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Old 06-13-2008, 07:51 AM   #1
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ClubYurizan.com - Yurizan Beltrans Official Site ~~Video~~

Over the past few months since we had launched ClubYurizan.com we have been under fire from Yurizan Beltrans old webmasters claiming our site is not legitimate and a fake and that they still run Yurizan official site.

Many people know us know we play fair and honest and we have yet to go after these guys for slandering our name and our reputation after they have called us Liars etc... We had given them a chance to just drop it and move on as they should know that Yurizan was done with them put they kept the lies going.

Gompo, nrmone2001 and nickey1952 are her old webmasters from what I can tell who have been posting the false info about how they still run the official site, along with making threads with false info...

Here are a few threads...

Saying we opened the site without Yurizan knowledge: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=820306

Promoting their "official" site again: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=831115

But this is what put us over the top and decided to put an end to these little games...

One of the TOP affiliates asked me a few weeks ago who really runs the official site and I said we do without a question. I was then told that apparently the guys above would be shooting her this weekend for new content. Confused how this was possible I said okay only way to prove it then is to take a picture of Yurizan holding a recent news paper that will provide enough evidence to if these guys were still dealing with her.

Well the weekend came and gone and I got a messages saying there indeed was a photo shoot and indeed it was with Yurizan and there was a picture of her with a news paper. I have never seen the picture and still have not to this day but clearly that was enough evidence for the affiliate to still promote them and not us.

So we left it at that until we spoke to Yurizan again who explains she went there to shoot for SCORE Magazine and the photographer used that time to shot that and lie to her what it was about.

nrmone2001 admits to be the photographer in this post: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...8&postcount=32
So we can only say classy guy to you for doing that on Score's dollar.

I really could go and on and on about the whole situation as it?s been a mess but we will just let the video speak for itself and if your still promoting her old site you can decide if you want to still work with webmasters who play such dirty tricks or promote the good guys who plair fair and take care of their webmasters!

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Thank you to everyone who has been promoting the Official site and to everyone else that plans on promoting the site feel free to hit me up and let?s get you what you need to get the sales rocking!
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Old 06-13-2008, 08:04 AM   #2
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Pretty baffling behaviour there it seems.

One thing I do know is that Medium Pimpin are rocking the joint
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Old 06-13-2008, 08:13 AM   #3
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cool , yurizan is hot!!!!
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Old 06-13-2008, 08:19 AM   #4
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yurizan is hot... i don't promote her but if i did my i'd do it through you guys who have seemed to handle this whole situation much more professionally than the other guys...

good luck with her official site!
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Old 06-13-2008, 08:22 AM   #5
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Video wont play for me for some reason. Most likely my connection which is screwy today.
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Old 06-13-2008, 08:23 AM   #6
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ClubYurizan.com rocks great video Btw
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Old 06-13-2008, 08:26 AM   #7
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Thanks Everyone.

Key here is to just shine the light on the whole situation.

Many have say she must have a golden pussy or its too much trouble for a girl etc... but Yurizan is a great girl and a great person to deal with and I think this video just highlites her attitude and personality.

Its not fun for us to get our names tossed around in a negative light nor is it for her.

So if anyone has any more questions or issues about the situation feel free to email me.



And that you for your support to all the belivers...
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Old 06-13-2008, 08:31 AM   #8
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As I've said before, some damn idiots in this business.

The MP boys got my sympathies on this, and anybody who knows em would have figured that this was BS. I haven't dealt with the other guys before and definitely won't be now.

Anybody wants a testimonial on how Medium Pimpin do business, my ICQ is in my sig.

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Old 06-13-2008, 08:57 AM   #9
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Old 06-13-2008, 09:14 AM   #10
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Video wont play for me for some reason. Most likely my connection which is screwy today.
If you are still having issues getting the video to play, let me know and I can upload the wmv file. That goes for anyone else as well.
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Yurizan is smokin' hot and MP rocks!
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Are you still crying about this? Fact is still that you knew there was a site out there, I am pretty sure that her checks from sweetyurizan just cashed wonderfully for her and that she accepted each and everyone of them.

