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nico-t · 06-09-2008, 05:29 AM

well i think its normal the people in the US bitch about it because they are used to dirt cheap gas prices... its all about what is/was normal where you live
also the US is much more wide spread than european countries so the make alot more miles
all in all every country in the world suffers, the gas prices here are completely through the roof. ($9,75 a gallon)

Sid70 · 06-09-2008, 05:40 AM

I know that might hurt American life style, but please
GET RID OF 4L+ TRUCKS FIRST!

testpie · 06-09-2008, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

We are one of the top oil producing nations in the world. You aren't.

Did you know that people in Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, two other leading oil producing nations, pay as little as 12 cents per gallon still? I'm not suggesting we in Canada should be paying that little, but surely we should be paying a lower amount than our neighbor directly south of us.

Nevermind with this "you don't have a right to bitch" argument, it's crap. Everyone has a right to bitch, especially when they are paying twice what they were at this time last year for the same thing.

I understand that you are one of the top oil producing nations in the world, but I'm just saying that what has happened to your fuel prices should be no great surprise - if it can happen over the pond so easily (our fuel prices admittedly haven't quite doubled, but they are pretty much there from a few years ago) surely some of you must have seen it coming? Also, I agree with kievdesign's point that most cars in America seem to be on the gas guzzling size, whereas over here we have adapted to our government shafting us left right and center for fuel by demanding more efficient engines so that we can get more out of the fuel we use; is that even happening over there? Every other advert I seem to here on American net radio channels seems to be about the horsepower and so on of your engines: I can't once remember hearing anything along the lines of "more efficient", "miles per gallon" or "more economical".

rewn · 06-09-2008, 06:29 AM

Wait until Iran gets invaded , it will hit $10, easy.

Trax · 06-09-2008, 06:35 AM

i pay twice as much as you guys... trust me.. it will get worse

pornguy · 06-09-2008, 06:53 AM

2.65 a GALLON here and holding. But I think it might go up a bit now that the US has hit 4

Grapesoda · 06-09-2008, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

$4.19-$4.79 here

saw $4.93 too

CDSmith · 06-09-2008, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by testpie

I understand that you are one of the top oil producing nations in the world, but I'm just saying that what has happened to your fuel prices should be no great surprise - if it can happen over the pond so easily (our fuel prices admittedly haven't quite doubled, but they are pretty much there from a few years ago) surely some of you must have seen it coming? Also, I agree with kievdesign's point that most cars in America seem to be on the gas guzzling size, whereas over here we have adapted to our government shafting us left right and center for fuel by demanding more efficient engines so that we can get more out of the fuel we use; is that even happening over there? Every other advert I seem to here on American net radio channels seems to be about the horsepower and so on of your engines: I can't once remember hearing anything along the lines of "more efficient", "miles per gallon" or "more economical".

Who said it was any great surprise? Bitching does not have to mean people are surprised.

Bitching can sometimes mean that people just don't like the price of something.

And yes, is that even happening over here?... yes, it is. In fact it's been in the news quite frequently of late, people losing money on their SUV's left and right, people trading them in and getting much less than they thought, and buying smaller more economical vehicles. The wave has started. Bus ridership is up lately and I suspect it's going to keep rising, thus eventually the demand for gas is going to go down, way down in fact. People will simply drive less, drive smarter, and bus it more.

The oil companies are doing themselves no favors by continually upping their prices. The higher they raise th e price the less gas they're going to sell, period.

bronco67 · 06-09-2008, 07:17 AM

I WISH it was $4.00.

I just saw $4.69 two blocks from my house.

xentech · 06-09-2008, 07:20 AM

There's no money in petrol

testpie · 06-09-2008, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Who said it was any great surprise? Bitching does not have to mean people are surprised.

Bitching can sometimes mean that people just don't like the price of something.

From the reactions of many here it seems unexpected.

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

And yes, is that even happening over here?... yes, it is. In fact it's been in the news quite frequently of late, people losing money on their SUV's left and right, people trading them in and getting much less than they thought, and buying smaller more economical vehicles. The wave has started. Bus ridership is up lately and I suspect it's going to keep rising, thus eventually the demand for gas is going to go down, way down in fact. People will simply drive less, drive smarter, and bus it more.

