Escalation of Covert OPs vs. Iran for Regime Change - GoFuckYourself.com

dav3 · 06-28-2008, 10:07 PM

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...News& sp=true

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NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. congressional leaders agreed late last year to President George W. Bush's funding request for a major escalation of covert operations against Iran aimed at destabilizing its leadership, according to a report in The New Yorker magazine published online on Sunday.

The article by reporter Seymour Hersh, from the magazine's July 7 and 14 issue, centers around a highly classified Presidential Finding signed by Bush which by U.S. law must be made known to Democratic and Republican House and Senate leaders and ranking members of the intelligence committees.

"The Finding was focused on undermining Iran's nuclear ambitions and trying to undermine the government through regime change," the article cited a person familiar with its contents as saying, and involved "working with opposition groups and passing money."

Hersh has written previously about possible administration plans to go to war to stop Tehran from obtaining nuclear weapons, including an April 2006 article in the New Yorker that suggested regime change in Iran, whether by diplomatic or military means, was Bush's ultimate goal.

Funding for the covert escalation, for which Bush requested up to $400 million, was approved by congressional leaders, according to the article, citing current and former military, intelligence and congressional sources.

Clandestine operations against Iran are not new. U.S. Special Operations Forces have been conducting crossborder operations from southern Iraq since last year, the article said.

These have included seizing members of Al Quds, the commando arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and taking them to Iraq for interrogation, and the pursuit of "high-value targets" in Bush's war on terrorism, who may be captured or killed, according to the article.

But the scale and the scope of the operations in Iran, which include the Central Intelligence Agency, have now been significantly expanded, the article said, citing current and former officials.

Many of these activities are not specified in the new finding, and some congressional leaders have had serious questions about their nature, it said.

Among groups inside Iran benefiting from U.S. support is the Jundallah, also known as the Iranian People's Resistance Movement, according to former CIA officer Robert Baer. Council on Foreign Relations analyst Vali Nasr described it to Hersh as a vicious organization suspected of links to al Qaeda.

The article said U.S. support for the dissident groups could prompt a violent crackdown by Iran, which could give the Bush administration a reason to intervene.

None of the Democratic leaders in Congress would comment on the finding, the article said. The White House, which has repeatedly denied preparing for military action against Iran, and the CIA also declined comment.

The United States is leading international efforts to rein in Iran's suspected effort to develop nuclear weapons, although Washington concedes Iran has the right to develop nuclear power for civilian uses.

Instead of a regime change in Iran, perhaps we should focus on a 'regime change' in our OWN country!?

tony286 · 06-28-2008, 10:18 PM

They did this before in Iran and it didnt work. Dont they ever fucking learn.

u-Bob · 06-29-2008, 06:38 AM

nothing wrong with that

xmas13 · 06-29-2008, 07:06 AM

Washington loves secular dictators, supported one (Arafat) in Palestine, one (Shah) in Iran, now we have a democratically-elected Muslim president in Gaza, democratically-elected Muslim president in Iran, but it's not fine because the fire must burn, children must die, it's important for Americans to play Arabs vs Persians, Jews vs Arabs, Jews vs Persians and so on, bc imagine if tomorrow the Middle East became democratic, Muslims are a majority in the former Mandate of Palestine, Jews would lose their apartheid state, and Anglo-Americans would lose their petro monarchies in the Gulf, the jerk offs who buy useless weaponry, spend fortunes on useless real estate and accept toilet paper for the most valuable commodity.

directfiesta · 06-29-2008, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

nothing wrong with that

" They hate us ... because ... of our freedoms ... "

xmas13 · 06-29-2008, 07:13 AM

Commodities attract imperialists like animals attract mosquitoes, suck baby suck!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-29-2008, 10:58 AM

Yeah and Iran is innocent...

Let's see Arming insurgence, training insurgence, sending KUD's forces over to target American personnel. Hiding Al Sader that islamic pussy in there country and telling him how to guide his little resistance force. Arming the resistance in Iraq to commit genecide against sunni's...

The list goes on and on and on top of that all they are arming Hezbollah in Palestine, threatening the destruction of Isreal while preparing to make nukes. Why is the nuke thing a problem? It's obvious Iran is not forth comming about it's nuclear work, it continues to herring the UN and hide it's all its research. Little something about the whole nuclear thing to... All countries that have nuclear power have checks and balances with one another with disclosure of nuclear research and weaponry, why is Iran so special to not have to do this?

Fuck Iran kill the fucken Mullah's, regime change them retards so they can get on the same page as the rest of the world.

IllTestYourGirls · 06-29-2008, 11:15 AM

when we learn to let other people take care of their own countries, because they can, the safer we will be.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-29-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

when we learn to let other people take care of their own countries, because they can, the safer we will be.

Tell that to Iran whom sends people to kill Iraqi's and AMericans alike...

IllTestYourGirls · 06-29-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Tell that to Iran whom sends people to kill Iraqi's and AMericans alike...

They would not be sending them over if we were not there or ever went there

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Dont want americans dead? Bring them home, where they belong.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-29-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

They would not be sending them over if we were not there or ever went there

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You really think so? LOL!

IllTestYourGirls · 06-29-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

You really think so? LOL!

How could they kill Americans in Iraq if there were none?

David! · 06-29-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

How could they kill Americans in Iraq if there were none?

Fuck off loser, they've been messing with the USA when you were still jerking to the sears catalog.
Get a fucking clue and go back to your mama

u-Bob · 06-29-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

How could they kill Americans in Iraq if there were none?

if there weren't any Americans in Iraq, they'd kill them somewhere else...

u-Bob · 06-29-2008, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

when we learn to let other people take care of their own countries, because they can, the safer we will be.

u-Bob · 06-29-2008, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

" They hate us ... because ... of our freedoms ... "

<---- not an American.

directfiesta · 06-29-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

if there weren't any Americans in Iraq, they'd kill them somewhere else...

Hummm .... so let me know when Iranians went off to kill americans and where ..

Oups, forgot 9/11 ... Damn iranians terrorists ...

dav3 · 06-29-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

" They hate us ... because ... of our freedoms ... "

my thoughts exactly

cykoe6 · 06-29-2008, 06:41 PM

If those of you on the left don't support a ground assault or a bombing campaign and you don't support any covert actions........ is there any strategy you would support other than surrender?

directfiesta · 06-29-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6

If those of you on the left don't support a ground assault or a bombing campaign and you don't support any covert actions........ is there any strategy you would support other than surrender?

idiot

dav3 · 06-30-2008, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6

If those of you on the left don't support a ground assault or a bombing campaign and you don't support any covert actions........ is there any strategy you would support other than surrender?

Not wasting tax money on programs to overthrow foreign leaders would be a good start.

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