In this video you are clearly putting words in her mouth and you can see that she is uncomfortable talking about it and that she doesn't seem to really know what is going on. It's easy to dangle a lot of promises in front of a porn girl over a site and she will say whatever you want on camera every experienced shooter knows this.

It still comes down to the fact that you pursued it and when the first webmaster that had been dealing with her for a long time points it out you go crying and now you are doing everything to slam him, you make her do it on video, but you are clearly putting words in her mouth. I think it is sad that a program like MP went this far, and then keeps on going.

Just my 2 cents here
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sounds like a messed up problem.. good luck getting this cleared up!
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Are you still crying about this? Fact is still that you knew there was a site out there, I am pretty sure that her checks from sweetyurizan just cashed wonderfully for her and that she accepted each and everyone of them.

In this video you are clearly putting words in her mouth and you can see that she is uncomfortable talking about it and that she doesn't seem to really know what is going on. It's easy to dangle a lot of promises in front of a porn girl over a site and she will say whatever you want on camera every experienced shooter knows this.

It still comes down to the fact that you pursued it and when the first webmaster that had been dealing with her for a long time points it out you go crying and now you are doing everything to slam him, you make her do it on video, but you are clearly putting words in her mouth. I think it is sad that a program like MP went this far, and then keeps on going.

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Old 06-13-2008, 09:44 AM   #15
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Are you still crying about this? Fact is still that you knew there was a site out there, I am pretty sure that her checks from sweetyurizan just cashed wonderfully for her and that she accepted each and everyone of them.

In this video you are clearly putting words in her mouth and you can see that she is uncomfortable talking about it and that she doesn't seem to really know what is going on. It's easy to dangle a lot of promises in front of a porn girl over a site and she will say whatever you want on camera every experienced shooter knows this.

It still comes down to the fact that you pursued it and when the first webmaster that had been dealing with her for a long time points it out you go crying and now you are doing everything to slam him, you make her do it on video, but you are clearly putting words in her mouth. I think it is sad that a program like MP went this far, and then keeps on going.

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No one is putting words in her mouth. She was asked questions. Her comfort level with the interview could be attributed to a lot of things not the least of which could be she's not happy with all this drama. Or maybe even she's not a great public speaker. Asking her to do a video to put to rest the garbage that's promoted by others is a definitive way to clear up things. Now asking her to take a pic with a news paper under false pretenses during a completely distant photo shoot is lower than low. MP happens to be one of the most upfront group of people in the biz. Over the years I've dealt with them, they have continuously showed how professional they are.
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It still comes down to the fact that you pursued it and when the first webmaster that had been dealing with her for a long time points it out you go crying and now you are doing everything to slam him
TBH looking at the recent threads on this, it looks more like the original Webmaster being butt-hurt that he no longer has her contract, and trying to put across that sweetyurizan is going to be the official site forever, with you backing him up.

Here he is calling them scumbags, for example:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hlight=yurizan

Models move on guys, deal with it. I'm sure if you know your stuff you'll make your cash with a new model on your program, as long as all your shit talking doesn't scare them all off...
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Are you still crying about this? Fact is still that you knew there was a site out there, I am pretty sure that her checks from sweetyurizan just cashed wonderfully for her and that she accepted each and everyone of them.

In this video you are clearly putting words in her mouth and you can see that she is uncomfortable talking about it and that she doesn't seem to really know what is going on. It's easy to dangle a lot of promises in front of a porn girl over a site and she will say whatever you want on camera every experienced shooter knows this.

It still comes down to the fact that you pursued it and when the first webmaster that had been dealing with her for a long time points it out you go crying and now you are doing everything to slam him, you make her do it on video, but you are clearly putting words in her mouth. I think it is sad that a program like MP went this far, and then keeps on going.

