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VikingMan · 07-11-2008, 03:05 PM

Been on the PC for years without any problem. All of sudden I go out and buy a Mac, install photoshop and work away. What I notice is that any photo I work on inside of Photoshop or Nikon Capture (I would imagine any program does this on a mac) I get the skin to look perfect and then I save a jpg. When I open that same image up in safari or in image preview on a mac the skin looks over saturated or reddish. Does not matter what monitor I use.

Any ideas?

Deej · 07-11-2008, 03:09 PM

its very common when you switch over... ive heard red and blue hues...

ive personally never experienced this since im strictly PC...

Ive been thinking about geeting a mac as a spare JUST to see if im missing something or if im right... but i continually here about the hues coming out of mac editing...

i find here on my pc... that when i edit photos in PS its perfect ( after i touche them up of course ;) ) but when i view it in my windows folder view it has the red hue...

but online, same as PS...

too many different chips n shit

stickyfingerz · 07-11-2008, 03:15 PM

Color profile issues.

payd2purv · 07-11-2008, 03:16 PM

The way a MAC displays colors and the way a Non Apple Pc displays colors are different you are going to have to get caught up on Color Profiles and Proof Colors .... and find a comfortable middle ground..

Also are these pictures going to end up in print or the web?

This is the major problem with the web no two people will ever see your image the exact same..

VikingMan · 07-11-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by payd2purv

The way a MAC displays colors and the way a Non Apple Pc displays colors are different you are going to have to get caught up on Color Profiles and Proof Colors .... and find a comfortable middle ground..

Also are these pictures going to end up in print or the web?

This is the major problem with the web no two people will ever see your image the exact same..

for the web

interesting, when I "save for web" the image saves with the same colors it had in photoshop. So when I save for the web it saves with proper colors. When I save any other way the colors are skin tones are reddish/over saturated.

payd2purv · 07-11-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by *******

for the web

interesting, when I "save for web" the image saves with the same colors it had in photoshop. So when I save for the web it saves with proper colors. When I save any other way the colors are skin tones are reddish/over saturated.

Always save for web. FOR WEB because of the color profiles..

For JPEGS turn off ICC Profie (uncheck)

Uhmm.. Also to give you an idea of how things will look on a windows monitor or a mac monitor or specifically your monitor in a browser..

Play with the Proof colors under View > Proof Setup

Also when you save for web it has the same View options for Proof Colors and if it isn't set to match what you have on your canvas it will throw you off..

That's the little arrow in the circle above SAVE on the right side of the save for web window...

You also gotta make sure your canvas is set to sRGB color profile...

Google Photoshop Color profiles because I'm only giving you like 1/4 of what you need to know...

It also helps to have a few different screens and computers to check stuff out on...

payd2purv · 07-11-2008, 03:32 PM

Wow I just had verbal diarhea up there..

Oh also.. I have a lot less problems designing and saving for web on a Non Apple Pc... It seems whatever i save on a Non Apple box looks great on any computer Mac or Non Mac..

*shrug* Colors is something that has bothered me for a long time...

lumenus Amanda · 07-11-2008, 03:35 PM

Sorry i'm not more of a computer geek.

BiggleJones · 07-11-2008, 04:24 PM

Yea...its a profile issue...not OS platform

DamageX · 07-11-2008, 04:35 PM

No, I prefer using a computer.

Grapesoda · 07-11-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by *******

Been on the PC for years without any problem. All of sudden I go out and buy a Mac, install photoshop and work away. What I notice is that any photo I work on inside of Photoshop or Nikon Capture (I would imagine any program does this on a mac) I get the skin to look perfect and then I save a jpg. When I open that same image up in safari or in image preview on a mac the skin looks over saturated or reddish. Does not matter what monitor I use.

Any ideas?

that's why I've never switched. don't need and 'imaginary' issues in my work load...

VikingMan · 07-11-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

that's why I've never switched. don't need and 'imaginary' issues in my work load...

dood I fucking hated mac but now love it other than a few small issues

VikingMan · 07-11-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ******* Amanda

Sorry i'm not more of a computer geek.

yeah but you are great at scouting fresh locations

faxxaff · 07-11-2008, 08:00 PM

Apple allows you to define profiles for various output sources. Go into System Preferences and choose Monitors, then click on Color and adjust your overall color settings for your monitor(s). It allows you a choice of profiles, let's you alter them and calibrate. However, if you work in photoshop, these settings will be overwritten by photoshops profile preferences. In PS go to -> EDIT -> COLOR SETTINGS. Most other image editing programs like Aperture will allow to make the same settings. Play around with it for 5 minutes and you will figure it out easily.

