20 year old porn video and still good enough? (VIDEO) - GoFuckYourself.com

Paul Markham · 05-21-2008, 03:26 AM

Just got this from the editor. It's of a girl I was shooting in 1988 and she had a way of talking to the camera that I wish I could find today. Sort of teasing and naughty without being slutty and totally real. This was coming out of her head, she talked like this when she made love. Or so she told me.

Dirty talking teen.

Forget about the quality of the video and listen to the way she talks to you. She does it for 28 minutes in this scene.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-21-2008, 03:36 AM

I sure hope you're joking, because that pretty much sucked practically every which way...

ADG

Paul Markham · 05-21-2008, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

I sure hope you're joking, because that pretty much sucked practically every which way...

No deadly serious. Because you don't see it, does not mean it's not there.

Paul Markham · 05-21-2008, 04:04 AM

If you like ebony girls, ebony porn, ebony sex, ebony lesbians and ebony pussy let me introduce you to ebony teen Fleur. Stunningly good looking, sexy and ebony wrapped up in one girl. She also has a way of describing sex that will blow you away.

Fleur beautiful Ebony teen who had a way with words.

OK the quality of the video is not up to todays standards. But the girl is, in my humble opinion, the way Fleur talks to you while she's having fun is so horny. There's a part in the middle where she tells us how to lick her shaven pussy that is just one of the horniest things I've heard. She's rubbing her clitoris while she's telling us and that blows my mind.

Paul Markham · 05-21-2008, 07:37 PM

Time for a bump.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 05-21-2008, 07:41 PM

I dunno, I'm not really seeing it either. I think it's more her accent than anything else.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-21-2008, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The still photos look good...

ADG

shahab6 · 05-21-2008, 08:08 PM

The first girl is so ugly

F-U-Jimmy · 05-21-2008, 08:12 PM

She sounds like princess Diane

Iron Fist · 05-21-2008, 08:17 PM

Interesting

Fat Panda · 05-21-2008, 08:23 PM

she was terrible...but she gave me a boner

SlammedMedia · 05-21-2008, 09:11 PM

unless you hadn't be laid in 20 years it would be annoying having her talk to you like that. I'd have to ask her to either stop talking or leave so I could jerk off.

05-21-2008, 09:13 PM

She looks retarded.

BV · 05-21-2008, 09:30 PM

That was some dumb shit.
What's even more surprising is that after 20 years of shooting you still suck.

Thank god for majic join links!

Paul Markham · 05-21-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Slammed Network

unless you hadn't be laid in 20 years it would be annoying having her talk to you like that. I'd have to ask her to either stop talking or leave so I could jerk off.

Spot on. This is content for guys who turned on to porn and jerking off 20 years ago. They don't always get aroused by the same thing todays 20 year olds do. They like a more subtle approach, they want to be reminded of what first aroused them.

The good thing is you can't go back in time and produce this content and you can't mass produce it like practically every other site on the Net. The demand is very very low, the supply even lower. Beauty of vintage porn or classic porn is it can't be shot today.

I can understand how you would not like her talking to you while you made love to her. You would not last 2 minutes.

The beauty of this content is it's all about the girls talking to the camera.

Not as hairy as some, but hairier than todays teens.

Hairy pussy teen video.

Now tell me you can't sell unshaven teens. LOL

Paul Markham · 05-21-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

That was some dumb shit.
What's even more surprising is that after 20 years of shooting you still suck.

Thank god for majic join links!

Not as dumb as nasty solo girls. I suppose if you're selling meat it works. Would never expect you to understand that some porn buyers want the personality of the girl over the flesh.

Try selling who the girl is rather than what she is and you might not have such dumb shit.

Paul Markham · 05-21-2008, 10:11 PM

I think this clip shows just how crazy Samantha Johnson was. She loved the massager.

Samantha Johnson porn video.

Crazy and Scottish.

Seriously this content is about who the girl is and does not treat her as a piece of meat, it shows their personality and not shot to a formula. I looked at two sample videos on the site of another sponsor posting here and both were the same. Both shot to the same formula and neither were about the girl. Great if a member wants 30 days of the same videos with only meat changing. Different chicken but still chicken and still tastes the same.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 05-21-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Would never expect you to understand that some porn buyers want the personality of the girl over the flesh.

You picked up any hint of personality from that girl's performance? It's like she was reading it straight off phonesex flashcards...

Kudles · 05-21-2008, 10:38 PM

Sorry but not that hot.

Paul Markham · 05-21-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

You picked up any hint of personality from that girl's performance? It's like she was reading it straight off phonesex flashcards...

Another flame from someone not thinking. Some girl saying what's on a phone sex flashcard. How bad is that?

It's coming from her imagination, look at what the other girls are saying and how they say it. See that what the girls are saying is coming out of their heads. But I do understand how hard it is to get a girl to be herself while she's stripping and masturbating in front of someone hold a camera. Many of todays models seem to be acting out the same scene and have a cloned personality. Most pornographers complain that todays girls are too plastic.