Just my 2 cents here

Keep drinking the koolaid man... lol we are not the ones wasting others people money to shoot pictures to provide "evidence" that we are still shooting her and then asking to keep it confidential because they know its BS... lol

As for putting words in her mouth.... lol she answerd the questions she spoke her mind.. its not like she reads GFY and all your troll threads. Its not like are holding her ransom and shes doing as we say... lol
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I really really do not understand the fuss about this girl at all.
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Keep drinking the koolaid man... lol we are not the ones wasting others people money to shoot pictures to provide "evidence" that we are still shooting her and then asking to keep it confidential because they know its BS... lol

As for putting words in her mouth.... lol she answerd the questions she spoke her mind.. its not like she reads GFY and all your troll threads. Its not like are holding her ransom and shes doing as we say... lol
I happen to hate koolaid.. to tangy for me.

But let me say this, I have no stakes in this. But I still think it is messed up when one program goes out of it's way to ruin another web masters work. I don't know if pics with a newspaper were taken and if it was under false pretenses or not.

I have nothing with MP, but when a program deliberately tries to fuck up another webmasters work then you can say what you want it is fucked up.

And let's be real you and me and the first webmaster will be around a lot longer then any model, I just always wonder how much it is really worth to mess with each other like that over a model. And the reason for my initial post in this thread is simply because I think this is going too far.

In all honesty webmasters should do business with each other and not trying to fuck each other over. But maybe I haven't been to the GFY school of business long enough.

My last 2 cents in this thread.

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I've known the MP crew for years and they've always done business the right way. Sucks to see all of this unnecessary drama
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I really really do not understand the fuss about this girl at all.
Totally agree, seems she is the problem, and as for her being under contract with one person and then joining another company I think the second company should have made sure or if they knew she had something did it right from the start and there would be no bullshit like there is now over a girl who seems stupid and cant think for herself.

I am sure she will do it MP too and then they will know how it feels. I think this girl is not worth the pain she is causing.
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Totally agree, seems she is the problem, and as for her being under contract with one person and then joining another company I think the second company should have made sure or if they knew she had something did it right from the start and there would be no bullshit like there is now over a girl who seems stupid and cant think for herself.

I am sure she will do it MP too and then they will know how it feels. I think this girl is not worth the pain she is causing.
She's either completely clueless or some sort of criminal evil genius mastermind. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
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She's either completely clueless or some sort of criminal evil genius mastermind. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
Yup Uno, I really doubt she is a genius mastermind, lol

But I hate to see two companies fight over a girl who will be gone in a year or go to another company and cause the same drama.
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How low can you go! they are still scumbags!!!

Little does little Mike aka Eddie how you have to shoot content, little does medium pimpin know I still shoot her for many assignments and have to prove to people the date of shoots. I do not post id's anywhere they do not belong. Little does mediapimps understand she is still a 50% partner in the site and collects 50% of the revenue from the site and since the site is doing better than ever due to fact the content they put up is crappy. You are using this young girl to pimp yourself, good for you. It doesn't rial me, how lower can you go. that is all i have to say. I know the truth, looks like you cornered her real well.
I rest my case
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Little does little Mike aka Eddie how you have to shoot content, little does medium pimpin know I still shoot her for many assignments and have to prove to people the date of shoots. I do not post id's anywhere they do not belong. Little does mediapimps understand she is still a 50% partner in the site and collects 50% of the revenue from the site and since the site is doing better than ever due to fact the content they put up is crappy. You are using this young girl to pimp yourself, good for you. It doesn't rial me, how lower can you go. that is all i have to say. I know the truth, looks like you cornered her real well.
I rest my case
You made her take a pic in front of a newspaper for A "Score magazine shot, then you sent that pic to a huge TGP proving that you are still shooting her for your site, true or false?

