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VS brad · 06-19-2008, 03:26 PM

Over the past 8 days many of you were witness to a long and sometimes heated thread regarding our decision to suspend an affiliate account for lack of activity. Many of you disagreed with our policy and made your opinions quite clear. While we will continue to hope that sending an affiliate thousands of dollars a month warrants continued promotion we have decided to amend our Terms & Conditions in favor of a LIFETIME PAYOUT.

The affiliate in question will receive any and all monies that were withheld for the 7 months his account was in suspension. In addition, he will continue to receive his commissions on a monthly basis as long as the customer he referred continues to make purchases; regardless of whether he sends another click.

We have posted an amendment to our Terms & Conditions clearly stating that we will not suspend an account for lack of promotional activity.

http://www.videosecrets.com/terms.php (Section 6.4)

It has been said that decisions are always correct when you make them, but they can stop being correct soon thereafter. In this case it?s clear that what is in the best interest of Video Secrets, our thousands of performers and our affiliates is a policy which goes out of its way to pay affiliates for life.

We hope that those of you who made some very out of line personal attacks in the other threads will think twice before doing that again. There are always two sides to every controversy and while the wheels of progress sometimes move slowly we feel they have stopped on a positive outcome for all.

Back to Business.

Brad Estes
Manager of Operations
Video Secretes

TurboAngel · 06-19-2008, 03:27 PM

Sig spot. LOL

munki · 06-19-2008, 03:27 PM

Sigitus spoticus...

And good move guys...

TurboAngel · 06-19-2008, 03:28 PM

Sig spot. LOL

D_Unit · 06-19-2008, 03:29 PM

Nice to hear that

jact · 06-19-2008, 03:29 PM

I'll read after reserving my sig spot.

Klen · 06-19-2008, 03:29 PM

Am afraid you are too late....

u-Bob · 06-19-2008, 03:29 PM

see sig.

Sands · 06-19-2008, 03:29 PM

It's very good of you to continue paying Chrome, and to amend your TOS, but I'm still wary of your company since this "positive outcome" took you so long to produce.

st0ned · 06-19-2008, 03:30 PM

Wow, sig spot! That is awesome news for the affiliate that they had canceled.

Furious_Male · 06-19-2008, 03:30 PM

Interesting development. I am glad the drama that is spreading across the boards was worked out.

Chauncy · 06-19-2008, 03:30 PM

way to step up and do the right thing A+ move

Tjeezers · 06-19-2008, 03:30 PM

Good, i was waiting on this news.

jact · 06-19-2008, 03:31 PM

Positive outcome, good to see.

Scroto · 06-19-2008, 03:31 PM

crap, now i wish i had read those threads fully

IllTestYourGirls · 06-19-2008, 03:32 PM

way to save face

jact · 06-19-2008, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sands

It's very good of you to continue paying Chrome, and to amend your TOS, but I'm still wary of your company since this "positive outcome" took you so long to produce.

When an organization is as large as VideoSecrets with as many people in management as well as having vested interest, it will definitely make it move slower then a mom and pop organization. There are a lot more opinions to hear, a lot more discussion to have. I am not defending the time it took them to come to the conclusion, simply explaining it. I know Homegrown has taken much longer to move on some issues due to the same type of structure, so I can relate to their pain there. The important thing at the end of the day is that they did do the right thing, and it wasn't years later.

kenny · 06-19-2008, 03:34 PM

Good job.

Revshare for life should be for life.

BVF · 06-19-2008, 03:35 PM

Thank Goodness the little man prevailed for once.....

Now it's time to unban Chrome....

RayBonga · 06-19-2008, 03:35 PM

Better late then never

macromind · 06-19-2008, 03:36 PM

sig spot! cheers for that decision but I certainly hope the asshole got fired over that... VS must have lost lots of $ based on the Alexa drop!

Bugbee · 06-19-2008, 03:36 PM

congrats to the winners..everyone

kenny · 06-19-2008, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jact

When an organization is as large as VideoSecrets with as many people in management as well as having vested interest, it will definitely make it move slower then a mom and pop organization. There are a lot more opinions to hear, a lot more discussion to have. I am not defending the time it took them to come to the conclusion, simply explaining it. I know Homegrown has taken much longer to move on some issues due to the same type of structure, so I can relate to their pain there. The important thing at the end of the day is that they did do the right thing, and it wasn't years later.

As long as the end result is satisfactory.

They would of saved face with a quicker decison though.

SexualDragon · 06-19-2008, 03:36 PM

This is good news

halfpint · 06-19-2008, 03:37 PM

Nice to hear you and the affliate have sorted it out

DateDoc · 06-19-2008, 03:37 PM

That was the right thing to do.