peedy · 07-12-2008, 08:57 PM

change your gamma to 2.2 which is the windows standard and then make sure your converting to sRGB color profiles

Grapesoda · 07-12-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by *******

dood I fucking hated mac but now love it other than a few small issues

I have no 'emotional' feeling about mac one way or the other, just no interested in replicating all my software and learning a new system: imaginary problems

JeffCliff · 07-13-2008, 04:44 AM

I own a MacBook Pro, and any time I have any crossover issues between platforms, I just load up windows on my paralells desktop on windows vista. That's one of the great things I love about my mac, if for some inane reason I can't do something on my mac I can always use the same computer to open up windows on it as well.

vidvicious · 07-13-2008, 09:53 PM

loving my mac

I just installed photoshop and lightroom on my mac last night .. been up all night editing pics. the mac works beautifully with photoshop and lightroom ( i found my pc really lagged when running lightroom)

you might have your images in CMYK .. I ve noticed the same thing in the past when editing pics in CMYK and saving them for the processed for the web.. go with SRGB

Mr. E · 07-13-2008, 10:14 PM

Never had that happen, you shooting RAW or JPEG? If you are shooting JPEG, you will notice ALOT of unpleasant things when you edit on an HD Mac monitor you may not have noticed on a PC. Hopefully you are shooting and editing RAW.

My pics will turn an orange hue when I resize using Sizerox and it sucks.

brandonstills · 07-13-2008, 10:23 PM

I use a Mac for my full time desktop and let me say MACS FUCKING SUCK FOR ANY GRAPHICS OR PHOTO WORK!!!

There's no software on the Mac that is equivalent to Downloader Pro from Breezesys. If you burn the images for a non-mac client your jpegs will be oriented wrong because a lot of PC software ignores the rotate flag in the header. I don't get why the camera doesn't just save them in different orientations instead of being lazy and just setting flag. It has to do the bayesian demosaicing anyways, not like there's any performance issues.

I have a Dell 30" and any photo software that uses color profiles fucks everything up. What I see on the screen is not what it actually looks like. What's the point of a monitor color profile if you're just going to fuck it up. Ironically, any app that doesn't do color management works perfectly. Unfortunately, there aren't any RAW converters on the Mac that ignore color profiles. I've spent 80 hours over the course of a month trying to get a workflow that works on the Mac. Have yet to find anything. If I view an image with an embedded sRGB profile in Preview it loooks fucked up. If I strip out the profile it looks fine. Funny thing is, stripped out profiles are supposed to be sRGB anyways. WTF Apple?!?!?!? I'm not going to pay $1700 for a Cinema display when I can get a superior display for $1200.

Photoshop completely sucks too. PC version is way better. Going through images is really slow. Fastest I've seen is Bridge but it has major performance issues and distorts the images. There's nothing as nice as ACDSee on the Mac. I've looked forever.

The RAW converter software absolutely blows on Mac. I tried Capture One, Lightroom and Aperture. The term power user never occurred to any of them. Hate all of them. Bad performance and interface is very clumsy and inefficient. They need to read some books on HCI theory. Best I've seen is Capture One v3 on the PC. I swear, I'm going to spend the time learning Objective-C and Cocoa just so I can write photography software that is actually usable. I'd probably make a fortune.

Otherwise, for programming, the Mac absolutely rules. Which is weird because I've always heard PC's are for technical people and Macs are for creative professionals. Definitely not the case in my opinion.

Mr. E · 07-13-2008, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonstills

I use a Mac for my full time desktop and let me say MACS FUCKING SUCK FOR ANY GRAPHICS OR PHOTO WORK!!!

There's no software on the Mac that is equivalent to Downloader Pro from Breezesys. If you burn the images for a non-mac client your jpegs will be oriented wrong because a lot of PC software ignores the rotate flag in the header. I don't get why the camera doesn't just save them in different orientations instead of being lazy and just setting flag. It has to do the bayesian demosaicing anyways, not like there's any performance issues.

haha, really? I shoot just about everyday and give models a disc of images after the shoot. My pics come out turned the right way for all of them. You need a new camera or new program to burn your photos

brandonstills · 07-13-2008, 10:26 PM

Oh and I forgot another annoying issue. When I do photo work on the Mac I have to use one color profile while making my edits. But if I save for web from there the colors are fucked up. So I have to change to another profile before doing save for web. Saving works, but then I have to switch back if I actually want to edit it again. Fucking retarded!

brandonstills · 07-13-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. E

haha, really? I shoot just about everyday and give models a disc of images after the shoot. My pics come out turned the right way for all of them. You need a new camera or new program to burn your photos

What does burning software got to do with it? They just write files, they have no concept what's in the files. I have a Canon 1D Mark II. I don't think ANY camera will do what I'm talking about. I think you've just never heard any complaints. If your workflow is what you say it is, it WILL looked fucked up under a lot of software on the PC. Vista might be different though, dunno, haven't really used it.