Remember I know who you sent this picture to.
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you can say want, I know the truth and that is all that matters. Keep up your little girl stuff and show your true colors.... I have nothing any further to prove, and you should take my content of your website. if your stuff is so good why are you using mine,,,,
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you can say want, I know the truth and that is all that matters.
As for saying you know the truth.. I guess you can only hope the person you sent the picture to does not come forward, because its not our business to put them into all of this but you know you lied.
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you can say want, I know the truth and that is all that matters. Keep up your little girl stuff and show your true colors.... I have nothing any further to prove, and you should take my content of your website. if your stuff is so good why are you using mine,,,,
True are false don't dance around the subject.

And I did not want to go here, but since you asked, she quit shooting for you 6 months ago because she likes the Glamour style better, she even says she owns rights to all of the content you shot of her, but she hates it so much she does not want it on her new site.

As for the old content that you sold to a content broker years ago "5" sets that I bought for GMGB, yea we have had them up, and so does a slew of others who bought it, you make it sound like we stole it.

Personally I don't think your content sucks, just a different style, one is Glam and the other more AMA, to each's own.
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Exactly the professional responds I expected from a MP rep.

Well, it's like this. And, I will type so hopefully you can understand it. Have you ever tried to argue with a 4 year old? It's just not gonna work, there's only so much they can understand. When you make a post like you did that was so full of denial and stupidity, sometimes the only thing you can do is post on their level so that they will better understand. I don't deal with stupidity well and when a mass off stupidity gets thrown in my face I can't take it seriously. And, you, I can not take seriously.

I mean you just got proven wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt and the best you can come up with is that we made her say it? Seriously, if the roles were reversed would you not think the person saying that was a complete retard with an IQ of maybe 89 or 91. I mean not clinically retarded but not the sharpest tool in the shed either.
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that is what you think my friend, I will not stoop to your idiot behavior, I will show you on monday more, I am too busy shooting for another client today and do not have time or effort to answer scumbags and idiot computer nerds that sit behind the computer and drive traffic all day, so read the headline of this this website, and do it...
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that is what you think my friend, I will not stoop to your idiot behavior, I will show you on monday more, I am too busy shooting for another client today and do not have time or effort to answer scumbags and idiot computer nerds that sit behind the computer and drive traffic all day, so read the headline of this this website, and do it...
I will take that as yes you lied, that was not so hard was it?

By the way this is who yoo sold your content to, just seacrh Yurizan Beltran.

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Seems like both sides are going in circles and she is sitting in the middle of that circle and laughing her ass off.
There is no circle, she is happy and all is good, I just have people throwing out lies and I have to prove them false.
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Well, it's like this. And, I will type so hopefully you can understand it. Have you ever tried to argue with a 4 year old? It's just not gonna work, there's only so much they can understand. When you make a post like you did that was so full of denial and stupidity, sometimes the only thing you can do is post on their level so that they will better understand. I don't deal with stupidity well and when a mass off stupidity gets thrown in my face I can't take it seriously. And, you, I can not take seriously.

I mean you just got proven wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt and the best you can come up with is that we made her say it? Seriously, if the roles were reversed would you not think the person saying that was a complete retard with an IQ of maybe 89 or 91. I mean not clinically retarded but not the sharpest tool in the shed either.
You packaged that nicely, my compliments. If your only responds is to call someone names then I wonder who is the 4 year old in this convo. I pointed out that "she seems" uncomfortable talking about it. Simple!

You forget to address the fact that no matter how you turn it, it is still fucked up to mess with another webmasters work. You and I both know how much work goes into a site, especially if you have to shoot, edit, market etc etc.. And then to go and stab is low.. so call me an idiot all you want. You will never see me do anything like this, and as far as your sarcastic reply goes, I wrote the book that book.

Good luck, I have no stakes in this like I said before. I just believe in honest business not in backstabbing.
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There is no circle, she is happy and all is good, I just have people throwing out lies and I have to prove them false.
Well glad she is happy for now, till the next company comes along and offers her a better deal then we will see more drama about her.
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Well glad she is happy for now, till the next company comes along and offers her a better deal then we will see more drama about her.
True models come and go happens to us all the time.
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True models come and go happens to us all the time.
Yeah and models seem to cause the issues between webmasters all the time, she should have been upfront with her first webmaster and if you guys knew she had a webmaster already which it seems you did then you should of talked to him and worked something out because no model is worth all this drama is what I think.
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You packaged that nicely, my compliments. If your only responds is to call someone names then I wonder who is the 4 year old in this convo. I pointed out that "she seems" uncomfortable talking about it. Simple!