I'm glad to hear that, and clearly I only have an outsider's view into the entire situation. Out of curiosity, I'd be interested to know how many Americans/Canadians are thinking of "downgrading" their cars, or how many currently have larger capacity engines.

CDSmith · 06-09-2008, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by testpie

From the reactions of many here it seems unexpected.

I'm glad to hear that, and clearly I only have an outsider's view into the entire situation. Out of curiosity, I'd be interested to know how many Americans/Canadians are thinking of "downgrading" their cars, or how many currently have larger capacity engines.

I posted a thread on another board about this, around 6-8 weeks ago when gas prices were rising but still a lot less than they are now. I said people with gas guzzling SUV's were are starting to find it difficult to sell them, and that people who owe, say $12k on their vehicle, are trading them in or selling them only to find that they can't even recover what they owe for it, thus taking a loss. People argued with me of couse.

Then just a few weeks ago someone else posted the same thing, but now had a few news links that backed it up. Well... where were the nay sayers then? But there's more. Some people actually read this and their only thought was that they could now "pick up a sweet SUV for a song", wringing their hands like idiots, when in fact they simply can't or won't see the writing on the wall... that owning such a vehicle is started to cost much more than it's worth. Fillups that used to cost $70 now cost over $100. Resale/tradein value in the shitter. People that buy them, even for "a song", are very short sighted.

Your average working class person, office workers etc, people who commute to work, are all panicking here, or starting to, and are thinking of ways of changing their gas consumption habits. Some are of course clueless and don't seem to care, that is until gas goes above $150 a litre, then they'll clue in pretty quick.

Me, I have a fairly economica V-6, I work from home, thus I only drive it maybe two or three times a week, just to go to the store, run errands, or drive out to the parent's house in the burbs for a visit. I tank up maybe once every 4-5 weeks. :D

testpie · 06-09-2008, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

I posted a thread on another board about this, around 6-8 weeks ago when gas prices were rising but still a lot less than they are now. I said people with gas guzzling SUV's were are starting to find it difficult to sell them, and that people who owe, say $12k on their vehicle, are trading them in or selling them only to find that they can't even recover what they owe for it, thus taking a loss. People argued with me of couse.

Then just a few weeks ago someone else posted the same thing, but now had a few news links that backed it up. Well... where were the nay sayers then? But there's more. Some people actually read this and their only thought was that they could now "pick up a sweet SUV for a song", wringing their hands like idiots, when in fact they simply can't or won't see the writing on the wall... that owning such a vehicle is started to cost much more than it's worth. Fillups that used to cost $70 now cost over $100. Resale/tradein value in the shitter. People that buy them, even for "a song", are very short sighted.

Your average working class person, office workers etc, people who commute to work, are all panicking here, or starting to, and are thinking of ways of changing their gas consumption habits. Some are of course clueless and don't seem to care, that is until gas goes above $150 a litre, then they'll clue in pretty quick.

Me, I have a fairly economica V-6, I work from home, thus I only drive it maybe two or three times a week, just to go to the store, run errands, or drive out to the parent's house in the burbs for a visit. I tank up maybe once every 4-5 weeks. :D

I honestly have to thank you for your posts - I am aware my preconceived ideas of USA consumerism can be vastly out of line with the reality of the situation and it's always good to know more about world affairs.

You should post your engine size on the poll I've made here before it disappears into the ether.

CDSmith · 06-09-2008, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by testpie

You should post your engine size on the poll I've made here before it disappears into the ether.

Done and done.

Odin · 06-09-2008, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Who said it was any great surprise? Bitching does not have to mean people are surprised.

Bitching can sometimes mean that people just don't like the price of something.

And yes, is that even happening over here?... yes, it is. In fact it's been in the news quite frequently of late, people losing money on their SUV's left and right, people trading them in and getting much less than they thought, and buying smaller more economical vehicles. The wave has started. Bus ridership is up lately and I suspect it's going to keep rising, thus eventually the demand for gas is going to go down, way down in fact. People will simply drive less, drive smarter, and bus it more.

