Britain Knife Crimes...

[SykkBoy]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080605/...in_knife_crime


if you outlaw knives, only outlaws will have knives...



;-)

[Sly]

I think we already have the 3 inch rule, don't we ?

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080605/...in_knife_crime


if you outlaw knives, only outlaws will have knives...



;-)

Gotta agree with you there. Its the same with the gun laws over here. People who dont have a licence to own one are the people using them for crime.

[G-Rotica]

Knives don't kill people. people kill people.

[SykkBoy]

you can have my knife when you pry it from my cold, dead hands...

[GetSCORECash]

So what is going to happen in restaurants? Plastic Knives?

[pr0]

rofl pretty soon the british will be forced to wear football helmets when leaving the house

fucking weak ass bitchs

[SayWhut]

Ill Shank U Blud Yer I Swer Down

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by SCORE-Cash

So what is going to happen in restaurants? Plastic Knives?

plastic knives and the appearance of more sporks...

[Babaganoosh]

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

plastic knives and the appearance of more sporks...

Those can be deadly. Those bastards need guns. If they don't get them soon they'll be eating with their fingers.

[pr0]

this will open up a whole new business for "non-knife" sharp objects in britain

i think I'll start selling "extra sharp/strong pencils" to my UK traffic

maybe a special Carbon/Titanium pencil with a 3 inch point

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by pr0

this will open up a whole new business for "non-knife" sharp objects in britain

i think I'll start selling "extra sharp/strong pencils" to my UK traffic

maybe a special Carbon/Titanium pencil with a 3 inch point

I was thinking of some type of online shank business...or become somewhat of a shank dealer...but paint the shanks in designer colors so they don't really look like shanks...or find some loophole similar to those found by "glass pipe" dealers...

[mike-al]

just make a "mod" for a fleshlight where you can insert a screw or a shard of glass

Multi purpose is where the true money is at... Yo

[Pornwolf]

Knife crimes are getting out of control eh?


What's next, a wave of bow and arrow homicides in parks?

[mike-al]

We are coming out with a new prototype fleshlight product...

"The Swiss Army Shank Shaft"

[Naughty-Pages]

Originally Posted by Sly

I think we already have the 3 inch rule, don't we ?

ya, i think i heard that's the general consensus about guys from the UK...



j/k ... couldn't resist..

[pr0]

Wheres Franck at to tell us all about Guns & Violence?

see....when there are no guns, people just move onto other weapons of choice & availability

[Spunky]

Bring back the cross bow

[pr0]

anyone else find it fucking hilarious that Britain will soon have the same rules as a mental institution?

no sharp objects....no raising your voice rofl

[fluffygrrl]

Originally Posted by pr0

anyone else find it fucking hilarious that Britain will soon have the same rules as a mental institution?

no sharp objects....no raising your voice rofl

Lmao.

I was talking with a brit friend and according to him all british people left the uk these past couple decades. It's just the lords, the queen, and a bunch of immigrants left there these days.

[Kudles]

Knives are better than guns right?

[Just Mike]

they will fiond something else to kill with...

maybe a SPORK?!

[Pornwolf]

Maybe they can start throwing rocks.

That would really be hardcore. Imagine what the after football crowds would be like if everyone got into stoning people again.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by pr0

Wheres Franck at to tell us all about Guns & Violence?

see....when there are no guns, people just move onto other weapons of choice & availability

Surprisingly, other weapons of choice and availability are generally a lot less effective than guns. If someone attacks you with a knife, you have a much better chance of surviving than you have if someone attacks you with a gun.

What do you think would have happened if this guy had had a gun?
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/06/04...ker-flips.html

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

Maybe they can start throwing rocks.

That would really be hardcore. Imagine what the after football crowds would be like if everyone got into stoning people again.

dont even go there... they will ban rocks and stones over here next

[fluffygrrl]

Originally Posted by Libertine

Surprisingly, other weapons of choice and availability are generally a lot less effective than guns. If someone attacks you with a knife, you have a much better chance of surviving than you have if someone attacks you with a gun.

What do you think would have happened if this guy had had a gun?
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/06/04...ker-flips.html

Not really true, in most practical situations I can think of, I'd rather have a nut attacking me armed with a gun than a knife. All else being equal.

Guns need some ability to handle properly and I stand a much better chance to feed them it than if they had a knife.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

Not really true, in most practical situations I can think of, I'd rather have a nut attacking me armed with a gun than a knife. All else being equal.

Guns need some ability to handle properly and I stand a much better chance to feed them it than if they had a knife.

That must be why the world's armies and police forces are massively dropping firearms in favor of knifes. Oh, wait.

To kill someone with a knife requires you to be very close to the person, as well as be fairly strong, competent or just plain lucky (bones will stop a knife quite a bit more easily than they will stop a bullet).

Also, keep in mind that running from someone with a knife will have a rather higher success rate than running from someone with a gun.

