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Do you edit photos on a Mac?
Been on the PC for years without any problem. All of sudden I go out and buy a Mac, install photoshop and work away. What I notice is that any photo I work on inside of Photoshop or Nikon Capture (I would imagine any program does this on a mac) I get the skin to look perfect and then I save a jpg. When I open that same image up in safari or in image preview on a mac the skin looks over saturated or reddish. Does not matter what monitor I use.
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its very common when you switch over... ive heard red and blue hues...
ive personally never experienced this since im strictly PC... Ive been thinking about geeting a mac as a spare JUST to see if im missing something or if im right... but i continually here about the hues coming out of mac editing... i find here on my pc... that when i edit photos in PS its perfect ( after i touche them up of course ;) ) but when i view it in my windows folder view it has the red hue... but online, same as PS... too many different chips n shit
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Color profile issues.
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The way a MAC displays colors and the way a Non Apple Pc displays colors are different you are going to have to get caught up on Color Profiles and Proof Colors .... and find a comfortable middle ground..
Also are these pictures going to end up in print or the web? This is the major problem with the web no two people will ever see your image the exact same..
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interesting, when I "save for web" the image saves with the same colors it had in photoshop. So when I save for the web it saves with proper colors. When I save any other way the colors are skin tones are reddish/over saturated. |
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For JPEGS turn off ICC Profie (uncheck) Uhmm.. Also to give you an idea of how things will look on a windows monitor or a mac monitor or specifically your monitor in a browser.. Play with the Proof colors under View > Proof Setup Also when you save for web it has the same View options for Proof Colors and if it isn't set to match what you have on your canvas it will throw you off.. That's the little arrow in the circle above SAVE on the right side of the save for web window... You also gotta make sure your canvas is set to sRGB color profile... Google Photoshop Color profiles because I'm only giving you like 1/4 of what you need to know... It also helps to have a few different screens and computers to check stuff out on...
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Wow I just had verbal diarhea up there..
Oh also.. I have a lot less problems designing and saving for web on a Non Apple Pc... It seems whatever i save on a Non Apple box looks great on any computer Mac or Non Mac.. *shrug* Colors is something that has bothered me for a long time...
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Sorry i'm not more of a computer geek.
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Yea...its a profile issue...not OS platform
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No, I prefer using a computer.
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Apple allows you to define profiles for various output sources. Go into System Preferences and choose Monitors, then click on Color and adjust your overall color settings for your monitor(s). It allows you a choice of profiles, let's you alter them and calibrate. However, if you work in photoshop, these settings will be overwritten by photoshops profile preferences. In PS go to -> EDIT -> COLOR SETTINGS. Most other image editing programs like Aperture will allow to make the same settings. Play around with it for 5 minutes and you will figure it out easily.
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change your gamma to 2.2 which is the windows standard and then make sure your converting to sRGB color profiles
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I own a MacBook Pro, and any time I have any crossover issues between platforms, I just load up windows on my paralells desktop on windows vista. That's one of the great things I love about my mac, if for some inane reason I can't do something on my mac I can always use the same computer to open up windows on it as well.
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I just installed photoshop and lightroom on my mac last night .. been up all night editing pics. the mac works beautifully with photoshop and lightroom ( i found my pc really lagged when running lightroom) you might have your images in CMYK .. I ve noticed the same thing in the past when editing pics in CMYK and saving them for the processed for the web.. go with SRGB
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Never had that happen, you shooting RAW or JPEG? If you are shooting JPEG, you will notice ALOT of unpleasant things when you edit on an HD Mac monitor you may not have noticed on a PC. Hopefully you are shooting and editing RAW.
My pics will turn an orange hue when I resize using Sizerox and it sucks. |
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I use a Mac for my full time desktop and let me say MACS FUCKING SUCK FOR ANY GRAPHICS OR PHOTO WORK!!!
There's no software on the Mac that is equivalent to Downloader Pro from Breezesys. If you burn the images for a non-mac client your jpegs will be oriented wrong because a lot of PC software ignores the rotate flag in the header. I don't get why the camera doesn't just save them in different orientations instead of being lazy and just setting flag. It has to do the bayesian demosaicing anyways, not like there's any performance issues. I have a Dell 30" and any photo software that uses color profiles fucks everything up. What I see on the screen is not what it actually looks like. What's the point of a monitor color profile if you're just going to fuck it up. Ironically, any app that doesn't do color management works perfectly. Unfortunately, there aren't any RAW converters on the Mac that ignore color profiles. I've spent 80 hours over the course of a month trying to get a workflow that works on the Mac. Have yet to find anything. If I view an image with an embedded sRGB profile in Preview it loooks fucked up. If I strip out the profile it looks fine. Funny thing is, stripped out profiles are supposed to be sRGB anyways. WTF Apple?!?!?!? I'm not going to pay $1700 for a Cinema display when I can get a superior display for $1200. Photoshop completely sucks too. PC version is way better. Going through images is really slow. Fastest I've seen is Bridge but it has major performance issues and distorts the images. There's nothing as nice as ACDSee on the Mac. I've looked forever. The RAW converter software absolutely blows on Mac. I tried Capture One, Lightroom and Aperture. The term power user never occurred to any of them. Hate all of them. Bad performance and interface is very clumsy and inefficient. They need to read some books on HCI theory. Best I've seen is Capture One v3 on the PC. I swear, I'm going to spend the time learning Objective-C and Cocoa just so I can write photography software that is actually usable. I'd probably make a fortune. Otherwise, for programming, the Mac absolutely rules. Which is weird because I've always heard PC's are for technical people and Macs are for creative professionals. Definitely not the case in my opinion. |
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Oh and I forgot another annoying issue. When I do photo work on the Mac I have to use one color profile while making my edits. But if I save for web from there the colors are fucked up. So I have to change to another profile before doing save for web. Saving works, but then I have to switch back if I actually want to edit it again. Fucking retarded!
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What does burning software got to do with it? They just write files, they have no concept what's in the files. I have a Canon 1D Mark II. I don't think ANY camera will do what I'm talking about. I think you've just never heard any complaints. If your workflow is what you say it is, it WILL looked fucked up under a lot of software on the PC. Vista might be different though, dunno, haven't really used it.
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