The oil companies are doing themselves no favors by continually upping their prices. The higher they raise th e price the less gas they're going to sell, period.

One thing you're leaving out here is the demand elsewhere in the world is rising. China, India, Brazil, etc. They can't magically start pulling another 10 million more barrels out of the ground per day and refining it, so it makes sense. Current demand is about 85 million barrels a day I believe, and current supply matches that. In around 6 months (thanks to the growing economies of the world) demand is expected to rise to around 86.5 million barrels a day, and supply is expected to rise by about 300,000 barrels.

This bullshit about getting OPEC to simply pull another few millions barrels a day out of nowhere is just that, bullshit. Supply is actually at about it's peak, so with demand still predicted to rise over the next year at current prices do you really think they care that people in the West are riding more buses or trains? Don't think so, demand is only going one way for the time being, and that direction is the same as their profit - up.

CDSmith · 06-09-2008, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief

One thing you're leaving out here is the demand elsewhere in the world is rising. China, India, Brazil, etc. They can't magically start pulling another 10 million more barrels out of the ground per day and refining it, so it makes sense. Current demand is about 85 million barrels a day I believe, and current supply matches that. In around 6 months (thanks to the growing economies of the world) demand is expected to rise to around 86.5 million barrels a day, and supply is expected to rise by about 300,000 barrels.

This bullshit about getting OPEC to simply pull another few millions barrels a day out of nowhere is just that, bullshit. Supply is actually at about it's peak, so with demand still predicted to rise over the next year at current prices do you really think they care that people in the West are riding more buses or trains? Don't think so, demand is only going one way for the time being, and that direction is the same as their profit - up.

True, for the global picture, yes. But it will affect N. American interests to a degree. Also, if several hundred million people across Europe and N America go downsizing their vehicles and using public transportation more and driving less and buying less gas across the board (which they are starting to do right now, all of it), that definitely will affect the oil business somewhat at least. How can it not?

I'm not saying it will cause prices to drop, that's fairly naive at this point. But if the Chinese etc start to do the same due to rising prices over there, well, I'm not willing to say one way or the other how that would affect things. I do know that continually raising oil prices isn't the smartest thing OPEC can do. It's obvious that the higher the price at the pump is, the less people in general are going to drive, the more economical vehicles they are going to buy.

Of course, if they actually WANT demand to go down, they're going about it the right way. Price it right out of 50 or 70% of the world's population's budget and demand for gas will always go down. Has to. Something has to give eventually though, because with higher fuel costs comes higher transportation costs, which results in higher food costs, and higher costs for pretty much any consumable item that has to be transported before being sold.

I'll say it again, something has got to give eventually.

teomaxxx · 06-09-2008, 09:01 AM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai.../ccview109.xml

"Crude is now moving almost reflexively as a sort of "anti-dollar", a currency on steroids with eight times leverage. No matter that the global economy is slowing hard. Bad is good for oil in the topsy-turvy world of commodity funds."

This is what you got, when you have FED and Treasury trying by low interest rate policy, to bailout wallstreet banks, without any respect to average Joe, while those yet to bankrupted banks are trying now to get out of their own mess by playing a commodity boom too..
Now everyone and his gradmamma are speculating in oil on futher dollar debasment.

Of course there supply problems too, but the speculation factor is big too as we can see on $16 surge in the price of oil on small dollar devaluation over two last trading days last in recent week.

The Central Eurobank head told it few weeks ago: "to cut interest rates at this point would be the same as taxing the people to bail out the banks. Cost of extra inflation would be the ultimate sign of moral hazard to save banks."

now you guys in the US got a pay for monetary policy of your institutions, in addition to supply problems.

Rochard · 06-09-2008, 09:28 AM

Yesterday the medium grade was $4.50 here in Northern California. $4.69 for the good stuff.

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Originally Posted by clickhappy

We have a ton of oil in Alaska, right? Why can't we just drill for it there and rely on ourselves instead of the people fucking us over?