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by Libertine

Surprisingly, other weapons of choice and availability are generally a lot less effective than guns. If someone attacks you with a knife, you have a much better chance of surviving than you have if someone attacks you with a gun.

What do you think would have happened if this guy had had a gun?
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/06/04...ker-flips.html

Unless someone is particularly a good shot, hitting a running and dodging target is very difficult. Specially with a handgun. Plus typically when you see someone pulling on you bolt. Now a knife on the other hand is a very personal weapon. One used very up close and without much reaction time. I would also reason that more people would be willing to grapple a gun being pulled out over a doing the same with a knife.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Unless someone is particularly a good shot, hitting a running and dodging target is very difficult. Specially with a handgun. Plus typically when you see someone pulling on you bolt. Now a knife on the other hand is a very personal weapon. One used very up close and without much reaction time. I would also reason that more people would be willing to grapple a gun being pulled out over a doing the same with a knife.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_p...stal_shootings
etc.

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by Libertine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_p...stal_shootings
etc.

Woohoo someone can run to wiki a user edited resource that is typically not allowed in any academia and post some extremes of gun violence. Hmm what do you have there a hundred of so deaths by gun fire ok two can play at that game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusade

[Adultnet]

Originally Posted by G-Rotica

Knives don't kill people. people kill people.

Knives make it just more easy

[dynastoned]

lolllllllllllll

i personally find it fucking funny. what are they going to ban next sticks, rocks? hahahahaaaaaaaaaa

why don't they try working on the people in their community instead.

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by dynastoned

lolllllllllllll

i personally find it fucking funny. what are they going to ban next sticks, rocks? hahahahaaaaaaaaaa

why don't they try working on the people in their community instead.

We have seen this play out in history. Banning of nearly every weapon type and then walla farm tools and even fans became weapons. When that was fought a bit walla out came using the body itself to kill people. Yup really worked in Asia's history.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Woohoo someone can run to wiki a user edited resource that is typically not allowed in any academia and post some extremes of gun violence. Hmm what do you have there a hundred of so deaths by gun fire ok two can play at that game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusade

I posted those links to note that those things happened, as well as implying that the outcome with knives would most likely have been a different one. If the fact that wikipedia is edited by users makes you doubt whether the Virgina Tech massacre actually happened, or whether guns were used... well, if that is the case, you're an idiot. If not, your doubts with regards to the veracity of Wikipedia are unrelated to the issue at hand.

As for the crusades, well yes, back before guns existed, armies of thousands of people successfully used bladed weapons to kill thousands of other people. The fact that more people died in relatively recent wars (WWI, WWII) which were fought, among other weapons, with guns, only reinforces the point I am making.



...but what the hell am I doing. It's a beautiful day, and I am wasting my time on idiots who apparently honestly believe knives are more effective weapons than guns, failing to realize that if that were the case, guns would be pointless in the first place

[halfpint]

When they were talking about this on the news.A lot of the knives that they were showing were every day kitchen knives so god knows how they are gonna stop people from carrying these. Our goverment bring out ban after ban which never works. They are all a waste of time and its a front to show the people of Great Britian that they care or are doing something about it. This will not stop stabbings at all..

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by Libertine

...but what the hell am I doing. It's a beautiful day, and I am wasting my time on idiots who apparently honestly believe knives are more effective weapons than guns, failing to realize that if that were the case, guns would be pointless in the first place

Never doubted that guns were not used in such crimes. Just hate people running to wiki for their opinions and then quoting them as if they are gospel. Also never said knives were more effective than guns. Both of which really questions your comprehension abilities while reading. The only thing I brought up was that it is hard to hit a moving target with a hand gun. Also please note that at all three links you posted most did not flea and in one people were told to stay in place by the school. Hiding under ones desk when facing a nutcase with a gun is about as effective as hiding in a closet when facing a nutcase with a butcher knife. Both would be highly fucking stupid.

PS please note I never called you a single name, unlike yourself.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by pr0

anyone else find it fucking hilarious that Britain will soon have the same rules as a mental institution?

no sharp objects....no raising your voice rofl

Pretty funny for you to say that sitting over in the USA. Take a walk through any of the tough London streets and see if your attitude changes. Knife crime in our country is a serious problem, just like gun crime is a serious problem in the USA. The UK is addressing our situation unlike the USA who will never upset the big gun companies.

I'm not gonna go and say Guns should be banned or whatever. Responsible gun owners don't kill people, for them its a hobby. The same can't be said for knives. Anyone who carries a knife on the streets is intending to use it if needed. There is no sport as far as I'm aware that people need to carry knives. You can't get a license to have a big ass knife on you at all times. Young people carrying knifes are more dangerous the responsible gun owners.

[Stephen McTowelie]

Originally Posted by mike-al

just make a "mod" for a fleshlight where you can insert a screw or a shard of glass

Multi purpose is where the true money is at... Yo

But what if you forgot about the glass

[Mike Semen]

Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

Lmao.

