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Old 07-01-2008, 10:09 PM   #1
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If you've used your ATM card at a 7-11 in the USA you're fucked

or could be kinda fucked.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080701/...tec_atm_breach

This is some crazy shit.

Hackers broke into Citibank's network of ATMs inside 7-Eleven stores and stole customers' PIN codes, according to recent court filings that revealed a disturbing security hole in the most sensitive part of a banking record.

The scam netted the alleged identity thieves millions of dollars. But more importantly for consumers, it indicates criminals were able to access PINs ? the numeric passwords that theoretically are among the most closely guarded elements of banking transactions ? by attacking the back-end computers responsible for approving the cash withdrawals.

The case against three people in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York highlights a significant problem.

Hackers are targeting the ATM system's infrastructure, which is increasingly built on Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating system and allows machines to be remotely diagnosed and repaire

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080701/...tec_atm_breach

There gonna be lots more of this shit.
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:12 PM   #2
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:14 PM   #3
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Hackers are targeting the ATM system's infrastructure, which is increasingly built on Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating system and allows machines to be remotely diagnosed and repaire
quick, put the blame on M$, that will take attention way from the banks fault

i mean, this wouldnt happen in an Apple world
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:17 PM   #4
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I want to thank everyone that made an ATM withdrawal at 7-11....
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:20 PM   #5
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what's 7-11
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:23 PM   #6
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I want to thank everyone that made an ATM withdrawal at 7-11....
Don't forget to thank Mr. Gates as well...
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:32 PM   #7
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what's 7-11
a huge chain of convenience stores open 24/7
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:40 PM   #8
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:45 PM   #9
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:51 PM   #10
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:57 PM   #11
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When did this happen? About a year ago I had someone try to steal $3k out of my bank out via my debit card.

They fucked up because they were greedy. They tried to send the money via western union and send $1,5k on the first transaction which was cleared. After that they tried tried another $1,5k which again was cleared at first but it triggered WU's fraud because of the two transitions so they were both put back into my account before I even knew it was gone.

The most fucked up part is WU didn't bother to contact my bank only reason I even found out about it, was because I noticed the transactions and had to call WU to see wtf was going on.
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:08 PM   #12
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When did this happen? About a year ago I had someone try to steal $3k out of my bank out via my debit card.

They fucked up because they were greedy. They tried to send the money via western union and send $1,5k on the first transaction which was cleared. After that they tried tried another $1,5k which again was cleared at first but it triggered WU's fraud because of the two transitions so they were both put back into my account before I even knew it was gone.

The most fucked up part is WU didn't bother to contact my bank only reason I even found out about it, was because I noticed the transactions and had to call WU to see wtf was going on.
Lucky you. But you must have made some mistake which ended up having your debit card info compromised. If it was WU case, may be you fell for some email scam?
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:12 PM   #13
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what kind of idiot runs mission critical software on windows?
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:13 PM   #14
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That is crazy. I'm glad I don't really like 7 11 even though there are several nearby and I never use their ATM machines.
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:45 PM   #15
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i always use my atm card as a cc as the bank gives me $ back if i do
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:54 PM   #16
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good i hope they go back to using normal atm's in 7-11's now

the reason they are open to hacking....is the fact that they are these HUGE western union/payroll cashing/atm/computers all-in-one

i just assumed this would happen since day 1
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Old 07-02-2008, 12:03 AM   #17
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This would explain why Citibank has sent me two new ATM cards in the last year due to "security breaches".
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Old 07-02-2008, 12:10 AM   #18
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Old 07-02-2008, 12:10 AM   #19
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Lucky you. But you must have made some mistake which ended up having your debit card info compromised. If it was WU case, may be you fell for some email scam?
lol damn sure no e-mail scam.. the only reason WU was involved is because that's where the thief used my card numbers. I've never used WU online. I can't be 100% but I assume someone must have used a card reader at a restaurant or something.

I never use my debit card online I just use it local for gas and at normal stores. Anything online I use a normal credit card.
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Old 07-02-2008, 02:58 AM   #20
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Old 07-02-2008, 06:30 AM   #22
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lol damn sure no e-mail scam.. the only reason WU was involved is because that's where the thief used my card numbers. I've never used WU online. I can't be 100% but I assume someone must have used a card reader at a restaurant or something.

I never use my debit card online I just use it local for gas and at normal stores. Anything online I use a normal credit card.
did you not read my post bro?

western union is usually attached to these new "unsecured" atm's
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Old 07-02-2008, 06:38 AM   #23
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.. would never happen under a GOP leader ....

and I don't comment on your characterisation by your mispelling.
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Old 07-02-2008, 07:17 AM   #24
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quick, put the blame on M$, that will take attention way from the banks fault

i mean, this wouldnt happen in an Apple world
well whoever made it so hackers can login to a cash machine over internet is a dick
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Old 07-02-2008, 08:42 AM   #27
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People try to steal from my Debit Card sooo often that the bank locked me down to a $300 daily limit.

and my account is always "warm".. if they suspect someone might be stealing they lock the fucker up tighter than my asshole..

it's the most annoying thing ever.. Seems to always happen Friday afternoon right after the bank closes too.. leaves me without a card all weekend..

Fucking thieves can lick my balls..
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Holy shit, that is fucking huge. It just goes to show the inherent insecurity in the current ATM system. Magnetic stripe cards are 40 year old technology and it just can't keep up against modern threats. The banks have known about this for 20 years or so and still do nothing to upgrade.

The ISO working group that originally created the standards knew there was only one flaw that could bring down the system, that is; lack of customer faith in the system. That day seems to be approaching quickly.
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My 7-11's all have the shitty old school crap ATM's...

Good because they are not based on Microsoft.
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well, that sucks - I use mine almost every day across the street from our office
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