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Old 07-05-2008, 02:25 PM   #51
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Interesting, so where should people go for their AVS needs?
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Old 07-05-2008, 03:11 PM   #52
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Interesting, so where should people go for their AVS needs?
these days it may be better to run your own site.

in the past it was easer and cheaper to use avs as it meant no real cost to you (as in hosting).

with hosting as cheap as it is now, its better to do it all yourself.
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Old 07-05-2008, 07:08 PM   #53
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Old 07-05-2008, 11:03 PM   #54
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Old 07-06-2008, 12:38 AM   #55
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Bad news
I've been working with PA for years. I just hope they'll pay!
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Old 07-06-2008, 01:59 AM   #56
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Old 07-06-2008, 02:18 AM   #57
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you know what's weird? I thought AVS didn't exist anymore, lol I don't know, I feel like a took a time tunnel that took me to 1999
I had to come out of my GFY posting hiatus for this one....

AVS is most certainly alive. A few of you might know me as being the owner of a few AVS programs over the pasgt 12 years (AdultSights, SexKey, ManSites) But whatever people may call it these days; AVS, AEN, etc., the reality is that it is still here and still very, very much alive and kicking... It is unfortunate that things have seem to come to and end like this with PA. I have personally never had any dealings with PA over the years, but I know they were a very serious competitor of ours for a long time. With that being said and me being ever the opportunist... If anyone does have any questions about AVS, site migration issues to SK, etc, you can get a hold of me anytime at

hank @ sexkey.com

Being what you would call an old timer, I have seen many, many companies come and go. The ones that hurt the most are the ones that you have years and years of rebills tied up in revshare with. I know everyone has been affected by some of those, myself included. I wish all of those caught up in this well. If we can help in any way whatsoever, please let me or Adam know. My email goes straight to my phone and Adam can attest that I am a junkie when it comes to emailing/texting. So I will get back to you as quick as I can and see how we can help you get back to making money again. Hope everyone in the US had a healthy and happy 4th.

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Old 07-06-2008, 03:10 AM   #58
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Let's get this straight. You are telling people to go ahead and use ProAdult for your AVS needs. Did you even look at the title of this thread? What the fuck! Are people that oblivious? Now normally I don't like being an asshole about things but isn't MegaPartner affiliated with ProAdult and Voyeurweb? It's my understanding that MegaPartner was ProAdult's solution to enable webmasters to have an upsell in their Quantum members area. I may be wrong but since ProAdult owes $4,000 not including 127 recurring memberships I am afforded the right to be pissed.
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Old 07-06-2008, 03:28 AM   #59
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Let's get this straight. You are telling people to go ahead and use ProAdult for your AVS needs. Did you even look at the title of this thread? What the fuck! Are people that oblivious? Now normally I don't like being an asshole about things but isn't MegaPartner affiliated with ProAdult and Voyeurweb? It's my understanding that MegaPartner was ProAdult's solution to enable webmasters to have an upsell in their Quantum members area. I may be wrong but since ProAdult owes $4,000 not including 127 recurring memberships I am afforded the right to be pissed.

i cannot see proadult being skint.

voyerweb is huge and must make them huge cash each day.
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Old 07-06-2008, 04:41 AM   #60
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i cannot see proadult being skint.

voyerweb is huge and must make them huge cash each day.
This is one of the major issues though. The Voyeurweb crew states that they are no longer affiliated with ProAdult and in fact ProAdult is under completely new management. Now between what Igor says is the truth and reality are two different things. The front page of ProAdult has a link to Voyeurweb. Processing from Homeclips, Redclouds, and all the other business ventures that is under Voyeurweb's control go through the ProAdult domain. Sites on ProAdult servers are being redirected to Voyeurweb. You tell me you have completely distanced yourself from ProAdult and I will tell you that's bullshit and it's obvious. What makes things worse, other than not getting paid, is this direct insult to our intelligence.
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:57 AM   #61
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I feel very bad for the webmasters that have not gotten paid. We have already started accepting a lot of the pro adult webmasters that want to switch to a reliable AVS. Since we have been paying webmasters since 1996 Webmasters are coming to us to handle their needs.

If anybody has any questions, or would like to convert their ProAdult sites over to CyberAge, An Avs that has been around since 1996 and pays out millions and millions per year, Hit me up, I could get your switched over really easily. Free Hosting, Free Content, Fast Webmaster Support, And the most important thing is that You Will Get Paid Every Single Pay Period.
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Old 07-06-2008, 11:47 AM   #62
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Let's get this straight. You are telling people to go ahead and use ProAdult for your AVS needs. Did you even look at the title of this thread? What the fuck! Are people that oblivious? Now normally I don't like being an asshole about things but isn't MegaPartner affiliated with ProAdult and Voyeurweb? It's my understanding that MegaPartner was ProAdult's solution to enable webmasters to have an upsell in their Quantum members area. I may be wrong but since ProAdult owes $4,000 not including 127 recurring memberships I am afforded the right to be pissed.
Megapartner is a complete different program and by any means they are NOT affiliated with proadult. I'm sorry that my post hurt your feelings as it was meant to be a humorous post.
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Old 07-06-2008, 12:10 PM   #63
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Did you even read the thread?