WiredGuy · 06-19-2008, 03:38 PM

Glad to see a thread like this.
WG

RayBonga · 06-19-2008, 03:38 PM

might have had somethign to do with this outcome

jakethedog · 06-19-2008, 03:39 PM

sitting waiting for the 5 pager

Miss Munki · 06-19-2008, 03:39 PM

Pokey the Turtle · 06-19-2008, 03:39 PM

there you go chrome

MaDalton · 06-19-2008, 03:40 PM

good to see

Tjeezers · 06-19-2008, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayBonga

might have had somethign to do with this outcome

Of course

Facts are always a eye opener

Bye Bye GFY it was a nice week

Pokey the Turtle · 06-19-2008, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayBonga

might have had somethign to do with this outcome

oh my ...lol

Matiz · 06-19-2008, 03:44 PM

good move

JFK · 06-19-2008, 03:44 PM

Glad to see the situation being resolved

Camco · 06-19-2008, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayBonga

might have had somethign to do with this outcome

I'd say this had alot to do with it,

Sands · 06-19-2008, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jact

When an organization is as large as VideoSecrets with as many people in management as well as having vested interest, it will definitely make it move slower then a mom and pop organization. There are a lot more opinions to hear, a lot more discussion to have. I am not defending the time it took them to come to the conclusion, simply explaining it. I know Homegrown has taken much longer to move on some issues due to the same type of structure, so I can relate to their pain there. The important thing at the end of the day is that they did do the right thing, and it wasn't years later.

I understand your point, but I'm skeptical. I'm very, very skeptical. I really don't want to continue jabbing VS since they did the right thing, but I'm curious about how long it took them to create that official response to this thread where they tried to justify their tactics by placing the blame on the affiliate in question, by characterizing him as a freeloader who's undeserving of continued revshare from a "single click", as a belligerent man who berated VS employees after he was told he wouldn't receive the money he's owed.

Yes, what a positive outcome indeed for VS... being patted on the back for doing what they should have done in the first place. Excuse me while I break out the champagne and hookers.

Quite frankly, the real positive outcome from this was a group of united affiliates pushing for a compatriot. Everyone talks about how organizing individuals in this industry is like herding cats. Looks like a few cats were herded.

Good move on VS's part, better late than never, rah rah rah, enjoy the kudos fellas.

DigitalPimp · 06-19-2008, 03:48 PM

it is unfortunate an affiliate had to make a post on here in order to get it resolved but all's well that ends well I guess.

payd2purv · 06-19-2008, 03:48 PM

That's awesome!

at that traffic chart.

ladida · 06-19-2008, 03:50 PM

Finally. I guess some pretty big players did indeed pull their links.

Now just for chrome to be unbanned and witness that he indeed did get the last x months check, since checks tend to be lost in mail.

macromind · 06-19-2008, 03:50 PM

We should start the Webmaster Syndicate and get all the scammers, shavers and the likes out there!

Zuzana Designs · 06-19-2008, 03:53 PM

I'm very glad you guys did the right thing in the end .. I had a feeling you would .. Just wish it didn't have to go so far .. Good Job VS

_Richard_ · 06-19-2008, 03:53 PM

thank god this is finished

fsudirectory · 06-19-2008, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayBonga

LOL Thats Awesome

DigitalPimp · 06-19-2008, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macromind

We should start the Webmaster Syndicate and get all the scammers, shavers and the likes out there!

Ha, not only get them out there but make them feel the consequences of their actions. I can see a lot of interest amoung affiliates for a group where all members agree to pull links when any one of the other members is able to prove to the group that they were wronged in some way. If anyone knows of such a group or wants to start one, show me where to signup!

uno · 06-19-2008, 03:59 PM

This was a no brainer from the beginning. Its almost more unbelievable how long it took them to come to this resolution and considering Brad's earlier responses.

I'm glad they did the right thing, but man...

ronaldo · 06-19-2008, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jact

When an organization is as large as VideoSecrets with as many people in management as well as having vested interest, it will definitely make it move slower then a mom and pop organization.

This much is definitely true, but I'm sorry, after the initial responses in the first thread this comes off as nothing more than self preservation.

IntenseJerry · 06-19-2008, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK

Glad to see the situation being resolved

JFK, I totally agree.

Looking forward to seeing Tim and Eddie in Vegas, you guys rock! J

kenny · 06-19-2008, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macromind

We should start the Webmaster Syndicate and get all the scammers, shavers and the likes out there!

There has always been a webmasters sydicate.

06-19-2008, 03:26 PM	#1
VS brad Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 95	Video Secrets / Policy Change & Lifetime Payouts Over the past 8 days many of you were witness to a long and sometimes heated thread regarding our decision to suspend an affiliate account for lack of activity. Many of you disagreed with our policy and made your opinions quite clear. While we will continue to hope that sending an affiliate thousands of dollars a month warrants continued promotion we have decided to amend our Terms & Conditions in favor of a LIFETIME PAYOUT. The affiliate in question will receive any and all monies that were withheld for the 7 months his account was in suspension. In addition, he will continue to receive his commissions on a monthly basis as long as the customer he referred continues to make purchases; regardless of whether he sends another click. We have posted an amendment to our Terms & Conditions clearly stating that we will not suspend an account for lack of promotional activity. http://www.videosecrets.com/terms.php (Section 6.4) It has been said that decisions are always correct when you make them, but they can stop being correct soon thereafter. In this case it?s clear that what is in the best interest of Video Secrets, our thousands of performers and our affiliates is a policy which goes out of its way to pay affiliates for life. We hope that those of you who made some very out of line personal attacks in the other threads will think twice before doing that again. There are always two sides to every controversy and while the wheels of progress sometimes move slowly we feel they have stopped on a positive outcome for all. Back to Business. Brad Estes Manager of Operations Video Secretes

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