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Old 05-20-2008, 01:15 PM   #1
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Sorry Airek and Shane's World Online!!!!

Airek,

Since you didn't E-Mail me and just posted a thread calling me out.. I know if I ever post again this would be brought public so I am bringing it public myself.

Dude, HUGE APOLOGIES I had to bail on your project.
Something came up and I had to takeoff right away.

If the project had actually been ASAP like I was originally told... If you had given me an exact date like I asked.... if you had gotten me the copy on that Friday.. If all vector logos had been given to me right away.. Etc..

This project would not have dragged on and would have been completed 3 weeks ago..

I was only doing this project as a favor to one of my favorite brands and one of the most popular people in the industry...

I am sorry for bailing and leaving you hanging!!

Sorry Bro! But you did offer me less cash and tell me over and over again how it's just a throw away item... So that does tell me it was no big deal for you..

Good luck with everything and thanks for asking me to do a banner for you! Too bad it didn't work out!


I know if I ever post again this would be brought public so I am bringing it public myself.

Airek wanted a 624x80 flash banner and 2 sized gifs for GFY for his launch of Shane's World Online..

Some personal shit came up and I had to make the decision to bail.

Yes I realize that bailing and cutting off all contact was the wrong thing to do but it was my only option due to my circumstances.

To put it this way..

1) I lost the hours I put into the banner.
2) I lost all of the work I had to turn down that week
3) I lost the other planned banner with Shane's World
4) I lost all of the word of mouth work Airek could have gotten me
5) I lost all of the work going around on the forums that week.
6) I lost all ETC work that I don't even realize yet.

So all in all I am out a VERY VERY LARGE some of money and a ton of quality portfolio work.. I am out a HELL of a lot more than Airek is out... Remember that flamers!

I am also fully aware of Who Airek is, Who he is friends with and What Shane's World is...

So I am FULLY aware of what I was doing and had to do.

Flamers keep in mind I don't care.. But if anyone flames or insults me I will defend myself.. I have been following this industry since before I could squirt.. Soo.. beware I am not nice and know quite a bit about the people who post here

Can't we all just get along!?!? I'll give free passes to my illegal tube sites!!

Oh and P.S.

Uno I saw what you said.. I have been online dealing with people since before I could squirt.. Since before Katie Fey had tits.. I am tired of idiots bringing their ego to the net and me having defend myself.. So I made this clip for people like you...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

I guess anyone else that wants to flame me can watch that clip also..
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:21 PM   #6
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When you get settled let me know, I'll see what I can find for you.

I don't have any issues with you, I think people who know me know how reasonable I am.

Things take longer sometimes.

Not the first time, won't be the last.

You still haven't answered any ICQ's from me, but you somehow found a way to find GFY before you tried to tell me where you are and what you're doing.

Shit I even asked you three times to send me your addy so I could pay you BEFORE you even finished the banners. Never got an email.

Last I heard you didn't have a place to live or something like that.

I saw talent in you, but your board skills are lacking.

I don't think this was a good move for you man.

Don't be mad at this kid, he's still learning.

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Old 05-20-2008, 01:22 PM   #7
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:26 PM   #8
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I don't see why you had to start this thread when you terminated the contract. Airek isn't hard to get ahold of.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:29 PM   #9
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I think there is something else to mention. The reason I had you do a couple banners for me is to see if you could handle the job and see what you'd come back with. I had tons of stuff for you to work on once you got those finished. No project leader with any brains is going to lay thousands and thousands of dollars of work on someone brand new to the biz without seeing what you can do.

You win some you lose some.

If you had just ICQ'd me when you resurfaced from wherever you disappeared to you'd still have work coming your way.

Don't forget, I chose you based on your skills with the STFU banners, not the other way around. I have tons of designers I can choose that are proven. I am constantly on the lookout for new, talented designers with potential to grow. That is why I came to you. Why would you just shoot yourself in the foot over flaking on designing two banners? Because it took me a little longer to get a different design from another designer is the reason you disappeared?

Communication is key to any relationship. If you would have told me you had personal issues that would prevent you from finishing the project I would have happily asked you to contact me when you have time to focus on work.


Still no ICQ from you.

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I don't have any issues with you, I think people who know me know how reasonable I am.
I don't have any issues with you just being blunt about the details.

I really wanted to get that banner done for you THAT WEEKEND!@

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You still haven't answered any ICQ's from me, but you somehow found a way to find GFY before you tried to tell me where you are and what you're doing.
Easier for me this way because I will have to do it twice.. I have basically said fuckit in my head already..

I have decided i am not going to do work for anyone.

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Shit I even asked you three times to send me your addy so I could pay you BEFORE you even finished the banners. Never got an email.

Last I heard you didn't have a place to live or something like that.
Actuallyyy the reality behind that is my pops is a builder I live in his houses to lower the taxes..

I didn't know if I would be living in one of his houses and which one..

But I actually never left the condo I am at..

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Board skills.. I will never have those... What I do know is Hype tho..

It's ok I'm out..

This is basically me just getting Uno Rick Rolled.. For commenting on me when he doesn't kno me

COmmmonn Uno click the link!
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Ok man.

Good luck to you. I think you have real talent, but you really have a lot to learn about the adult business.

Good luck.

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I don't have any issues with you just being blunt about the details.

I really wanted to get that banner done for you THAT WEEKEND!@



Easier for me this way because I will have to do it twice.. I have basically said fuckit in my head already..

I have decided i am not going to do work for anyone.



Actuallyyy the reality behind that is my pops is a builder I live in his houses to lower the taxes..

I didn't know if I would be living in one of his houses and which one..

But I actually never left the condo I am at..