Not only did it fuck over it's webmasters, it fucks over it's own employees as well.

Clearly, you haven't read anything....
You forgot that the cop ate a donut.
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Old 07-06-2008, 11:06 PM   #64
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Megapartner is a complete different program and by any means they are NOT affiliated with proadult. I'm sorry that my post hurt your feelings as it was meant to be a humorous post.
No, it's I that needs to apologize. I should have figured it was a joke, so hopefully, no hard feelings.
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Old 07-07-2008, 02:48 AM   #65
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Proadult webmasters, who live in US. Why you do not release lawyers? They will destroy everyone on this way to get your money back.
And, as writed above, turn your traffic to AE:
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Old 07-07-2008, 09:46 AM   #66
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Old 07-07-2008, 10:10 AM   #67
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Old 07-07-2008, 10:37 AM   #68
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I know john for over 20 years and he is the most honest guy i ever known, he is very hard working and loves helping people out, this is some fucked up shit Proadult pulled on john and all the webmasters over at PA. I hope everything turns out fine for you bro.
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Old 07-07-2008, 01:00 PM   #71
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I've read all the posts here but I couldn't find the reason why they are doing this..

Did I miss something here?

WHY they aren't paying out? What did they told you John?
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Old 07-07-2008, 02:37 PM   #72
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I havent gotten any solid responses from them in the past 3 months on this issue. I know that they have a problem with their merchant account having a red flag but as far as the payouts were concerned, I had no control over any of that. I told them numerous times, "wht am I supposed to tell these webmasters? they are staying loyal for the time being because you are telling me they will get paid and im relaying this information to them so Im starting to look like Im lying to them." All their response was that I need to tell everyone that Im "just and employee" and Im relaying info from them to the public. Quite a few webmasters here have been going through this with me over the last few months and I've met a few of them in person and spoke to many others through the phone and emails. This situations till baffles me and the only conclusion I can come up with is that they saw their program sinking and decided to keep anything that they currently have being generated until all the rebills die out. There is no other reasonable explanation that I can come up with.

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Old 07-07-2008, 03:06 PM   #73
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they saw their program sinking and decided to keep anything that they currently have being generated until all the rebills die out
Now we can say (on this moment) - owners of ProAdult is "american cheaters".
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Damn!!

I still got checks from Pro-adult, noticed the company names on the checks changing with more and more frequency so I guess I kinda saw this coming, but sounds like the guys that own Pro-Adult (the guys that run VW) decided to give everyone a big FUCK YOU old school AVS going out of biz style ala AC... assholes... I want my 1 rebill I have left a month payout!!

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Old 07-07-2008, 03:57 PM   #75
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If people are monitoring this PA has shut down their member sign up pages. "Signup temporarily disabled." now appears if you try to join any of the sites in their directory.
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:03 PM   #76
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Wasn't there an owner by the name of Patrick too?
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C'mon man...Not all AVS programs rip off webmasters

Don't disrespect the pizza parlor...or your friendly fellow NJ porno people
Yes, what he said...Not all AVS Programs. We've been paying out millions since 1996.
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I feel very bad for the webmasters that have not gotten paid. We have already started accepting a lot of the pro adult webmasters that want to switch to a reliable AVS. Since we have been paying webmasters since 1996 Webmasters are coming to us to handle their needs.

If anybody has any questions, or would like to convert their ProAdult sites over to CyberAge, An Avs that has been around since 1996 and pays out millions and millions per year, Hit me up, I could get your switched over really easily. Free Hosting, Free Content, Fast Webmaster Support, And the most important thing is that You Will Get Paid Every Single Pay Period.
Thanks Gary, you beat me to it.
We have been at it since 96, we are in it for the long haul and still rated number one in the AVS/AEN category. Anything we can do for your business, just ask and we will make it happen.