Who cares if it fucks up parts of Alaska's environment, its way over there and we need lower prices to keep our economy going.

I saw a speech on the news the other day where someone was talking about this nature reserve in Alaska talking about how beautiful it was, and then asked everyone in the audience to raise their hand if they had ever been there. The audience was full of nature lovers and tree huggers, and not one of them raised their hand. The truth is we are talking about Alaska here, and only a small percentage of the population will ever make it up there.

Besides, we already drill up there. I've seen Ice Road Truckers.

Nicky · 06-09-2008, 10:01 AM

Around $2,20 here per Liter or ~$8,30 per gallon.....

edit: recounted and it's actualy even higher

emjay · 06-09-2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kievdesign

I know that might hurt American life style, but please
GET RID OF 4L+ TRUCKS FIRST!

Agreed, could never work out why their vehicles needed to be so large.

Americans view cheap oil as some sort of birthright. Half a century ago, they were the world's largest exporter of oil. Now they are the world's largest importer of it.

And the demand for the liquid gold in China and elsewhere is only just begining...

Pleasurepays · 06-09-2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief

All of Alaska holds about 1 years supply for the US

hahaha

what the fuck!!

Pleasurepays · 06-09-2008, 10:52 AM

anyway, kinda nice seeing all the democrats get off the road

BradM · 06-09-2008, 11:03 AM

4.69 here this AM. :D

Pinklinkz · 06-09-2008, 11:10 AM

you guys are lucky .. £1.39.9 a litre here
thats £5.596 per gallon or $11.192 in dollars

so time you stopped your whining and think yourself lucky

CDSmith · 06-09-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinklinkz

you guys are lucky .. £1.39.9 a litre here
thats £5.596 per gallon or $11.192 in dollars

so time you stopped your whining and think yourself lucky

No insult intended, but what an incredibly idiotic thing to say to others. So you have it worse, so what? Do you not think that if the price of gas in Venezuela was raised from 12-14 cents per gallon up to a whopping 40 cents per gallon that the people of Venezuela wouldn't bitch?

Of course they would. Maybe not here, but they'd bitch.

Get over yourself. When people see the price of gas rise by 30, 40, 90+ cents a gallon every few weeks they are going to bitch no matter where they are or whose got it worse.

Pinklinkz · 06-09-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

No insult intended, but what an incredibly idiotic thing to say to others. So you have it worse, so what? Do you not think that if the price of gas in Venezuela was raised from 12-14 cents per gallon up to a whopping 40 cents per gallon that the people of Venezuela wouldn't bitch?

Of course they would. Maybe not here, but they'd bitch.

Get over yourself. When people see the price of gas rise by 30, 40, 90+ cents a gallon every few weeks they are going to bitch no matter where they are or whose got it worse.

since january its gone up by 45p per litre thats like $3.60 per gallon
its gone up by more than what most of you are paying
i recon i have the right to bitch on as much as the next man
as does anyone else in the UK

DateDoc · 06-09-2008, 12:17 PM

Closest gas station here is $4.21 for unleaded. Sams Club is $4.04. I managed to find a station with mid grade for $4.11 last night.

strobi · 06-09-2008, 01:40 PM

9.19$/gallon here

CDSmith · 06-09-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinklinkz

since january its gone up by 45p per litre thats like $3.60 per gallon
its gone up by more than what most of you are paying
i recon i have the right to bitch on as much as the next man
as does anyone else in the UK

Exactly my point, everyone has the right to bitch.

SexualDragon · 06-09-2008, 05:06 PM

1.33 here

clickhappy · 06-09-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rewn

Wait until Iran gets invaded , it will hit $10, easy.

thats what they said about Iraq. We'd see $20 barrels of oil.

clickhappy · 06-09-2008, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Used to be that I always knew a $20/25 credit card charge I did not recognize was probably gas. Now it is like $70 to fill my tank.

Same here, $70 to fill the tank.

06-09-2008, 05:22 PM

$4.73 for premium... Oh well. it's a necessity.

