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Old 06-21-2008, 05:18 PM   #101
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Bands like The Police, The Animals and The Beatles had already disbanded by this time in their career. And look at them, they're all legendary. How many albums does it qualify for a band to made a mark? Jimi Hendrix only recorded three studio albums. He's forever legendary. Harper Lee only wrote one book. And she's forever legendary for it too.
You're just proving my point. For one, I know of nothing Coldplay has come out with so far that comes close to ranking them with the bands you mentioned.

- The beatles were together longer than 8 years or even 10 yeas. They spent time playing in Liverpool clubs as unknowns before their recording years. And how many legendary albums. I can't name even one album of "coldplay's"... why? Not because I'm not tuned into music I can tell you that. No one listens to as much rock radio as I do. No, it's because they aren't fit to even be meantioned in the same breath as the Beatles, that's why.

- The Police? I'm sorry but the ONLY thing coldplay has on the police IS longevity.

- The animals? See above.

- Their music is no Hendrix either. Again, if not for his untimely death one wonders just how many years and how many other great works of art Jimmi would have come up with.


I don't know why you guys even argue this crap with me. Coldplay? Please. They have more work to do, as in lots, if they truly want to be ranked and remembered among the greats. They need to come out with some less gay shit. :D
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If Nirvana didn't exist to break Seattle onto the national stage, we may never have heard about the Smashing Pumpkins or Pearl Jam and their lead singers.
It's hard for me to have perspective on the national level when talking about grunge because it was a local scene to me and I don't know who made the biggest noise outside of Seattle first but I'm pretty sure bands like Pearl Jam and Soundgarden would have become known even if Nirvana had never existed.

Green River is the band that deserves a lot of the credit for pioneering the Seattle scene, more than Mudhoney now that I think about it. When they broke up Stone and Jeff formed Mother Love Bone/Pearl Jam and Mark went on to form Mudhoney. Wonder what might have been if they had stayed together?
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I would say they were way under-rated..I still listen to them because they werent played to death

Most bands today suck.. most are hype and very little talent.
Agree 100%, all points.
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It's hard for me to have perspective on the national level when talking about grunge because it was a local scene to me and I don't know who made the biggest noise outside of Seattle first but I'm pretty sure bands like Pearl Jam and Soundgarden would have become known even if Nirvana had never existed.
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This is a good definition but it also requires that people know rock history. People who think Oasis are somehow comparable to the Beatles are clearly unaware of what the Beatles did during the 50's and 60's and what the music scene was like at that time. This is why there is so much confusion in this thread. The Beatles were before my time, but I've read enough about them and watched enough documentaries to understand their impact. I also happen to really enjoy their music but that is just personal taste. The cultural influence of the Beatles is virtually undeniable, but somebody who is unfamiliar with history won't understand this.
Exactly.
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Nobody I know even heard of them before 2 years ago. They are NEW on the scene, still.
Fucking moron. Please stfu about thing you dont have a clue about. You know, there's a world outside Canada and its pretty fucking big. You sound like a dumb American right now.

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There is this Dutch tv channel for the kids, they play all these teenybopper music. They have all stuff where you can rate songs through text messages. You can rate 1 to 10 and when you look at those ratings they either rate it 1 or 10. The kid likes the song or hates the song, theres nothing inbetween. A kid can not look further than i like them or not. They cant think like well i dont like them but its not a bad song really, just not for me. Anyway, thats how kids are...and most of the idiots on gfy.
Amen brother, glad there's still some people around that get it
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I'm amazed at some of the responses in this thread... The Stones? Kiss? Rush? Zeppelin?

WTF... all awesome classic bands.

For me off the top of my head:

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Fucking moron. Please stfu about thing you dont have a clue about. You know, there's a world outside Canada and its pretty fucking big. You sound like a dumb American right now.
Franck listens to coldplay!

Now I know you're gay.
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Franck listens to coldplay!

Now I know you're gay.
I dont listen to them you fucking moron. Funny how you completely ignore the subject because you know how stupid you sound.
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I dont listen to them you fucking moron. Funny how you completely ignore the subject because you know how stupid you sound.
Why do you sound like an angry 14 yr old in most of your posts franck? :D
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Quite frankly as I see it, the only thing determining whether a band is overrated or not in this thread is simply the fact that the person naming them simply doesn't like them. You for instance obviously don't like the Doors' music, thus to you they are "overrated".
Very true, and that is a big problem with this thread, people are missing the point and listing bands they plain don't like or get.
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Keep ignoring the subject you simpleton.
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i've already stated my position on "the subject".