I was talking with a brit friend and according to him all british people left the uk these past couple decades. It's just the lords, the queen, and a bunch of immigrants left there these days.

Thats about right. I'm out of here asap as well.

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by Ross

Pretty funny for you to say that sitting over in the USA. Take a walk through any of the tough London streets and see if your attitude changes. Knife crime in our country is a serious problem, just like gun crime is a serious problem in the USA. The UK is addressing our situation unlike the USA who will never upset the big gun companies.

I'm not gonna go and say Guns should be banned or whatever. Responsible gun owners don't kill people, for them its a hobby. The same can't be said for knives. Anyone who carries a knife on the streets is intending to use it if needed. There is no sport as far as I'm aware that people need to carry knives. You can't get a license to have a big ass knife on you at all times. Young people carrying knifes are more dangerous the responsible gun owners.

Yep you right the youngsters do carry knives and it is a problem over here but bans do not work and wont solve this problem. Its the culture that needs to change. The teenagers think it is hip to carry a knife or they carry it because other gangs carry knives and think it will protect them. You look at where all of this is happening and there is nothing for the teenagers to do but hang around in the street. I also see that some of the parents were bought up with the "gang culture" and think it is cool for thier kids to do the same. The culture over here has gone to shit, you go out to a nightclub over here and a accidentally bump into somebody and all they want to do is beat you up, it stupid. It was never this bad when I was a teenager and I dont recall so many stabbings over such stupid things

[Stephen McTowelie]

Originally Posted by Mike Semen

Thats about right. I'm out of here asap as well.

Its very tempting but where else is there ?

Unless we all club together and get an island somewhere !

[biskoppen]

Knife stabbings in Denmark are through the roof... and guess what, it's not the natives who's behind those numbers ;)

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by Libertine

...What do you think would have happened if this guy had had a gun?
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/06/04...ker-flips.html

thank goodness, the video would have been half as long.

[Blazed]

Originally Posted by halfpint

Yep you right the youngsters do carry knives and it is a problem over here but bans do not work and wont solve this problem. Its the culture that needs to change. The teenagers think it is hip to carry a knife or they carry it because other gangs carry knives and think it will protect them. You look at where all of this is happening and there is nothing for the teenagers to do but hang around in the street. I also see that some of the parents were bought up with the "gang culture" and think it is cool for thier kids to do the same. The culture over here has gone to shit, you go out to a nightclub over here and a accidentally bump into somebody and all they want to do is beat you up, it stupid. It was never this bad when I was a teenager and I dont recall so many stabbings over such stupid things

Since when did you last go to a nightclub? Its not like you state at all. You sound like the typical idiot "it wasnt like this in my days". And what are you on about theres nothing for the kids to do on the streets youll struggle to find another city in the world with as much to do as london. You really have no idea.

[scottybuzz]

LOL at all the idiots saying what faggots the british are. I dare anyone of you to walk through any of the Asian communties and not shit your pants when you come across a gang of 40 hooded paki's chasing you for just £10 with a knife.

If you have not experienced these gangs please stfu.

[xentech]

By reading this thread, it's amazing how little american's know about Britain. But yeh, it's terrible how willing people are to stab people just to rob their mobile phone's... Talk about equating risk of crime to the gains...

I don't think a gun is much worse then a knife anyway. If you get hit in the upper body with either you are likely to die, if you get hit in the leg with either you are likely to be fine - the only thing making guns worse really is the range ;)

[xentech]

This is stupid anyway, there is no way that bill will pass. If you banned knives in this country it wouldn't reduce knife crimes what-so-ever. There would just be criminals making money selling knives ASWEL as guns AND all criminals still have knives and will continue to get them. If only countries were governed under common sense, instead of the retard majority.

[roly]

Originally Posted by xentech

This is stupid anyway, there is no way that bill will pass. If you banned knives in this country it wouldn't reduce knife crimes what-so-ever. There would just be criminals making money selling knives ASWEL as guns AND all criminals still have knives and will continue to get them. If only countries were governed under common sense, instead of the retard majority.

they're not going to ban knives. Carrying knives in public is already banned, but people under 18 have been getting off with just a warning, so soon they'll be prosecuted instead, seems to make sense. if someones going fishing or whatever and has a reason fair enough, but a ban on carrying them in public without justification is a good thing.

[xentech]

Originally Posted by roly

they're not going to ban knives. Carrying knives in public is already banned, but people under 18 have been getting off with just a warning, so soon they'll be prosecuted instead, seems to make sense. if someones going fishing or whatever and has a reason fair enough, but a ban on carrying them in public without justification is a good thing.

Oh I see... I always thought if you're carrying around a knife in public you are likely to go to borstal not be let off with warning.

[Antonio]

the Brits are just genetically fucked, they are freaks, you can ban all the weaposn you want, they'll still kill each other ....... on the other hand that makes them the best soldiers in the World

if I had to choose my own army I'd make it 50% Birts and 50% Zulus - the Brits are freaks, the Zulus have no idea what fear means and love killing people