TurboAngel · 06-09-2008, 06:40 PM

Well IMP we ALL have 2 pay wayyyyyyy to much.

Pleasurepays · 06-09-2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by clickhappy

thats what they said about Iraq. We'd see $20 barrels of oil.

exactly! NO WAR FOR OIL!!

er... uhm....

anyway.... what about that global warming....

dav3 · 06-09-2008, 09:20 PM

Holly · 06-09-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dav3

I'd rather pay $6 a gallon than drive that.

seeric · 06-09-2008, 09:41 PM

4.00?

gas here in porn valley is 4.87 now. station owner told me its going to be 5.50 by end of june.

dav3 · 06-09-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Holly

I'd rather pay $6 a gallon than drive that.

You apparently didn't read the link.

Holly · 06-09-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dav3

You apparently didn't read the link.

I clicked on it and there was a picture of an ugly car. That was all I saw.

dav3 · 06-09-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Holly

That was all I saw.

Trust me, I'm not surprised.

Holly · 06-09-2008, 10:26 PM

What the fuck are you talking about??

I told you I looked at your ugly burgundy car. I looked at the white one, too. It looks better than the other. But I would still pay outrageously high gas prices rather than drive what's in that first pic.

tony286 · 06-09-2008, 10:30 PM

actually instead of worrying about Alaska and the 1 years worth of oil, we should find out why iraq is only operating at a third of capacity? Until the dollar comes back gas is going to be expensive,there isnt a shortage.

BlackCrayon · 06-10-2008, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by emjay

Agreed, could never work out why their vehicles needed to be so large.

Americans view cheap oil as some sort of birthright. Half a century ago, they were the world's largest exporter of oil. Now they are the world's largest importer of it.

And the demand for the liquid gold in China and elsewhere is only just begining...

Its not always that easy. Some people need their trucks for work, to tow trailers/boats, etc.

BlackCrayon · 06-10-2008, 06:01 AM

"There is no justification for the current rise in prices," Saudi Arabia says..

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...y/5828380.html

CDSmith · 06-10-2008, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dav3

Trust me, I'm not surprised.

That's badass.

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Signaling a rapid advancement in its fuel cell vehicle technology, Honda today announced that it will begin production in Japan of its next generation FCX hydrogen powered fuel cell vehicle (FCV) in three to four years. The FCX Concept vehicle, unveiled just four months ago and now on display at the North American International Auto Show, boasts a fuel cell system that delivers more power in less space, in a unique, low-floor fuel cell platform. The premium fuel cell sedan offers the ultimate in clean-running performance, and represents Honda's vision of future mobility in which vehicles are less dependent on fossil fuels and produce no significant emissions.

Honda's FCX Concept defines a new stage in the evolution of fuel cell vehicle technology. The FCX Concept is designed with a low center of gravity and a full-sized cabin, offering the kind of driving pleasure and roomy interior previously unimaginable in a fuel cell vehicle. The FCX Concept is designed with a short front end to make the most of its unique low-floor platform, creating a comfortably large cabin. A tapered cabin profile and accentuated fender flare create an attractively dynamic look. The FCX Concept is an FCX that delivers style and excitement.

Using an innovative approach, the new, high-efficiency, compact V Flow fuel cell platform makes possible the lowest-floor platform in an FCV ever. Oxygen and hydrogen flow from the top to the bottom of the fuel cell stack (vertical gas flow) and the fuel cells are arranged vertically in the center tunnel (vertebral layout) for new, high-efficiency fuel cell packaging (volume efficiency).

Compact enough to fit neatly into the center tunnel but robust enough to put out 100kW of power, Honda's V Flow fuel cell stack offers space efficiency and high-energy output. The key to fuel cell performance is water management; Honda's new system takes full advantage of gravity to efficiently discharge water formed during electricity generation. This improves performance in sub-zero temperatures, further solving the problem of cold-weather startup that has been a key obstacle to the commercialization of FCV's. Now, with the V Flow fuel cell stack Honda has achieved ultra-low-temperature start-up performance on par with that of a gasoline engine. The FCX Concept drive train features three energy-efficient motors- one 80kW in the front and a 25kW space-efficient motor in each rear wheel, leaving ample room for a spacious cabin.