We still even pay for clicks sent to the signup pages and middle page bonuses.
Easy money and you know you will get paid.
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I hear Igor is in rehab.....and that the program has been sold.
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I hear Igor is in rehab.....and that the program has been sold.
If what you are saying is true, which I highly doubt, the people who baught it are in for the biggest headaches of thier lives. How could someone buy a company that is in debt for hundreds of thousands of dollars especially to its webmasters. Their signup pages are still down as well.
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Igor - We were informed November 2007 by Visa and Mastercard that they want the 2257 info for every website hosted at the PA central office. Of course that is not a feasible thing...and our legal dept jumped on it. So far without any luck. Around 8 weeks ago the entire PA operation was given away to a 3rd party. How do they run their merchant accounts? No idea! We negotiated a grace period: If we are able to re-instate merchant accounts for PA operations will be returned to the company who used to run PA. So far no luck. In other words: PA already separated regarding ownership but is still logically tied to VW and RC (through GWS and RRC). The logical link might be removed very soon. It all depends on how the 3rd party decides on their future plans with PA and on any cooperation with us or not.

This is all I know about this whole thing. Due to my ongoing rehab I am not in a condition to deal with this situation myself...sorry. Whenever I hear news about this subject I will post it right here.
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Thats bullshit because I was with them till the 4th of july. Also they started redirecting all the sites subdirectories that had left the system to the voyeurweb.Which new owner in their rightful mind would do something to send their traffic to the old owners. It just doesnt make sense.
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Also that 2257 claim is bullshit. We never had a problem with anyone in terms to documentation for the life of my employment there.
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Without this thread I wouldnt even find out that I am missing checks from them too.
I was getting around 100usd from proadult every month for 0 work. Its gone....

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Without this thread I wouldnt even find out that I am missing checks from them too.
I was getting around 100usd from proadult every month for 0 work. Its gone....
I was getting more, but now it doesn't matter. We are moving all our sites to AE.
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Attention Attention,

I just finished a 3 hour meeting with the guys here at CyberAge and we have a very special offer to webmasters that want to move their sites over to us. The most reliable, profitable avs/aen out there.

Once you move your sites over to us, you will get full access to your own members area using your password...

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they owe since 4/16 over 8 grand and i need that money bad!!!!
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Also that 2257 claim is bullshit. We never had a problem with anyone in terms to documentation for the life of my employment there.
John, Is the link in your sig going to be yours or ruffs? I dont know if he is still involved or not but some of those girls started with him is why im asking.
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I just finished a 3 hour meeting with the guys here at CyberAge and we have a very special offer to webmasters that want to move their sites over to us. The most reliable, profitable avs/aen out there.

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Just want to remind everyone that we have 7 webmaster support representatives here everyday to help get your sites submitted and approved and ready to make money, so if anybody has any questions, or would like to get their sites up on the CyberAge Network, do not hesitate to ask...
I have to second Gary, Cyberage rocks, and has rocked for me over the years. Sad about Proadult, I never used them but I understand lots did.
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What's the offer?
The offer is that you will receive a check (if your owed one) and of course the free access to your members area. (haha)

No joke here, CyberAge doesn't mess around. Ask around 12 years strong and counting.
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The offer is that you will receive a check (if your owed one) and of course the free access to your members area. (haha)

No joke here, CyberAge doesn't mess around. Ask around 12 years strong and counting.
Damn, 12 years going on 13. I am getting old.
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Old 07-08-2008, 11:21 PM   #94
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John, Is the link in your sig going to be yours or ruffs? I dont know if he is still involved or not but some of those girls started with him is why im asking.
The webmasters came to me and asked to create another network for them to move their sites to because they werent getting paid so we came up with this idea and accepted whoever wanted to move there if they were solo girl sites. Affilite program for the sites coming soon.
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Did you even read the thread?

Not only did it fuck over it's webmasters, it fucks over it's own employees as well.

Clearly, you haven't read anything....
Since this is a webmaster board, fucking over the webmasters is the pertinent news. The employees were probably just people who failed at being webmasters anyways.

I read plenty, but am in no way shocked that an AVS company fucked over webmasters, vendors, employees, the bank where they had their merchant account, their wives and girlfriends, stole candy from babies or flip-flopped on campaign promises.

I've been around long enough to know that AVS just isn't worth it. Hell, even adult check told most of their webmasters to get fucked....and that was the one name in this biz that I thought would outlast all the others.


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Old 07-09-2008, 08:25 PM   #96
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But our webmaster area has been indefinitely disabled.
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The offer is that you will receive a check (if your owed one) and of course the free access to your members area. (haha)

No joke here, CyberAge doesn't mess around. Ask around 12 years strong and counting.
I remember when you guys were AgeCheck and I busted my ass for the first year of being a webmaster. I made a living with big fat checks. Since then I have moved on but I still get sign-ups and recurs on my network of sites.


"CyberAge doesn't mess around"...so true!
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also my hosting is all deleted and i lost over a 1000 sites !!!!! AVS is a fluke do not join on
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I just heared that ProAdult aren't planing to pay out what they owe.

So write it off.
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I really should toss up my old adultcheck sites on cyberage and sexkey.
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