You forget to address the fact that no matter how you turn it, it is still fucked up to mess with another webmasters work. You and I both know how much work goes into a site, especially if you have to shoot, edit, market etc etc.. And then to go and stab is low.. so call me an idiot all you want. You will never see me do anything like this, and as far as your sarcastic reply goes, I wrote the book that book.

Good luck, I have no stakes in this like I said before. I just believe in honest business not in backstabbing.

Yes, a lot of work goes in to it. Models sometimes come and go. There's nothing you can do about that. But, when you have people actively deceiving webmasters and when they called out for it and proven that they lied and or mislead those hardworking webmasters and some people, you for example, still back them, wow! I just don't know where to begin with that?

You say you believe in honest business and yet you are defending these people? They have contradicted themselves, they have now been shown to use misleading tactics and we're the bad guys for taking on a model who got tired of the bullshit or just wanted a change or whatever the reason? We're the bad guys?

Now the conspiracy is so big we're putting words in the mouth of models? You must not have any respect or models or think we have like some covert CIA tactics of brain washing and mind control to make her say all those things. In any case it is just staggering to me that anyone would still try to defend what they did? Because if they did that, what else did they do? How else was she mistreated?

On a side note. I am gonna stay out of this because really it's not my place. I shouldn't have jumped in in the first place. It was just knee jerk reaction to my company being attacked. I have known these people for years. I have seen them turn shit down because it sounded just a tad too shady. I know these people and know that when it comes to honesty and decency, you will not find better people than Kevin and Mailman. Me? You could do better. But, Mailman and Kevin. They are the kinda good people you just don't think exist any more.
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that is what you think my friend, I will not stoop to your idiot behavior, I will show you on monday more, I am too busy shooting for another client today and do not have time or effort to answer scumbags and idiot computer nerds that sit behind the computer and drive traffic all day, so read the headline of this this website, and do it...
Whoah whoah whoah..

Did you just call all affiliates scumbags and losers?

Who the fuck is this?
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Whoah whoah whoah..

Did you just call all affiliates scumbags and losers?

Who the fuck is this?
Glad someone else see this guy for who he is, Hes also bad mouthed the models also and called them trash in another thread.

Its only a matter of time before people like this are put our of business!
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Yes, a lot of work goes in to it. Models sometimes come and go. There's nothing you can do about that. But, when you have people actively deceiving webmasters and when they called out for it and proven that they lied and or mislead those hardworking webmasters and some people, you for example, still back them, wow! I just don't know where to begin with that?

You say you believe in honest business and yet you are defending these people? They have contradicted themselves, they have now been shown to use misleading tactics and we're the bad guys for taking on a model who got tired of the bullshit or just wanted a change or whatever the reason? We're the bad guys?

Now the conspiracy is so big we're putting words in the mouth of models? You must not have any respect or models or think we have like some covert CIA tactics of brain washing and mind control to make her say all those things. In any case it is just staggering to me that anyone would still try to defend what they did? Because if they did that, what else did they do? How else was she mistreated?

On a side note. I am gonna stay out of this because really it's not my place. I shouldn't have jumped in in the first place. It was just knee jerk reaction to my company being attacked. I have known these people for years. I have seen them turn shit down because it sounded just a tad too shady. I know these people and know that when it comes to honesty and decency, you will not find better people than Kevin and Mailman. Me? You could do better. But, Mailman and Kevin. They are the kinda good people you just don't think exist any more.

Can something be cleared up at least for me, was she not with that first webmaster and getting paid?? I would think so since he has content of her and has a site. Did you guys not offer her a site knowing she had a site just for more money I am guessing??