One barrier to FCV commercialization has been the need for high-capacity yet lightweight and compact hydrogen storage. Honda has now developed a new approach to expanding storage capacity, a newly developed hydrogen absorption material in the tank doubles capacity to 5 kg of hydrogen at 5000 PSI, extending cruising range to 350 miles, equivalent to that of a gasoline-engine car.

Approaching the vehicle, the driver is recognized by vehicle sensors and intelligent cameras unlocking the doors. The driving unit also automatically sets the steering wheel, accelerator pedal, and instrument panel to the optimal position for the driver. The instrument panel tilts up and down 45 degrees in response to vehicle speed to give either a sense of security or a relaxed feel. A system installed in the instrument panel senses the driver's line of sight shifting toward menu icons, and operates switches accordingly, allowing the driver hands-free operation of audio, AC and other systems.

As part of its effort to ensure the viability of a hydrogen-based society, Honda is developing the Home Energy Station (HES), a comprehensive system designed to meet residential energy needs by supplying electricity and heat in addition to hydrogen fuel for vehicles. Generating hydrogen from natural gas supplied for residential use, the HES system also offers consumers the convenience of refueling hydrogen-powered fuel cell vehicles at home. The system is equipped with fuel cells that generate and supply electricity to the home, and is configured to recover the heat produced during power generation for domestic water heating. In addition to reducing carbon dioxide emissions by some 40 percent, the HES system is expected to lower the total running cost of household electricity, gas and vehicle fuel by 50 percent.

Interested to see what the other auto makers will come out with in this line. Better looking hydrogen fuel cell cars can't be far off on the horizon.

ilbb · 06-10-2008, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TimBlaze

okay so gas just hit $4.09 here..... this is starting to get a little crazy....who the hell is responsible for this shit?!?!?!

$4.09 per gallon? that's $1.08/liter - that's fucking cheap!!!

In EU, specially in my country (cz) gas costs $2 / liter - that's $7,56 per gallon

Pleasurepays · 06-10-2008, 07:21 AM

everyone's a capitalist when they feel its working in their benefit. the moment there is a backlash... suddenly everything is unfair, not working and broken and needs to change radically.

here's an idea... how about a free market economy? this is America right? the market will adjust, prices will come back down, vehicle fuel economies will improve tremendously, SUV's will become extinct for the most part, energy policies will change, alternative fuels will be explored more etc etc etc. Let the market do its job and suck it up. you had a good run. get over it.

as Europeans are pointing out, we have had absurdly low gas prices forever.

tranza · 06-10-2008, 10:05 AM

It's getting crazy!

06-10-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

everyone's a capitalist when they feel its working in their benefit. the moment there is a backlash... suddenly everything is unfair, not working and broken and needs to change radically.

here's an idea... how about a free market economy? this is America right? the market will adjust, prices will come back down, vehicle fuel economies will improve tremendously, SUV's will become extinct for the most part, energy policies will change, alternative fuels will be explored more etc etc etc. Let the market do its job and suck it up. you had a good run. get over it.

as Europeans are pointing out, we have had absurdly low gas prices forever.

I agree with you on almost everything you've said (the sentiment about Americans being capitalist when it pleases them), but as always, I need to reiterate this:
Europeans drive significantly less and they have subway systems in place.

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teomaxxx Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,734	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai.../ccview109.xml "Crude is now moving almost reflexively as a sort of "anti-dollar", a currency on steroids with eight times leverage. No matter that the global economy is slowing hard. Bad is good for oil in the topsy-turvy world of commodity funds." This is what you got, when you have FED and Treasury trying by low interest rate policy, to bailout wallstreet banks, without any respect to average Joe, while those yet to bankrupted banks are trying now to get out of their own mess by playing a commodity boom too.. Now everyone and his gradmamma are speculating in oil on futher dollar debasment. Of course there supply problems too, but the speculation factor is big too as we can see on $16 surge in the price of oil on small dollar devaluation over two last trading days last in recent week. The Central Eurobank head told it few weeks ago: "to cut interest rates at this point would be the same as taxing the people to bail out the banks. Cost of extra inflation would be the ultimate sign of moral hazard to save banks." now you guys in the US got a pay for monetary policy of your institutions, in addition to supply problems. Last edited by teomaxxx; 06-09-2008 at 09:04 AM..

