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TDF · 06-25-2008, 03:12 PM

one fiddy

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-25-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

AlienQ, please post some more man. You always have such good insight in every situation and are such a smart guy.

I mean i just love in the other thread how you talk about the cancers in this business. Very deep words coming from a guy who 2 hours before that gladly admitted he would call a thief a stand up guy in exchange for money.

Everyone loves your posts dude...please tell us some more about how it really is. You seem to know everything :orglaugh

I know more than you, things you could not even begin to understand and thats not saying much I am not a very smart guy. YOU are a cancer on this board make no mistake about it. When the faintest drama comes along we can always count on your words polluting and distorting the truths of whats occuring.

Only reason I included my selv in the VS thread is A: I recalled Chrome from way back in the day and B: I know video Secrets is an honorable company. I can not say the same for AEBN over the years so this is not my fight...

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-25-2008, 03:22 PM

PS: Infact this event does not surprise me comming from AEBN whats so ever so its no big deal. No one makes huge money with AEBN and if they do the guys that use AEBN really did not think about maximsing there income potential.

While Videosecrets has many many many accounts that generate over 100K per year with long time clients, AEBN does not. Why? Because AEBN fucking sucks no matter how ya look at it so I can care less about this topic LOL!

Bye I got work to do.

Dirty F · 06-25-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Only reason I included my selv in the VS thread is A: I recalled Chrome from way back in the day and B: I know video Secrets is an honorable company. I can not say the same for AEBN over the years so this is not my fight...

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Originally Posted by Atticus

Dude, enough. We get it. It's not even the VS thread anymore.

In the locked thread you were the leader of the lynch mob. Even going so far as to make god damn t-shirts and throwing non involved parties under the bus in the process.

It's like a german shepard watch dog that is attacking and the intruder gives the dog a steak. Next thing you know the dog is wagging it's tail and slobbering all over them.

AlienQ, are you posting under the influence of meds? Do you have some kind of mental illess? Is your account shared by multiple people? It has to be one of those 3.

cybermike · 06-25-2008, 03:27 PM

So whats a good vod sponsor?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-25-2008, 03:28 PM

OH noes DirtyF got himself in a frenzy with double quoates! Holy cow!

Dirty F · 06-25-2008, 03:29 PM

So let me sum it up.

You say this:
B: I know video Secrets is an honorable company

Still you decide to totally attack them one day and then suddenly the next day youre calling them stand up people again. There is something seriously fucking wrong with you you fucking psycho idiot. You know that right.

Or maybe you just talk so fucking much bullshit you dont even have a clue anymore what opinion you had about what company 2 days ago. That wouldnt surprise me as youre in every fucking thread acting like you know it all. You dumb fuck.

Plus how you admitted you would call every person a stand up person in exchange for money makes you truly one of the biggest retards on this board. But thats nothing new i guess.

kristin · 06-25-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I've only got 240 members and made only $139 total off them. Not sure what's worse. The non-lifetime revshare or the fact 240 members are making next to nothing.

But how long have you sent them traffic? Those 240 members are an accumulation of all members you have ever sent. They never expire since it's non-recurring so that's the amount of members you have sent them the entire time you have promoted AEBN. It's not just active members in that count.

ayeronnie · 06-25-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Paul

I will keep this short...
Revenue for life is revenue for the lifetime of that customer and should not be dependant on traffic numbers.

Looks like AEBN has their own definition...

Gnus · 06-25-2008, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cybermike

So whats a good vod sponsor?

Yep looking for the same thing. Good VOD or PPV sponsor.

Gary

digifan · 06-25-2008, 03:54 PM

Damn it is page 4... good going ;)

V_RocKs · 06-25-2008, 03:56 PM

I can't believe no one posted a link to the VS thread yet...

Don't make me look... I know one of you still has it in a tab.

baddog · 06-25-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

I can't believe no one posted a link to the VS thread yet...

Don't make me look... I know one of you still has it in a tab.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=835977

kristin · 06-25-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnus

Yep looking for the same thing. Good VOD or PPV sponsor.

Gary

There are a bunch of them and they each have something unique to offer:

HotMovies.com - reaching 100,000 movies with thousands of studios
AdultRental.com - pays the highest PPS for any VOD company
Yappo.com - Pretty whitelabels and excellent WM support. Examples of WLs: www.camzvod.com / www.onlymoviesvod.com

Dirty F · 06-25-2008, 04:22 PM

Its funny how AlienQ is all over the place with his idiotic i know it all shit but as soon as you confront him with his lunatic opinions that change every day depending on what kinda meds hes on i guess he suddenly stops posting in those threads. Just like in the VS threads and now this one. That guy has serious problems going on.

