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Old 06-13-2008, 09:41 AM   #101
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I saw a news piece on Scalia. He had perfect attendance, and perfect straight A's in every single grade of school he ever took.

You HAVE to know he is NOT representative of 99.9% of America with stats like that..

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Old 06-13-2008, 10:13 AM   #102
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smokey, do you know where these detainees are coming from? we arent picking off random muslims off the street.
actually some cia guys were charged for doing exactly that , kidnapping people off the street to send to gitmo
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you can make up hypotheticals, but this is reality...
seems like you are trying all the hypotheticals.

Show me any proof any of the detainees at gitmo committed a crime ?
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is it fair that 3000 people had to die for no reason on 9/11 because islamic terrorists made a choice to invade this country and kill our citizens.
is it fair 10 times that amount have died in iraq because of what they would call " christian terorrists" made a choice to invade their country and kill its citizens ?

p.s. i wouldnt call a dozen muslims with bombs an "invasion"


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were they thinking about our human rights or a court of law when they decided to murder our fellow citizens in cold blood.
none of them are in gitmo
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i would rather kick ass now and take names later...
you would rather commit torture on innocent people now ?


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anyone detained at gitmo would jump at the chance to slit our throats the second we let them out.
so you say yet you have given us not a shred of evidence to believe you

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they are terrorists or associated with terrorism otherwise they wouldnt be there.
great rational. so who decides who is a terrorist , you keep forgetting to answer that question.

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this is war, not save the whales

lay down the pipe son.
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Old 06-13-2008, 10:44 AM   #103
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Stay tuned ... Rob will be back in a couple of hours ... from his day job at



It is a hobby for him, since he is so fucking rich ....
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Old 06-13-2008, 10:54 AM   #104
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if someone turned you in for money and said you are a terrorist and you are not, too bad for you for chosing bad friends..



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Old 06-13-2008, 11:50 AM   #105
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So this ruling pertains to just US citizens, or does this ruling pertain to everyone in the world that we may have an interaction with?

Do prisoners of war fall into this ruling as well?
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Old 06-13-2008, 12:12 PM   #106
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i have a great idea...

why dont you all just move out of this country...

no point in arguing with terrorist sympathizers and people who hate this country.

some of you should be charged with treason..

please move to a socialist country and save all the terrorists you want =)

i am proud to defend my country that allows me the freedoms i have.
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Old 06-13-2008, 12:30 PM   #107
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i have a great idea...

why dont you all just move out of this country...

no point in arguing with terrorist sympathizers and people who hate this country.

some of you should be charged with treason..

please move to a socialist country and save all the terrorists you want =)

i am proud to defend my country that allows me the freedoms i have.
You aren't the brightest person are you. Nobody is sympathizing with terrorists... These people aren't terrorists, they are no threat, never were, and this does not help us - it creates more terror. Something, your closed mind clearly can't see.

You think more like a terrorist, kill, kill, kill.. who cares who.. That's terror you ass hat.

And btw, I can say I'm proud to have defended my country's freedoms. Unless you have been in the military, which from above it sounds like you haven't, you can't say that.

Having an argument where every person, thinks you are wrong, is not defending anything but yourself.
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Old 06-13-2008, 12:39 PM   #108
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You aren't the brightest person are you. Nobody is sympathizing with terrorists... These people aren't terrorists, they are no threat, never were, and this does not help us - it creates more terror. Something, your closed mind clearly can't see.

You think more like a terrorist, kill, kill, kill.. who cares who.. That's terror you ass hat.

And btw, I can say I'm proud to have defended my country's freedoms. Unless you have been in the military, which from above it sounds like you haven't, you can't say that.

Having an argument where every person, thinks you are wrong, is not defending anything but yourself.
so let me get this straight.. you believe we are holding thousands of absolutely innocent law abiding citizens who have no links to terrorism at all and are just average every day citizens.

thats absolutely ridiculous.

there may be some cases where this is the case, but that is just a byproduct of the process.

the reason they are being held is because it takes time to thoroughly investigate links and gather information for 1 reason only.. to protect this country from future terroristic acts.

if you would rather let them go free prematurely and hope they had nothing to do with anything, you are putting our nation at risk when it could be prevented.

when it comes to a matter of national security i do not give a shit about holding "suspects" indefinitely until they are proven to be innocent
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Old 06-13-2008, 12:43 PM   #109
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ok guys, nice debating

im out for the weekend

take care.

no hard feelings or anything personal

glad we can all agree to disagree
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Old 06-13-2008, 12:53 PM   #110
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so let me get this straight.. you believe we are holding thousands of absolutely innocent law abiding citizens who have no links to terrorism at all and are just average every day citizens.

thats absolutely ridiculous.

there may be some cases where this is the case, but that is just a byproduct of the process.

the reason they are being held is because it takes time to thoroughly investigate links and gather information for 1 reason only.. to protect this country from future terroristic acts.

if you would rather let them go free prematurely and hope they had nothing to do with anything, you are putting our nation at risk when it could be prevented.

when it comes to a matter of national security i do not give a shit about holding "suspects" indefinitely until they are proven to be innocent
Yeah, the majority of the people are law abiding citizens, doing nothing wrong. If it's 1000's or 100's, it's like 60% or more are innocent, straight up kidnapped people.

Nothing wrong with holding them, but give them a military trial so due process can be upheld. Doing this would have stopped the snatching of innocent people early on.

You do understand that, we are doing exactly what we are fighting against?

National security.. again, 30 times now? This change is a good thing, it made us safer. Less people will continue to hate us, we should not stoop the terrorist level and act like terrorist ourselves. We should stand tall, lead by example.. We want the world to think we are strong and noble.. something we have lost since bush took us to war.
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Old 06-13-2008, 01:03 PM   #111
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i have a great idea...

why dont you all just move out of this country...

no point in arguing with terrorist sympathizers and people who hate this country.

some of you should be charged with treason..

please move to a socialist country and save all the terrorists you want =)

i am proud to defend my country that allows me the freedoms i have.
How exactly have you defended this country fantasy bitch? I know you never wore a uniform and arguing on a messege board does not make you a patriot. Man your an idiot.
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Old 06-13-2008, 01:04 PM   #112
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ok guys, nice debating

im out for the weekend

take care.

no hard feelings or anything personal

glad we can all agree to disagree
You mean your off to drive your pizza hut delivery truck?
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Old 06-13-2008, 02:50 PM   #113
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You mean your off to drive your pizza hut delivery truck?
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:28 PM   #114
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So this ruling pertains to just US citizens, or does this ruling pertain to everyone in the world that we may have an interaction with?

Do prisoners of war fall into this ruling as well?
This ruling pertains to those that are detained by the US Government be they citizens or not...they are entiled to adjucation by the courts. POW's are a different class of detainee and there are laws in place to deal with POW's.
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:41 PM   #115
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This was a very close 5-4 split decision and shows how close we are to becoming a facist state. Just one more Supreme Court appointee by the Bush clique and all our individual rights will be up for reconsideration. Remember that the next President will appoint two and, maybe, three justices so let's get some more liberal votes on that Bench.
Chances are that it'll be 3 liberals retiring next. They just need to replace them with NEW Liberals to keep some sort of balance. Replace 2 of them with Conservatives and it'll be "interesting" to see the USA in 15 years. That's one of, if not THE the most important reasons to not vote McCain this time around.
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Old 06-13-2008, 06:26 PM   #116
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i have a great idea...

why dont you all just move out of this country...

no point in arguing with terrorist sympathizers and people who hate this country.

some of you should be charged with treason..

please move to a socialist country and save all the terrorists you want =)

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