Board skills.. I will never have those... What I do know is Hype tho..

It's ok I'm out..

This is basically me just getting Uno Rick Rolled.. For commenting on me when he doesn't kno me

COmmmonn Uno click the link!
You're a fucking idiot.....

Unlike what I or most people would have done, the dude basically OFFERED YOU MORE WORK!!...All you had to do was grow a set of balls and communicate and you would have been hooked in with a well known brand DESPITE the fact that you fucked up and flaked on your first job....And that would be saying something since nobody knows you...

But instead, you failed to take the carrot that Airek offered you and now you're still broke and assed out and S.O.L.......

And all of this over TWO FUCKING BANNERS!!!
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I think there is something else to mention. The reason I had you do a couple banners for me is to see if you could handle the job and see what you'd come back with. I had tons of stuff for you to work on once you got those finished. No project leader with any brains is going to lay thousands and thousands of dollars of work on someone brand new to the biz without seeing what you can do.
When I do a small banner project for someone it is basically me TESTING THEM ALSO!

You told me how ontop of everything you are and how much you hate designers because they are flakes.

When we talked the Banner was ASAP...

I am SO SICK of people telling me stuff is ASAP and then telling me it's not .. HAha.. Ahh I'm so done with that..


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I won't be doing adult for another 10 years.

Right now i'm out.. Just going to watch.. See if the newbs are right and all the porn will be free..

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Because it took me a little longer to get a different design from another designer is the reason you disappeared?
Naww naww.. Don't get the wrong Idea.. That is why I wrote the post the way I did.. I had to disappear for a legitimate reason..

You are not the only one I was getting work from... I had other work that I had to straight up say I can't..

But if everything was as ASAP as you told me it would be.. I would have gotten the banners done..

This thread wasn't a Fuck Airek this thread was a I'm Sorry But here is what happened!!

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Had to leave man.. Life sucks like that... Honestly the last time I talked to you on ICQ when you first made the thread calling for me.. I had NO CLUE I was going to have a problem...

My plan was to get you finished Flash THAT NIGHT!

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I am SO DONE with ICQ..
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This thread is EPIC..

hahahaha..

You guys love your drama.... I knew you'd love this..

You guys can now flame the fuck out of me.. for the next 4 months.. Have fun!
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See if the newbs are right and all the porn will be free..
Even if the porn is free, designers will always be required.
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You're a fucking idiot.....

Unlike what I or most people would have done, the dude basically OFFERED YOU MORE WORK!!...All you had to do was grow a set of balls and communicate and you would have been hooked in with a well known brand DESPITE the fact that you fucked up and flaked on your first job....And that would be saying something since nobody knows you...

But instead, you failed to take the carrot that Airek offered you and now you're still broke and assed out and S.O.L.......

And all of this over TWO FUCKING BANNERS!!!
Well in reality Shane's World and Airek should not hire me.

They should be investing their money in the best design possible..

I probably would not have done more work for them..
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Even if the porn is free, designers will always be required.
I won't be a designer if I work in adult 10 years from now..


This is were someone says "YOU WILL NEVER WORK IN ADULT NOW!"
I will refer you to my link in my first post.
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This thread won't get many views... Shitty thread title...
Oh well..

Failed HARD.

Oh well back to lurking.
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I don't have any issues with you just being blunt about the details.

I really wanted to get that banner done for you THAT WEEKEND!@



Easier for me this way because I will have to do it twice.. I have basically said fuckit in my head already..

I have decided i am not going to do work for anyone.



Actuallyyy the reality behind that is my pops is a builder I live in his houses to lower the taxes..

I didn't know if I would be living in one of his houses and which one..

But I actually never left the condo I am at..



Board skills.. I will never have those... What I do know is Hype tho..

It's ok I'm out..

This is basically me just getting Uno Rick Rolled.. For commenting on me when he doesn't kno me

COmmmonn Uno click the link!
It's just the impression that I got. Nothing personal.
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hmmm, maybe it is an affliction that hits all designers.
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Did you click the link?
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I'm sure if i sat around and thought for a while I might be able to think of at least 1 designer who isn't crazy.
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Why click it? I know what it is:

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Goodbye? Where you going?

I have to leave because I didn't do a flash banner?

Geeeezzzzz.... I just wanna watch!
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Hahaha fuck.

Seriously tho.. Dude.. I love your brand I have a lot of respect for the sites PanchoDog opperates but keep your personal opinions of others to yourself..
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can you explain how this is a call out thread? seeing how you don't want to talk to me on icq i will ask you here.


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=826768
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It is.


Tell me bout it. All he had to do was ICQ me when he came back from where ever he was and I would have said finish as soon as possible. Not sure why he got all "i don't wanna talk to you" on me. I was still willing to give him more work. Why he's short circuiting right now I have no idea.
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Old 05-21-2008, 02:47 AM   #42
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sounds to me like somebody who cracked under the pressure of doing a real design job for money and regrets accepting the job.
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Old 06-05-2008, 02:11 PM   #43
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sounds to me like somebody who cracked under the pressure of doing a real design job for money and regrets accepting the job.
sounds like it.
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:01 PM   #44
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:07 PM   #45
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Can somebody tell me what the hell is going on here?

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Old 07-15-2008, 12:09 PM   #46
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Wow that guy is a real moran!
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:10 PM   #47
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can i get a cliff notes?
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:22 PM   #48
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:24 PM   #49
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im actually shocked that he actually did a webmaster job, i was 100% sure he was some idiot surfer.... im still not completely convinced otherwise.
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:36 PM   #50
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Yea I was just talking to someone about this guy... apparently he is real. I doubt it though.... I can't imagine this being real.
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