I guess Im just confused but it seems the first webmaster has every right to be upset at her and you guys, no one went to him till after the fact it seems from what I have read.

Name calling is childish and you both keep doing it. Also having the model do that video makes her looks stupid because she is acting like she has no clue on whats going on, when out of all three of you she is the one in control and playing you against each other it seems.

I think everyone has a right to what they think, but pushing this as far as it has gone now seems like more work then its worth. Like said models come and go, webmasters last longer.
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No the idiots and scumbags are MP, they are real bottom feeders and none of this really bothers me, cause I know the truth, keep working with her and making her site successful, Have a good day you all,. am on location and will let you all fight it out. Truth Prevails all the time, my contract is still in force and money is still flowing, thank you to my 1242 affiliates and all the people that have stood by me.....NO time for this. it is just crapola
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Can something be cleared up at least for me, was she not with that first webmaster and getting paid?? I would think so since he has content of her and has a site. Did you guys not offer her a site knowing she had a site just for more money I am guessing??

I guess Im just confused but it seems the first webmaster has every right to be upset at her and you guys, no one went to him till after the fact it seems from what I have read.

Name calling is childish and you both keep doing it. Also having the model do that video makes her looks stupid because she is acting like she has no clue on whats going on, when out of all three of you she is the one in control and playing you against each other it seems.

I think everyone has a right to what they think, but pushing this as far as it has gone now seems like more work then its worth. Like said models come and go, webmasters last longer.
Maybe you missed the part apart me saying I am gonna stay out of this? However, since you quoted me directly. Yes a webmaster can be mad about anything he wants. However, when they lie and mislead people to save face, that's when there's a problem.

Sure, name calling can be childish but sometimes it really, really fits the person it's intended for. And of course, sometimes it's just plain fun! I also like long walks on the beach at night and snuggling after sex.
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Well AbulletAway guess I should of not quoted just you, was for anyone in this mess to answer. I agree with you webmaster or anyone can be mad, thats what makes the world go around, but seems like the only person who lied and mislead anyone is the model.

I just think MP should read between the lines and when it happens to them they might think twice on anything she has said to them about the first webmaster because I am sure she will do it to them too.

I guess one thing I learned in this business that models LOVE when webmasters fight over them and will say and do anything to keep the attention.
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Ok her body language just sucks ass and makes me not believe a fucking word she is trying to say. Still comes off like a cat who ate the canary and if others do not see this I am amazed.

Personally I am still at the point where I do not care who runs the official site as I still think she is playing people. She, not the three webmasters, not medium pimping, not anyone else but her. Posting videos will not do shit, specially when a lot of the talking is done by the shooter and she just repeats or agrees. When asked actual questions she has to roll eyes and actually think to find the answers which is almost saying she is searching her head to keep lies straight.

Want to end this crap now. Each of you post your gawd damn contracts with her signatures. That would end this shit in a heart beat and then everyone would know what the fuck is really up.
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I am finished with her but I still have two more years of content to put up on her so I willl enjoy the money all by myself and work on www.ohmaimai.com and when i am finished with her you can pick up the crumbs.... Have fun and good luck
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I think we already know the truth about you guys and what you think.

Funny how when this is out you guys dont have TIME for this and just walk away.

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Ok her body language just sucks ass and makes me not believe a fucking word she is trying to say. Still comes off like a cat who ate the canary and if others do not see this I am amazed.

Personally I am still at the point where I do not care who runs the official site as I still think she is playing people. She, not the three webmasters, not medium pimping, not anyone else but her. Posting videos will not do shit, specially when a lot of the talking is done by the shooter and she just repeats or agrees. When asked actual questions she has to roll eyes and actually think to find the answers which is almost saying she is searching her head to keep lies straight.

Want to end this crap now. Each of you post your gawd damn contracts with her signatures. That would end this shit in a heart beat and then everyone would know what the fuck is really up.
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