Why would I want to address your non-points when you have not a shred of a clue as to how to engage in a civil discussion?

Keep trying, you'll get it right eventually. :D
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You're just proving my point. For one, I know of nothing Coldplay has come out with so far that comes close to ranking them with the bands you mentioned.

- The beatles were together longer than 8 years or even 10 yeas. They spent time playing in Liverpool clubs as unknowns before their recording years. And how many legendary albums. I can't name even one album of "coldplay's"... why? Not because I'm not tuned into music I can tell you that. No one listens to as much rock radio as I do. No, it's because they aren't fit to even be meantioned in the same breath as the Beatles, that's why.

- The Police? I'm sorry but the ONLY thing coldplay has on the police IS longevity.

- The animals? See above.

- Their music is no Hendrix either. Again, if not for his untimely death one wonders just how many years and how many other great works of art Jimmi would have come up with.


I don't know why you guys even argue this crap with me. Coldplay? Please. They have more work to do, as in lots, if they truly want to be ranked and remembered among the greats. They need to come out with some less gay shit. :D

Well you totally misunderstood me. I was actually agreeing with you for the most part. I know everything there is to know about The Beatles, thank you very much. Coldplay as I said has been around since 1997. So if you add in those years before they began recording, it is pretty close to how long The Beatles were together as a band. So my analogy was correct.

I was also not comparing Coldplay to the likes of The Police or The Beatles. I was just trying to make a point that do they really need to go on and make more albums to not gain respect? As I said earlier, those songs like "The Scientist," "Clocks" and "Fix You" are some of the best pop/rock songs I have heard this entire decade quality wise. Chris Martin is an incredibly gifted pianist and songwriter. Their music is not disposable like 90% of the rest of pop music you hear. It's quite refreshing to hear such a talented band.

It's true, that they haven't made a lot of albums. And to be honest, I wasn't a huge fan of their 2005 album X&Y. But it did contain the classic "Fix You." Didn't care much for "Speed of Sound" but "Talk" was okay. We'll see how their brand new album is. So far I like the first single, and the second single I'm not sure yet.

So.. Please don't compare me to the rest of the morons in this thread... we were actually on the same thinking level! You just misunderstood what I said.

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I was just trying to make a point that do they really need to go on and make more albums to not gain respect?
I don't know, have what they've already done earned them any? I can think of only one of thier songs I've heard that I can safely say I like. As in like, not am freaked out over it, it's that good or anything. If they did basically nothing in their first 3 or 5 years then do those years count? I don't know. Maybe we should ask Franck.

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As I said earlier, those songs like "The Scientist," "Clocks" and "Fix You" are some of the best pop/rock songs I have heard this entire decade quality wise.
As I said, I listen to a lot of radio, not just classic rock stations but others that play newer stuff, and yet I can't recognize any of those songs from their titles. Now, either I'm a "moron" as Franck says OR.. or those songs just never caught my attention enough for me to want to hear them again. However, I will look up those songs and give them another listen.

The one song I've heard of theirs that I remember and actually like is called "Let's talk" (I think)

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Chris Martin is an incredibly gifted pianist and songwriter. Their music is not disposable like 90% of the rest of pop music you hear. It's quite refreshing to hear such a talented band.
Well, to be clear here I wasn't one of the ones saying they are overrated.

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It's true, that they haven't made a lot of albums. And to be honest, I wasn't a huge fan of their 2005 album X&Y. But it did contain the classic "Fix You." Didn't care much for "Speed of Sound" but "Talk" was okay. We'll see how their brand new album is. So far I like the first single, and the second single I'm not sure yet.
There you go agreeing with me again. "We'll see how their brand new album is"... that's all I'm saying, they have more to do yet to make the kind of lasting impact that the classic greats you mentioned have made. That's all.

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So.. Please don't compare me to the rest of the morons in this thread... we were actually on the same thinking level! You just misunderstood what I said.
The comment at the tail end of my post you quoted was directed mainly to the general masses, not at you in particular, but my apologies for the confusion.

