Alexa Graph On CCBill is worrying.... - GoFuckYourself.com

officegirl2006 · 06-16-2008, 08:10 AM

guys

i know alexa isnt always to be trusted with reliability and truthful representation of a sites traffic but

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...ils/ccbill.com

gives me many causes for concern. ccbill dont seem to respond to this....
but why did it take such a dip mid may????

Cyndalie · 06-16-2008, 08:14 AM

Why would you care what their .com is doing? Are you wondering if it is indicative of traffic to their join forms or something? This alexa graphic doesn't take into account what is going through secure and sub domains (https - join forms) (bill.ccbill) (affiliateadmin.ccbill.com) so I dont understand why traffic to their commercial front end site would be of concern to you?

nosey · 06-16-2008, 08:18 AM

notoldschool · 06-16-2008, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyndalie

Why would you care what their .com is doing? Are you wondering if it is indicative of traffic to their join forms or something? This alexa graphic doesn't take into account what is going through secure and sub domains (https - join forms) (bill.ccbill) (affiliateadmin.ccbill.com) so I dont understand why traffic to their commercial front end site would be of concern to you?

I wouldnt be so sure about that.

12clicks · 06-16-2008, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by officegirl2006

guys

i know alexa isnt always to be trusted with reliability and truthful representation of a sites traffic but

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...ils/ccbill.com

gives me many causes for concern. ccbill dont seem to respond to this....
but why did it take such a dip mid may????

they don't respond to irrelevant events.

Holly · 06-16-2008, 08:23 AM

I've never understood why people get so bent over Alexa.

It's mainly webmasters and Japanese people.

officegirl2006 · 06-16-2008, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyndalie

Why would you care what their .com is doing? Are you wondering if it is indicative of traffic to their join forms or something? This alexa graphic doesn't take into account what is going through secure and sub domains (https - join forms) (bill.ccbill) (affiliateadmin.ccbill.com) so I dont understand why traffic to their commercial front end site would be of concern to you?

yes it does, the ccbill.com encompasses all sub domains, so it is relevant, what, you think like maybe 1/3 of their usual hits just got fucked off with the site mid may?

or maybe its ddos issues they have been having...

officegirl2006 · 06-16-2008, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly

I've never understood why people get so bent over Alexa.

It's mainly webmasters and Japanese people.

i am not hell bent over alexa, i know its limitations, it is indicative approximately though, so yeah its relevant to me...

datatank · 06-16-2008, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyndalie

Why would you care what their .com is doing? Are you wondering if it is indicative of traffic to their join forms or something? This alexa graphic doesn't take into account what is going through secure and sub domains (https - join forms) (bill.ccbill) (affiliateadmin.ccbill.com) so I dont understand why traffic to their commercial front end site would be of concern to you?

Where people go on Ccbill.com:
refer69.33c1331cbi90ll.com - 83373%
bill15.ccbil131911l47.com - 967%
s80uppo21rt.ccb19ill.com - 3%
affiliatea74d18min.c846913cb62ill.com - 3%
we91badmin66.ccb62ill36.75463444c5648o4463m - 3%
cc40bill.com - 3%
a12sh1.ccbill.23co77m - 2%
about.ccbi19ll.33com - 117%
bus56i45ne13sscenter16.48ccbi0ll.91com - 1%
ph2381x2.0ccbi4ll.5565776965com - 1347%

Karupted Charles · 06-16-2008, 08:45 AM

CCBill switched much of the images and pages it hosts to its CDN for faster response in local regions. I would wager a bet as it was around that time that the Cname for the CDN they use is not being tracked by alexa hence the drop.

webmasterchecks · 06-16-2008, 09:04 AM

alexa changed the way they measured their stats around that time, they dont rely exclusively on the toolbar any longer, a lot of sites were affected

Alexa Changes Rankings, Goes Beyond Dreaded Toolbar
April 17, 2008 ? 12:07 AM PDT ? by Stan Schroeder ?
The folks at Alexa have announced that their ever so popular (but, many might argue, often inaccurate) ranking system for web sites has been altered. The official word on the changes is slightly vague: Alexa claims ?better rankings,? and ?improved methodology,? but doesn?t go into detail.

One change, however, is definitely a big one: Alexa is now using several sources for its rankings. So far, Alexa has measured rankings of web sites according to the users of their Alexa Toolbarhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toolbar , and this was the main source of users? and experts? criticism. For one, the Toolbar is not available for all platforms (you can?t get it for a Mac, and that?s why Mac-oriented sites have always ranked poorly on Alexa). Secondly, the Toolbar was reportedly mostly used by the tech-savvy demographic which are interested in rankings, and therefore various technology and SEO sites were perhaps unfairly well ranked

http://mashable.com/2008/04/17/alexa...eaded-toolbar/

tranza · 06-16-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by nosey

hahahahaha nice pic!

