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Barefootsies · 06-11-2008, 12:01 PM

Network Management

Comcast is committed to providing the best online experience possible for all of its customers. The company uses reasonable network management practices that are consistent with industry standards. Comcast maintains an Acceptable Use Policy ("AUP") located at http://www.comcast.net/terms/use/ for its Comcast High-Speed Internet customers. The AUP and the frequently asked questions ("FAQs") located at http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/inde...anagement19163 discuss why Comcast manages its network and how it may do so.
Network Management Trial

The company announced in March 2008 that it will switch to a new network management technique by the end of the year for managing bandwidth use and congestion. This new technique does not look at particular protocols or applications. Instead, it will focus on the bandwidth consumption activity of individual customers who are contributing to congestion on Comcast's network. The technique measures only aggregate bandwidth consumption, not the protocol or content being used by customers.

The first step for using this new network management technique is to run a trial of the technology in a market of Comcast High-Speed Internet customers. The trial will allow Comcast to better understand how this technique works in a "real world" setting. It will also let the company try different settings and learn from trial results in order to fine tune this new technique so Comcast can deliver the best online experience possible for all of its customers.

Comcast will run the first trial of this network management technique in the Chambersburg, PA and Warrenton, VA areas. The company currently expects to start the trial on June 5th and run it for 30 days.
How Does the New Network Management Technique Work?

The new network management technique is designed to ensure, to the greatest extent possible, that all Comcast High-Speed Internet customers have fair and equal access to the Internet and to bandwidth resources. Without it, some customers would experience poor performance ? for example, slow access to e-mail, sluggish web surfing, or low quality streaming audio and video ? during periods of network congestion.

Most customers will notice little to no change in their Internet experience when the new network management technique is working to help deliver a consistent, excellent online experience. The new network management technique will result in delayed response times for Internet traffic only for those customers who are using more than their fair share of available Internet resources at the time. The network management technique manages those customers' Internet traffic until their usage falls below established bandwidth usage thresholds or until network congestion ends.

During this trial, Comcast will learn more about how this network management technique will affect customers. Comcast expects that network management will only affect a small percentage of users during periods of network congestion, while ensuring an excellent online experience for the vast majority of our users.

We will provide periodic updates on this webpage on our trials and our progress in transitioning to this new network management technique.

tony286 · 06-11-2008, 12:04 PM

Dsl looks better and better

u-Bob · 06-11-2008, 12:19 PM

damn :/

IllTestYourGirls · 06-11-2008, 12:22 PM

unlimited internet will soon not be unlimited. I bet they start charging more to those who use more?

Persius · 06-11-2008, 01:03 PM

fuck i hope cox doesnt do this

gleem · 06-11-2008, 01:06 PM

they have the country by the ballz till DSL gets as fast, then they will both have us all by the ballz

mikesouth · 06-11-2008, 01:09 PM

Push verizon to get fios in your area

and BTW thats what you fucking get when you allow your local politicians to grant a cable company a monopoly.

BSleazy · 06-11-2008, 01:38 PM

My comcast cable tv/internet hasn't been on much since saturday. Between that and no power things have been really shitty here in Michigan.

GatorB · 06-11-2008, 01:44 PM

Please quit bitching. It's TRIAL and unless you live in Chambersburg, PA and Warrenton, VA you have no worries. Oh and the cap is 250 GB. That's more than enough for anyone not doing anything illegal.

GatorB · 06-11-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Persius

fuck i hope cox doesnt do this

Cox already has a cap they choose not to enforce it. It's 60 GB.

GatorB · 06-11-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

unlimited internet will soon not be unlimited. I bet they start charging more to those who use more?

and the problem is? do you have sites? do you have hosting? When your site uses more bandwidth does it not cost you more? of course it does.

Chauncy · 06-11-2008, 01:51 PM

I love comcast I mean really where can I get these speeds anywhere else for 60 bucks a month

GatorB · 06-11-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Dsl looks better and better

You mean like at&t?

AT&T Embraces BitTorrent, May Consider Usage-Based Pricing

http://blog.wired.com/business/2008/...braces-bi.html

GatorB · 06-11-2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chauncy

I love comcast I mean really where can I get these speeds anywhere else for 60 bucks a month

That's with speedboost which is temporary. I'd like to see an actual test without speed boost. If you think you're getting 21 Mbps constantly you're very obtuse.

Hollywood Horwitz · 06-11-2008, 01:55 PM

Time Warner is the worst, then goes Comcast IMO.

sandman! · 06-11-2008, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB

That's with speedboost which is temporary. I'd like to see an actual test without speed boost. If you think you're getting 21 Mbps constantly you're very obtuse.

im getting 9-10mbs down and can hit it for hours in end.

Chauncy · 06-11-2008, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB

That's with speedboost which is temporary. I'd like to see an actual test without speed boost. If you think you're getting 21 Mbps constantly you're very obtuse.

I know I my plan is for 16Mbps/2Mbps with a static ip I probably get somewhere around 12 to 13 on average but still great for 59.99 a month

pornguy · 06-11-2008, 02:21 PM

They have been testing a system in Sandiego for a few years now, but I have not heard much more about it. It uses the electricity, instead of the phone or cable.