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06-09-2008, 05:29 AM	#51
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	well i think its normal the people in the US bitch about it because they are used to dirt cheap gas prices... its all about what is/was normal where you live also the US is much more wide spread than european countries so the make alot more miles all in all every country in the world suffers, the gas prices here are completely through the roof. ($9,75 a gallon)

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Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	i pay twice as much as you guys... trust me.. it will get worse

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bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,032	I WISH it was $4.00. I just saw $4.69 two blocks from my house.

06-09-2008, 07:20 AM	#60
xentech Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: England Posts: 1,405	There's no money in petrol

06-09-2008, 10:52 AM	#72
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	anyway, kinda nice seeing all the democrats get off the road

06-09-2008, 11:03 AM	#73
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	4.69 here this AM. :D

06-09-2008, 11:10 AM	#74
Pinklinkz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 658	you guys are lucky .. £1.39.9 a litre here thats £5.596 per gallon or $11.192 in dollars so time you stopped your whining and think yourself lucky __________________ Link Exchanges Wanted www.pinklinkz.com

06-09-2008, 12:17 PM	#77
DateDoc Outside looking in. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: To Hell You Ride Posts: 14,243	Closest gas station here is $4.21 for unleaded. Sams Club is $4.04. I managed to find a station with mid grade for $4.11 last night. __________________

06-09-2008, 01:40 PM	#78
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	9.19$/gallon here

06-09-2008, 05:06 PM	#80
SexualDragon Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 3,038	1.33 here __________________ Make 2009 a great year with Tiffany Preston 436-127-934

06-09-2008, 05:22 PM	#83
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	$4.73 for premium... Oh well. it's a necessity.

06-09-2008, 06:40 PM	#84
TurboAngel H.B.I.C. Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NC Posts: 30,122	Well IMP we ALL have 2 pay wayyyyyyy to much.

06-09-2008, 09:20 PM	#86
dav3 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,348	__________________ Webmasters :: Juicy Ads :: ACWM :: Crak Revenue :: Money Tree

06-09-2008, 09:41 PM	#88
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	4.00? gas here in porn valley is 4.87 now. station owner told me its going to be 5.50 by end of june.

06-09-2008, 10:26 PM	#92
Holly Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jesusland Posts: 10,017	What the fuck are you talking about?? I told you I looked at your ugly burgundy car. I looked at the white one, too. It looks better than the other. But I would still pay outrageously high gas prices rather than drive what's in that first pic. __________________ War National Damn Champions Eagle Last edited by Holly; 06-09-2008 at 10:27 PM..

06-09-2008, 10:30 PM	#93
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	actually instead of worrying about Alaska and the 1 years worth of oil, we should find out why iraq is only operating at a third of capacity? Until the dollar comes back gas is going to be expensive,there isnt a shortage. Last edited by tony299; 06-09-2008 at 10:32 PM..

06-10-2008, 06:01 AM	#95
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	"There is no justification for the current rise in prices," Saudi Arabia says.. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...y/5828380.html __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

06-10-2008, 07:21 AM	#98
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	everyone's a capitalist when they feel its working in their benefit. the moment there is a backlash... suddenly everything is unfair, not working and broken and needs to change radically. here's an idea... how about a free market economy? this is America right? the market will adjust, prices will come back down, vehicle fuel economies will improve tremendously, SUV's will become extinct for the most part, energy policies will change, alternative fuels will be explored more etc etc etc. Let the market do its job and suck it up. you had a good run. get over it. as Europeans are pointing out, we have had absurdly low gas prices forever. Last edited by Pleasurepays; 06-10-2008 at 07:22 AM..

06-10-2008, 10:05 AM	#99
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	It's getting crazy! __________________ I'm just a newbie.