CDSmith · 06-25-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JayDeeZee

Revshare for life should be revshare for life.

Not much else needs to be said.

But I will add that there are other ways for programs like AEBN to get old affiliates to start promoting them again besides threatening to shitcan their accounts (and basically steal any rebills they have left).

Friendlier ways.

spacedog · 06-25-2008, 05:10 PM

My aebn stats = sent 3596 uniques = 68 members referred, earnings = $57.65 = $1.60 per click..

hope aebn makes a response to this thread

NinjaSteve · 06-25-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Paul

I will keep this short...
Revenue for life is revenue for the lifetime of that customer and should not be dependant on traffic numbers.

Yes, that's exactly what it means. If you have a customer that you sent to site X rebilling or buying time every month for 10 years then you should be getting your cut. You had the choice of sending that customer to site X instead of site Y.

Jim_Gunn · 06-25-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin

There are a bunch of them and they each have something unique to offer:

Yappo.com - Pretty whitelabels and excellent WM support. Examples of WLs: www.camzvod.com / www.onlymoviesvod.com

Kristin:

Can you hit me up about something Yappo related?

ayeronnie · 06-25-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog

My aebn stats = sent 3596 uniques = 68 members referred, earnings = $57.65 = $1.60 per click..

hope aebn makes a response to this thread

Shouldn't that be 1.6 cents a click?

GatorB · 06-25-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ayeronnie

Shouldn't that be 1.6 cents a click?

yep. HUGE difference. Anyways I wouldn't go by per click, I go by per member, but that's just me.

spacedog · 06-25-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ayeronnie

Shouldn't that be 1.6 cents a click?

Yes, it is ...you're correct... Been a looooonnng day

Dirty F · 06-25-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ayeronnie

Shouldn't that be 1.6 cents a click?

This is Spacedog youre talking to

Gnus · 06-25-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog

hope aebn makes a response to this thread

They aren't going to respond to this thread here is the way I took when we wrote them. They told us to call them to discuss it and but when you call them be sure to ask the question what if I remove my links. Our rep is very aware of this thread we personally gave her the link to the thread.

Gary

SBJ · 06-25-2008, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnus

They aren't going to respond to this thread here is the way I took when we wrote them. They told us to call them to discuss it and but when you call them be sure to ask the question what if I remove my links. Our rep is very aware of this thread we personally gave her the link to the thread.

Gary

yup they are taking a different route then vs did thinking if they don't respond it will just die

But they are still cheating the affiliates so..... BUMP

V_RocKs · 06-25-2008, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=835977

That is their lame thread... I wanted the surfer thread that started it all.

baddog · 06-25-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

That is their lame thread... I wanted the surfer thread that started it all.

was deleted (or moved)

ronaldo · 06-25-2008, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

That is their lame thread... I wanted the surfer thread that started it all.

Good luck with that one. I'm sure a LOT of people would like to be referencing it right about now.

d-null · 06-25-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo

Good luck with that one. I'm sure a LOT of people would like to be referencing it right about now.

someone should start an affiliate gripe blog, kind of a storing house for drama to record the history as it progressed and any resolutions, would be a good reference for affiliates in deciding who they want to send traffic to... although I'm thinking forum copyrights on content would make it risky to save thread contents in a separate independent blog though I guess

spacedog · 06-25-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnus

They aren't going to respond to this thread here is the way I took when we wrote them. They told us to call them to discuss it and but when you call them be sure to ask the question what if I remove my links. Our rep is very aware of this thread we personally gave her the link to the thread.

Gary

What happened when you called? What did they say? Is what they told Fris true?

One could still have links up and get screwed over...

Quote:

"Charlotte ‎(11:27 AM):
Due to a recent change in our terms of service, accounts which have not gained any new members in the last 90 days will not be receiving payout checks. It looks like you're getting very close to your payout, but unless you begin promoting us again your account will be going into forfeiture."

So, one could be still sending traffic, but if no NEW MEMBERS joined in the last 90 days then sounds to me they're going to steal your money.

If this is true then perhaps a breach of contract suit will fix them.

SomeCreep · 06-25-2008, 10:33 PM

Wow, I'm glad I don't send any traffic to AEBN or VideoSecrets. And I never will either.