This content will not appeal much to 20 year olds, it's not aimed at them. It's for 40 year old surfers who have not mastered Torrents.

Like the porn stars from 20 years ago.

Misty McKain solo girl porn video.

The content is about the girls talking while they masturbate and the mix of styles and personalities. I prefer the more natural ones, the amateurs. LOL

BV · 05-22-2008, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Not as dumb as nasty solo girls. I suppose if you're selling meat it works. Would never expect you to understand that some porn buyers want the personality of the girl over the flesh.

Try selling who the girl is rather than what she is and you might not have such dumb shit.

This is what NSG did today, Let's see what you did: http://www.nastysologirls.com/stats.jpg

BV · 05-22-2008, 01:15 AM

Let me add those are 29.95 NO TRIAL JOINS and based on 1st page clicks.

woj · 05-31-2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BV

This is what NSG did today, Let's see what you did: http://www.nastysologirls.com/stats.jpg

not bad dude

BV · 05-31-2008, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

not bad dude

This is next: http://realxxxletters.com/tour1.php

Just waiting on visa. tick tock tick toc

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 05-31-2008, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BV

This is next: http://realxxxletters.com/tour1.php

Just waiting on visa. tick tock tick toc

Should I be looking forward to another good feed to add to my list?

BV · 05-31-2008, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

Should I be looking forward to another good feed to add to my list?

Hell Yah

I'm a burnt out son of a bitch but I will be busy over the next 2 weeks (while waiting for VISA) and will have time to get them ready along with a ton of other updates to be preloaded into the other BVBucks Blog sites RSS feeds..

A lot of late night work zombie modes.

BV · 05-31-2008, 02:14 AM

Fishing really sucks balls right now anyways. and gas is ridiculous, I burnt 200 dollars in fuel last Saturday and all I got was 1 keeper Red Snapper.

I could have bought some nice BEEF at the grocery store instead!

Paul Markham · 06-01-2008, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BV

This is what NSG did today, Let's see what you did: http://www.nastysologirls.com/stats.jpg

1-800+ not that good. We do 1-300 approx, but we do get less traffic. You can take my word for it or not.

Maybe if your content appealed more to porn buyers than affiliates you would get less traffic and more sales.

Thanks for the bump.

You can bump it again.

INever · 06-01-2008, 12:36 AM

I thought it was entertaining.

BV · 06-01-2008, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

1-800+ not that good. We do 1-300 approx, but we do get less traffic. You can take my word for it or not.

Maybe if your content appealed more to porn buyers than affiliates you would get less traffic and more sales.

Thanks for the bump.

You can bump it again.

It's actually 1:678
Based on 1st page UNIQUE , you're quoting raw.

but ratios mean shit unless you are comparing apples to apples

This is an average of all affiliates traffic! (Some affiliates convert 1:70)

BUT all is based on a 29.95 NO TRIAL MEMBERSHIP!

I doubt your site exceeds that overall conversion rate even with your $2.95 Trial!

I'll call you out on it Mr. "Magic Join Links"

Post a screen cap!

I bet you can't even find your way to that page in the admin!

Camco · 06-01-2008, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

1-800+ not that good. We do 1-300 approx, but we do get less traffic. You can take my word for it or not.

Are there any of Paul Markham's affiliates here that can verify this?

potter · 06-01-2008, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

It's actually 1:678
Based on 1st page UNIQUE , you're quoting raw.

but ratios mean shit unless you are comparing apples to apples

This is an average of all affiliates traffic! (Some affiliates convert 1:70)

BUT all is based on a 29.95 NO TRIAL MEMBERSHIP!

I doubt your site exceeds that overall conversion rate even with your $2.95 Trial!

I'll call you out on it Mr. "Magic Join Links"

Post a screen cap!

I bet you can't even find your way to that page in the admin!

as much as i dislike your content. please continue to school paul, it's fuckin hilarious.

Camco · 06-01-2008, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

I doubt your site exceeds that overall conversion rate even with your $2.95 Trial!

I'll call you out on it Mr. "Magic Join Links"

Post a screen cap!

I bet you can't even find your way to that page in the admin!

I bet he doesn't post a screen cap of his stats

payd2purv · 06-01-2008, 11:32 PM

1988!?! Holy smokes!

Adultnet · 06-02-2008, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

not bad dude

yep indeed ..

Paul Markham · 06-07-2008, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

It's actually 1:678
Based on 1st page UNIQUE , you're quoting raw.

but ratios mean shit unless you are comparing apples to apples

Very true about apples. I was quoting from CCBILL stats on their affiliates page.

Yes you get a lot more traffic than me, but you don't convert it as well as we do. The reasons could be many. Could be that I get more review site and paysite traffic traffic or that you get lots more FHG traffic. Could be that you have done a deal with a big traffic source that lowers your ratios and all the others do fine. What ever it is don't you think it strange that we as an industry boast about a site converting on average 1-678? This means we had 677 people reject it before one decided to buy.

My comment on your content on your tour was based on your comments about my scene. The content I saw was all about a girls pussy, none of it related to who the girl is, why she was there, why she was doing what she was doing and the "fantasy" element I like that a girl is doing this because she's naughty. That she has brains, a personality and character that is not something she puts on for a porn movie.

