 07:25 PM	#6
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	they are too busy counting all their money to waste time with that shit...

05-14-2008, 07:27 PM	#7
rednet Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 82	well... it's the right of every webmaster, to use epass or not.. but having an epass as an option is very usefull... someone loves checks, someone else loves epass..

05-14-2008, 08:23 PM	#10
ProjectNaked Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Detroit Areola Posts: 4,309	epass charges for every fucking thing and seems to constantly raise rates. I avoid them at all cost and have passed on deals with people when they said they would only accept epass. The real question is why is there no direct deposit - answer: ccbill would lose truckloads of money from un-cashed checks.

05-14-2008, 08:25 PM	#11
CyberHustler Masterbaiter Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 26,142	I thought someone from CCBill created epassporte after receiving a message from Allah himself who appeard before him in the form of a British UFO...

05-14-2008, 11:39 PM	#12
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Cheques and wires are provided by a bank. Epass is not a bank, it's just a third party company that happens to shift money around.

05-15-2008, 12:41 AM	#14
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Because epass is a fucking mess and CCbill (who has their shit together) doesn't want to have to deal with their shit.

05-15-2008, 08:34 AM	#15
longdongsilver Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 378	I think it would be good if webmaster could choose if they wanted to get paid in epass or not. Also years ago in the ccbill control panel you could look to see if your cheques had been cashed out. This made it easy to see if you had missed a cheque in the post. I can't find this in the ccbill control panel any longer... why is that?

05-18-2008, 02:14 PM	#19
femdomdestiny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,176	yes Yes, they should do it. If they are not sure, they should leave to webmaster to take risk and sign that CCbill is not responisble in case of any problem with epass. this would definitely boost ccbill exposure.

05-18-2008, 02:26 PM	#22
Shoehorn! Die With Your Boots On Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hawaii Posts: 22,872	A better question is why doesn't CCBill offer direct deposit. __________________

05-19-2008, 08:52 AM	#31
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Ccbill should simply redecorate their affiliate control panel and add debit card option,and voila there wont be need for epass,and any affiliate software like nats of mpa3.