I think this just reflects how bad times are in the industry right now. These big sponsors are implementing some really shady/unethical tactics to try and keep their profits steady.

madfuck · 06-25-2008, 10:41 PM

Wow Thats Funkin Crazy....

xxxdesign-net · 06-25-2008, 10:58 PM

bbbbbump

hjnet · 06-26-2008, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gnus

We gave AEBN a call and they confirmed that if you remove links that the business relationship has been terminated by the affiliate. So basically confirms what Fris is saying.
This is bullshit. Yes we will be pulling links and yes we have members.

Gary

Quoting, if anybody hasn't seen it yet.
I wanted to try a new VOD Sponsor anyway, guess it's time to change links now. Gonna leave a few up to send them their 1 member/90 days.

Gnus · 06-26-2008, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by spacedog

What happened when you called? What did they say? Is what they told Fris true?

One could still have links up and get screwed over...

So, one could be still sending traffic, but if no NEW MEMBERS joined in the last 90 days then sounds to me they're going to steal your money.

If this is true then perhaps a breach of contract suit will fix them.

They didn't say anything about having to have new members. They said if you removed your links that the business relationship has been terminated by the affiliate and the account would be terminated.

Gary

fris · 06-26-2008, 05:51 AM

pretty lame if you ask me

GatorB · 06-26-2008, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Gnus

They didn't say anything about having to have new members. They said if you removed your links that the business relationship has been terminated by the affiliate and the account would be terminated.

Gary

How do they know if you "removed links"? Do you mean stop sending traffic? You could have links up but nobody clicks. Hell they got a whopping 32 clicks from me in the last 4 months. I better still get a check. Sorry but in those 4 months of viturally sending no traffic their 80% ammounts to over $1200 in their pockets. No bad for someone sending no traffic. Who cares if we don't have links if the members we did send are still buying?

darksoul · 06-26-2008, 06:11 AM

Code:

;videos                   IN           CNAME           theater.aebn.net
20L, 760C written
root@zorg> killall -HUP named

fuck you aebn

u-Bob · 06-26-2008, 06:26 AM

<---- has pulled links for shit like that in the past and will do it again.

Gnus · 06-26-2008, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

How do they know if you "removed links"? Do you mean stop sending traffic? You could have links up but nobody clicks. Hell they got a whopping 32 clicks from me in the last 4 months. I better still get a check. Sorry but in those 4 months of viturally sending no traffic their 80% ammounts to over $1200 in their pockets. No bad for someone sending no traffic. Who cares if we don't have links if the members we did send are still buying?

They check the links I guess. What they said was is. If joe blow went through your site to your theater and bought minutes and doesn't use all the minutes and comes back later to use some minutes and can't find the link then joe blow thinks they can't use those minutes anymore and calls AEBN cause they want their money back. What was also asked was don't you send a link in their email to the theater for them to gain access. The response was yes we send them an email but most don't pay attention to the email. To me it all sounded pretty fucking lame.

Gary

Dirty F · 06-26-2008, 06:29 AM

AEBN doesnt care. They know it too many links will be pulled all they have to do is say sorry guys, we didnt mean it that way and everything is cool again.

cayme · 06-26-2008, 06:33 AM

AEBN really sucks

xentech · 06-26-2008, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

That is their lame thread... I wanted the surfer thread that started it all.

It was deleted. Saying that, how could you miss it? It got to like 11 pages...

MichaelP · 06-26-2008, 07:14 AM

LIFETIME = LIFETIME ... Amen

Gnus · 06-26-2008, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent Bob Jedi

yup they are taking a different route then vs did thinking if they don't respond it will just die

Yep that's what they are thinking.

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Originally Posted by xentech

It was deleted. Saying that, how could you miss it? It got to like 11 pages...

It was close to 20 pages actually.

Gary

Karupted Charles · 06-26-2008, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jetjet

someone should start an affiliate gripe blog, kind of a storing house for drama to record the history as it progressed and any resolutions, would be a good reference for affiliates in deciding who they want to send traffic to... although I'm thinking forum copyrights on content would make it risky to save thread contents in a separate independent blog though I guess

It's called shave bucks and someone has been doing it for some time.

James_Hotmovies · 06-26-2008, 07:43 AM

OK, at first I wasn't going to share my thoughts, but after thinking about it over night thoughts should be shared.

AEBN is under constant threat from Hotmovies, Yappo, AdultRental and some other sites.
AEBN has enough traffic and doesn't need affiliates.
AEBN pays out a lot of money, 90% of which is probably old recurring.