Fact is the first time I ever heard of them or a song by them was just a little under two years ago. I'm not at all surprised they've been around longer than that, because it does usually take a few years for UK music to make it's way over here. The first time I ever heard them mentioned anywhere was the movie "the 40 year old virgin" during the "You know how I know you're gay" scene. lol

And I'm 45, it takes a lot for a new band to impress me to the point of me actually wanting their music in my playlist. Too many of them are pure crap these days.
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This is a good definition but it also requires that people know rock history. People who think Oasis are somehow comparable to the Beatles are clearly unaware of what the Beatles did during the 50's and 60's and what the music scene was like at that time. This is why there is so much confusion in this thread. The Beatles were before my time, but I've read enough about them and watched enough documentaries to understand their impact. I also happen to really enjoy their music but that is just personal taste. The cultural influence of the Beatles is virtually undeniable, but somebody who is unfamiliar with history won't understand this.

the thing about the beatles is they were arguably the most 'important' band in modern rock... while black sabbath is arguably the most 'influential' band. the second black sabbath album changed the world for guitar players. jimmy page is accredited with heavy drums and the 'riff', until that point there were no real 'drum heavy' mixes around.

then we have the motorhead and the ramons.... totally changed music.
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1; Nirvana - overrated beyond acceptable limits
2; Stones - why isn't anyone enforcing legal retirement ages for rockers???
3; The Doors - simply not my sound.

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The only band on the first page that is actually over rated is Jane's Addiction, the rest rock. I'm not reading page 2 or 3... this thread is 95% garbage.

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This dogshit thread should have been titled "Some rock bands/people that are/were popular that I don't like are:"

Thats all this pussy ass thread is... none of it makes sense.
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3; The Doors - simply not my sound.

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Grab a bass or a guitar and try to make something remotedly similar to anything those 3 bands have recorded. Maybe and only maybe... you realize they were genius bands. 'The Doors' are fucking amazing playing rock n' roll songs like LA Woman and they have a unique sound. Only The Doors Sound like The Doors and if a band cannot be copied, they're legendary.

Listen to some of the crap that has come out in the last 15 years to see some serious bullshit. I can't believe ppl saying the stones or nirvana or the guns n' roses are overrated haha, I bet you listen to electronica and feel like it's almost art.
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1; Nirvana - overrated beyond acceptable limits
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3; The Doors - simply not my sound.

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Grab a bass or a guitar and try to make something remotedly similar to anything those 3 bands have recorded. Maybe and only maybe... you realize they were genius bands. 'The Doors' are fucking amazing playing rock n' roll songs like LA Woman and they have a unique sound. Only The Doors Sound like The Doors and if a band cannot be copied, they're legendary.

Listen to some of the crap that has come out in the last 15 years to see some serious bullshit. I can't believe ppl saying the stones or nirvana or guns n' roses are overrated haha, I bet you listen to electronica and feel like it's almost art.
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Allright so after 125 posts of ignorance, occassional dementia and desperate effort to figure out what is beeing discussed, I have a hot candidate to announce:






He is:

a) one single person grossing the most revenue per year in the whole music industry
b) was a member of the most famous band of all time
c) untouchable







Noone else than SIR Paul McCartney!




Now don't get me wrong I am sure he is a very talented songwriter but 98 pct. of what I heard since The Beatles disbanded sucked serious balls.

It's like if you would want to take the most mediocre sample group of squares, packed them into the bus for a roadtrip and then wanted to play them something that will keep them comfortable.

A bit of "rockin" but not too much, not too complicated and totally non conflicting lyrics, very melodic, simple to remember - very much easy listening at the end.

Although I kind of liked what he did with Michael Jackson in the times when Jacko was still black and also the song with the monks that are about to be run over by a train in the video.

I would never touch the legacy of the Beatles but Paul McCartney and the wings, that's not my cup of tea, even served by sir Paul personally.

I know he will probably sue me for these statements, he never left money on the table.

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page is accredited with heavy drums and the 'riff', until that point there were no real 'drum heavy' mixes around.
True!

I was looking for the essence that makes Zeppelin sound like Zeppelin for ages and after I read this and played the first four albums again - I heard it there, great observation!
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A different way to ask is "What music don't you like that lots of other people think is legendary/classic"?

I like Zeppelin. I can't stand U2.
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