GatorB · 06-11-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

im getting 9-10mbs down and can hit it for hours in end.

On a 16 Mbps tier I would complain. if that's what you have.

GatorB · 06-11-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

They have been testing a system in Sandiego for a few years now, but I have not heard much more about it. It uses the electricity, instead of the phone or cable.

It's called BPL, and it's pretty much dead.

Due · 06-11-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

and the problem is? do you have sites? do you have hosting? When your site uses more bandwidth does it not cost you more? of course it does.

DSL / Cable etc is sold as "capped lines" saying you have the speed up to this, and you pay this.
If you sell 100 capped lines at 10 mbit, but have only 500 mbit it's not fair to you limit someone to 5 mbit because they use 9 mbit average.
Would you bitch if your 10 mbit capped server got limitted to 5 mbit because there was many other customers that also needed bandwidth, and it should be shared in a fair way ?

GatorB · 06-11-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Due

DSL / Cable etc is sold as "capped lines" saying you have the speed up to this, and you pay this.
If you sell 100 capped lines at 10 mbit, but have only 500 mbit it's not fair to you limit someone to 5 mbit because they use 9 mbit average.
Would you bitch if your 10 mbit capped server got limitted to 5 mbit because there was many other customers that also needed bandwidth, and it should be shared in a fair way ?

They're not capping speed. They're capping the amount you can download before overage fees hit. In Comcast's case their cap is going to be 250 GB a month.

sandman! · 06-11-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

On a 16 Mbps tier I would complain. if that's what you have.

no they claim 8 or 10 here

tony286 · 06-11-2008, 03:32 PM

I think its more than a trial clips4 sale wrote its producers about it.I guess people were having problems uploading.

qxm · 06-11-2008, 03:36 PM

I'm glad to have dsl... that bandwidth quota thing is absolute bullcrap...

tony286 · 06-11-2008, 03:38 PM

question since youre not in a big pipe on dsl like cable are the speeds more consistent?

GatorB · 06-11-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by qxm

I'm glad to have dsl... that bandwidth quota thing is absolute bullcrap...

Oh expect is sometime in the near future. Companies that are testing/about to test/or are considering caps.

Time Warner
Comcast
Cox
Charter
AT&T

and even Verizon is mulling it over.

tony286 · 06-11-2008, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB

Oh expect is sometime in the near future. Companies that are testing/about to test/or are considering caps.

Time Warner
Comcast
Cox
Charter
AT&T

and even Verizon is mulling it over.

This is their way of getting around net neutrality. They seem to forget they got huge tax breaks to build that backend.

Iron Fist · 06-11-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Dsl looks better and better

Yeah I guess if your the 1% of users who use more than their fair share of resources. Unfortunately, the people who are going to bitch expect the world on a platter for $42.95 a month. Comcast has basically said they can kiss their collective asses going forward.

GatorB · 06-11-2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Yeah I guess if your the 1% of users who use more than their fair share of resources. Unfortunately, the people who are going to bitch expect the world on a platter for $42.95 a month. Comcast has basically said they can kiss their collective asses going forward.

first of all according to Comcast less than 1% of their users use more than 250 GB. Yet many of the other 99% bitch because they have zero clue as to how much they actually use. The other 99% should realize they will actually have better more stable connections if ISPs get rid of the bandwidth hogs who are doing nothing but stealing shit off of bittorrent

tony286 · 06-11-2008, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead

Yeah I guess if your the 1% of users who use more than their fair share of resources. Unfortunately, the people who are going to bitch expect the world on a platter for $42.95 a month. Comcast has basically said they can kiss their collective asses going forward.

I dont know how much we use. Probably not in the 1%. When we rented a loft, you got hi speed for $25 a month. It was a shared T-1 and some times it would get shit slow. The problem wasnt us porners and my wife was on webcam 5 hrs a day. It was the p2p people leaving it open all the time. He had no other option,he started banning them from the network.

Tat2Jr · 06-11-2008, 10:00 PM

Vote with your dollars and switch to Verizon (If you have that option), and let them know why.

GatorB · 06-11-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tat2Jr

Vote with your dollars and switch to Verizon (If you have that option), and let them know why.

If I had FiOS available I'd switch to that. Caps have nothing to do with it. Heck 250 GB is MORE than enough for me. Now Time Warner's proposed 40 GB is a bit on the miserly side.

GatorB · 06-11-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I dont know how much we use. Probably not in the 1%

download DU Meter for every computer. It has 30 free trial. Last month I used only 24 GB and I thought I was a heavy user. I just started using it on my son's computer. So far he's on pace to use 10-12 GB a month. Add in maybe 15 GB for my son playing on Xbox Live( and that's stretching it ) I'd use 60-65 GB a month total. If I suscribed to MLB.tv and watch every Rays game at the highest stream quality that would be another 40 GB a month. So I can say that even a 125 GB cap would be more than enough for me personally.

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