Before this:
Affiliates had no reason not to try Hotmovies, Yappo, AdultRental. They'll still get their checks from AEBN which is probably >90% recurring from years past.
Affiliates not only get recurring, but they also get a lot of new recurring. Win for affiliate, win for Hotmovies, Yappo, AdultRental. Loss for AEBN.
Personally I know hotmovies has gotten a lot of large AEBN affiliates to switch. I'm sure the other VOD programs could say the same.

Now since putting this into place AEBN is all in the win category:

Affiliate pulls traffic - AEBN keeps recurring money and sleeps on piles of cash.
Affiliate keeps traffic with AEBN - AEBN keeps sending checks, other VOD companies are blocked from that affiliate - AEBN sleeps on a pile of money

AEBN is a tough competitor. I don't think they care about the affiliate as much as they care about the bottom line.

I'm not saying their affiliate reps don't care about affiliates, I'm talking about the management who actually run the company. I'm sure their reps are all reading this thread and wondering how they are going to do their job with this working against them.

qxm · 06-26-2008, 07:47 AM

Hollyshit yet another sponsor that bites the dust..........

cranki · 06-26-2008, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelP

LIFETIME = LIFETIME ... Amen

word....

GatorB · 06-26-2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by js_nice_guy

Affiliates not only get recurring, but they also get a lot of new recurring. Win for affiliate, win for Hotmovies, Yappo, AdultRental. Loss for AEBN..

How is it a loss? AEBN only pays out 20% Most revshare is at least 50% some up to 70% So how many thousands am I out by not getting 50%. So they way I look at it it shouldn't fucking matter.

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06-25-2008, 10:33 PM	#181
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06-25-2008, 03:29 PM	#157
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	So let me sum it up. You say this: B: I know video Secrets is an honorable company Still you decide to totally attack them one day and then suddenly the next day youre calling them stand up people again. There is something seriously fucking wrong with you you fucking psycho idiot. You know that right. Or maybe you just talk so fucking much bullshit you dont even have a clue anymore what opinion you had about what company 2 days ago. That wouldnt surprise me as youre in every fucking thread acting like you know it all. You dumb fuck. Plus how you admitted you would call every person a stand up person in exchange for money makes you truly one of the biggest retards on this board. But thats nothing new i guess.

06-25-2008, 03:54 PM	#161
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06-25-2008, 03:56 PM	#162
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,405	I can't believe no one posted a link to the VS thread yet... Don't make me look... I know one of you still has it in a tab.

06-25-2008, 04:22 PM	#165
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Its funny how AlienQ is all over the place with his idiotic i know it all shit but as soon as you confront him with his lunatic opinions that change every day depending on what kinda meds hes on i guess he suddenly stops posting in those threads. Just like in the VS threads and now this one. That guy has serious problems going on.

06-25-2008, 05:10 PM	#167
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	My aebn stats = sent 3596 uniques = 68 members referred, earnings = $57.65 = $1.60 per click.. hope aebn makes a response to this thread

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06-26-2008, 06:26 AM	#189
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06-26-2008, 06:29 AM	#191
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	AEBN doesnt care. They know it too many links will be pulled all they have to do is say sorry guys, we didnt mean it that way and everything is cool again.

06-26-2008, 06:33 AM	#192
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06-26-2008, 07:43 AM	#197
James_Hotmovies Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 399	OK, at first I wasn't going to share my thoughts, but after thinking about it over night thoughts should be shared. AEBN is under constant threat from Hotmovies, Yappo, AdultRental and some other sites. AEBN has enough traffic and doesn't need affiliates. AEBN pays out a lot of money, 90% of which is probably old recurring. Before this: Affiliates had no reason not to try Hotmovies, Yappo, AdultRental. They'll still get their checks from AEBN which is probably >90% recurring from years past. Affiliates not only get recurring, but they also get a lot of new recurring. Win for affiliate, win for Hotmovies, Yappo, AdultRental. Loss for AEBN. Personally I know hotmovies has gotten a lot of large AEBN affiliates to switch. I'm sure the other VOD programs could say the same. Now since putting this into place AEBN is all in the win category: Affiliate pulls traffic - AEBN keeps recurring money and sleeps on piles of cash. Affiliate keeps traffic with AEBN - AEBN keeps sending checks, other VOD companies are blocked from that affiliate - AEBN sleeps on a pile of money AEBN is a tough competitor. I don't think they care about the affiliate as much as they care about the bottom line. I'm not saying their affiliate reps don't care about affiliates, I'm talking about the management who actually run the company. I'm sure their reps are all reading this thread and wondering how they are going to do their job with this working against them. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/jamescybert www.adultrental.com

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