Taass · 06-16-2008, 10:11 AM

This actually concerns me more..

Site Stats for ccbilleu.com:
Speed: Slow (69% of sites are faster), Avg Load Time: 2.5 Seconds

freek01 · 06-16-2008, 10:12 AM

Maybe it is because of overall sales ?
My sales went down with 40% in the last 5 months and I did not change a fucking thing all is normal except for my sales. And I am not the only one having this problem.
So if a lot of people have less sales maybe that's why visitors don't go to ccbill dot com domain where they can cancel their accounts. Simple because less people have to cancel.

What I would like to know is if ccbill experiences a large drop in sales looking at ALL their webmasters subscriptions.
That would be usefull information.
But I know whishfull thinking .......

KillerK · 06-16-2008, 10:13 AM

maybe someone like lightspeed got smart and switched to a merchant account?

WiredGuy · 06-16-2008, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karupted Charles

CCBill switched much of the images and pages it hosts to its CDN for faster response in local regions. I would wager a bet as it was around that time that the Cname for the CDN they use is not being tracked by alexa hence the drop.

I was going to say the exact same thing, I'm willing to bet their CDN is messing up Alexa's results as their traffic is being relayed across different servers across the globe and Alexa isnt recognizing that.
WG

snaker · 06-16-2008, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly

I've never understood why people get so bent over Alexa.

It's mainly webmasters and Japanese people.

agreed, but I still always check the thing!

HorseShit · 06-16-2008, 10:46 AM

who gives a shit who gives a fuck

officegirl2006 · 06-16-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavis

who gives a shit who gives a fuck

i fuckin do you asshole

Brujah · 06-16-2008, 02:34 PM

Notice the same people always want to cover up something relevant, with inaccurate or lame excuses and uninformed opinions. Anyone using ccbill on either side of the fence has a valid interest in whether it's something to concern them or not.

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12clicks · 06-16-2008, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK

maybe someone like lightspeed got smart and switched to a merchant account?

join date, last month

CCBill Paul · 06-16-2008, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webmasterchecks

alexa changed the way they measured their stats around that time, they dont rely exclusively on the toolbar any longer, a lot of sites were affected

Alexa Changes Rankings, Goes Beyond Dreaded Toolbar
April 17, 2008 ? 12:07 AM PDT ? by Stan Schroeder ?
The folks at Alexa have announced that their ever so popular (but, many might argue, often inaccurate) ranking system for web sites has been altered. The official word on the changes is slightly vague: Alexa claims ?better rankings,? and ?improved methodology,? but doesn?t go into detail.

One change, however, is definitely a big one: Alexa is now using several sources for its rankings. So far, Alexa has measured rankings of web sites according to the users of their Alexa Toolbarhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toolbar , and this was the main source of users? and experts? criticism. For one, the Toolbar is not available for all platforms (you can?t get it for a Mac, and that?s why Mac-oriented sites have always ranked poorly on Alexa). Secondly, the Toolbar was reportedly mostly used by the tech-savvy demographic which are interested in rankings, and therefore various technology and SEO sites were perhaps unfairly well ranked

http://mashable.com/2008/04/17/alexa...eaded-toolbar/

this most likely had a lot to do with the Alexa stats. we have not noticed such a trend on our end at all. if anyone has any CCBill clicks or form hit questions they would like to discuss I would be happy to.

paulk at ccbill.com

Brujah · 06-16-2008, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCBill Paul

this most likely had a lot to do with the Alexa stats. we have not noticed such a trend on our end at all. if anyone has any CCBill clicks or form hit questions they would like to discuss I would be happy to.

paulk at ccbill.com

Further validation that at least something like this could be responsible, is to compare the results of compete.com and quantcast.com which neither sites indicate a drop corresponding to the same period. While none of them are very accurate, they might help with a correlation of metrics.

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officegirl2006 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: europe Posts: 159	Alexa Graph On CCBill is worrying.... guys i know alexa isnt always to be trusted with reliability and truthful representation of a sites traffic but http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...ils/ccbill.com gives me many causes for concern. ccbill dont seem to respond to this.... but why did it take such a dip mid may???? __________________

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freek01 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87	Maybe it is because of overall sales ? My sales went down with 40% in the last 5 months and I did not change a fucking thing all is normal except for my sales. And I am not the only one having this problem. So if a lot of people have less sales maybe that's why visitors don't go to ccbill dot com domain where they can cancel their accounts. Simple because less people have to cancel. What I would like to know is if ccbill experiences a large drop in sales looking at ALL their webmasters subscriptions. That would be usefull information. But I know whishfull thinking .......

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