But if you want to side step that debate and get it purely down to stats fine. Go discuss it with someone else. You are the stats king.

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1988!?! Holy smokes!

It was very different back then and I don't know why girls have changed so much. I shot loads of girls from 1988 to 2000 who would expose something of who they were, what turned them on and get into a scene for real. Climaxing for real was the norm, a fake one was unusual, even though some did ham it up a bit they still revealed who they were. Sometimes the girl was shy and obviously doing something at the edge of her boundaries. Sometimes it was a girl like Fleur who did the first scene very nervous and went into the second one and nailed it. Sometimes it was a girl like Anne Marie Kyte a top porn star of the day and sometimes it was a girl doing her one and only porn scene.

The only theme was the girl did the scene as she felt it should be done and yes sometimes it was crap.

In a time when we churn out cloned porn scenes were the girls are often reduced to a body part this approach is different. Is it truly unique? No there are a few girls with solo girls sites who still have the ability to get over their personality to the members. Often the solo sites that convert and retain like a mother fucker.

Some people here don't like me, but anyone who promotes a site putting a GFY board personality over a sites appeal to surfers suffers in his pocket. It's about what a surfer thinks of my porn, not what a poster on GFY thinks of me.

05-21-2008, 03:26 AM	#1
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	20 year old porn video and still good enough? (VIDEO) Just got this from the editor. It's of a girl I was shooting in 1988 and she had a way of talking to the camera that I wish I could find today. Sort of teasing and naughty without being slutty and totally real. This was coming out of her head, she talked like this when she made love. Or so she told me. Dirty talking teen. Forget about the quality of the video and listen to the way she talks to you. She does it for 28 minutes in this scene. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

05-21-2008, 03:36 AM	#2
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	I sure hope you're joking, because that pretty much sucked practically every which way... ADG __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)

05-21-2008, 04:04 AM	#4
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	If you like ebony girls, ebony porn, ebony sex, ebony lesbians and ebony pussy let me introduce you to ebony teen Fleur. Stunningly good looking, sexy and ebony wrapped up in one girl. She also has a way of describing sex that will blow you away. Fleur beautiful Ebony teen who had a way with words. OK the quality of the video is not up to todays standards. But the girl is, in my humble opinion, the way Fleur talks to you while she's having fun is so horny. There's a part in the middle where she tells us how to lick her shaven pussy that is just one of the horniest things I've heard. She's rubbing her clitoris while she's telling us and that blows my mind. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

05-21-2008, 07:37 PM	#5
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Time for a bump. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

05-21-2008, 08:12 PM	#9
F-U-Jimmy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Visiting a city near you soon ! Posts: 6,853	She sounds like princess Diane __________________ icq. 176240424 44.years as a pornographer !!!!!!!!!!!

05-21-2008, 07:41 PM	#6
Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	I dunno, I'm not really seeing it either. I think it's more her accent than anything else.

05-21-2008, 08:08 PM	#8
shahab6 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los angeles Posts: 1,614	The first girl is so ugly

05-21-2008, 08:17 PM	#10
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Interesting __________________ i like waffles

05-21-2008, 08:23 PM	#11
Fat Panda Porn is Dead. Move along. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,295	she was terrible...but she gave me a boner

05-21-2008, 09:11 PM	#12
SlammedMedia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,573	unless you hadn't be laid in 20 years it would be annoying having her talk to you like that. I'd have to ask her to either stop talking or leave so I could jerk off. __________________ ICQ: 350-260-628

05-21-2008, 09:13 PM	#13
Vexes Guest Posts: n/a	She looks retarded.

05-21-2008, 09:30 PM	#14
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	That was some dumb shit. What's even more surprising is that after 20 years of shooting you still suck. Thank god for majic join links!

05-21-2008, 10:11 PM	#17
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	I think this clip shows just how crazy Samantha Johnson was. She loved the massager. Samantha Johnson porn video. Crazy and Scottish. Seriously this content is about who the girl is and does not treat her as a piece of meat, it shows their personality and not shot to a formula. I looked at two sample videos on the site of another sponsor posting here and both were the same. Both shot to the same formula and neither were about the girl. Great if a member wants 30 days of the same videos with only meat changing. Different chicken but still chicken and still tastes the same. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

05-21-2008, 10:38 PM	#19
Kudles Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Here There and Everywhere Posts: 5,477	Sorry but not that hot.

05-22-2008, 01:15 AM	#22
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	Let me add those are 29.95 NO TRIAL JOINS and based on 1st page clicks.

05-31-2008, 02:14 AM	#27
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	Fishing really sucks balls right now anyways. and gas is ridiculous, I burnt 200 dollars in fuel last Saturday and all I got was 1 keeper Red Snapper. I could have bought some nice BEEF at the grocery store instead!

06-01-2008, 12:36 AM	#29
INever Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: .......in a niche, in orbit...... Posts: 3,610	I thought it was entertaining. __________________ I love Camdough

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