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VikingMan Exploiting human weakness Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: next to a salmon stream Posts: 6,531	Do you edit photos on a Mac? Been on the PC for years without any problem. All of sudden I go out and buy a Mac, install photoshop and work away. What I notice is that any photo I work on inside of Photoshop or Nikon Capture (I would imagine any program does this on a mac) I get the skin to look perfect and then I save a jpg. When I open that same image up in safari or in image preview on a mac the skin looks over saturated or reddish. Does not matter what monitor I use. Any ideas?

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Deej I make pixels work Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I live here... Posts: 24,386	its very common when you switch over... ive heard red and blue hues... ive personally never experienced this since im strictly PC... Ive been thinking about geeting a mac as a spare JUST to see if im missing something or if im right... but i continually here about the hues coming out of mac editing... i find here on my pc... that when i edit photos in PS its perfect ( after i touche them up of course ;) ) but when i view it in my windows folder view it has the red hue... but online, same as PS... too many different chips n shit __________________ Deej's Designs n' What Not Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching Icq#30096880

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payd2purv Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,727	The way a MAC displays colors and the way a Non Apple Pc displays colors are different you are going to have to get caught up on Color Profiles and Proof Colors .... and find a comfortable middle ground.. Also are these pictures going to end up in print or the web? This is the major problem with the web no two people will ever see your image the exact same.. __________________ Last edited by payd2purv; 07-11-2008 at 03:19 PM..

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payd2purv Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,727	Wow I just had verbal diarhea up there.. Oh also.. I have a lot less problems designing and saving for web on a Non Apple Pc... It seems whatever i save on a Non Apple box looks great on any computer Mac or Non Mac.. shrug Colors is something that has bothered me for a long time... __________________

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BiggleJones Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Downtown LA Posts: 2,276	Yea...its a profile issue...not OS platform __________________ ICQ-291.596.343

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stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	Color profile issues.

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lumenus Amanda Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 52	Sorry i'm not more of a computer geek.

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faxxaff Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Marina Hemingway Posts: 2,134	Apple allows you to define profiles for various output sources. Go into System Preferences and choose Monitors, then click on Color and adjust your overall color settings for your monitor(s). It allows you a choice of profiles, let's you alter them and calibrate. However, if you work in photoshop, these settings will be overwritten by photoshops profile preferences. In PS go to -> EDIT -> COLOR SETTINGS. Most other image editing programs like Aperture will allow to make the same settings. Play around with it for 5 minutes and you will figure it out easily. __________________ Asian Babes Last edited by faxxaff; 07-11-2008 at 08:01 PM..

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peedy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Indiana Posts: 866	change your gamma to 2.2 which is the windows standard and then make sure your converting to sRGB color profiles

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JeffCliff Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 183	I own a MacBook Pro, and any time I have any crossover issues between platforms, I just load up windows on my paralells desktop on windows vista. That's one of the great things I love about my mac, if for some inane reason I can't do something on my mac I can always use the same computer to open up windows on it as well. __________________ Private Partners Network - Up to 50%; FULL range of products; Weekly payouts - always on time! PM me for more details!

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vidvicious Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 4,765	loving my mac I just installed photoshop and lightroom on my mac last night .. been up all night editing pics. the mac works beautifully with photoshop and lightroom ( i found my pc really lagged when running lightroom) you might have your images in CMYK .. I ve noticed the same thing in the past when editing pics in CMYK and saving them for the processed for the web.. go with SRGB __________________ 3D-VR live webcams Facebook profile "I take pics for the "Casual Encounters" section of Craigslist." Last edited by vidvicious; 07-13-2008 at 09:56 PM..

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Mr. E Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 453	Never had that happen, you shooting RAW or JPEG? If you are shooting JPEG, you will notice ALOT of unpleasant things when you edit on an HD Mac monitor you may not have noticed on a PC. Hopefully you are shooting and editing RAW. My pics will turn an orange hue when I resize using Sizerox and it sucks.

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brandonstills Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chatsworth, CA Posts: 1,964	I use a Mac for my full time desktop and let me say MACS FUCKING SUCK FOR ANY GRAPHICS OR PHOTO WORK!!! There's no software on the Mac that is equivalent to Downloader Pro from Breezesys. If you burn the images for a non-mac client your jpegs will be oriented wrong because a lot of PC software ignores the rotate flag in the header. I don't get why the camera doesn't just save them in different orientations instead of being lazy and just setting flag. It has to do the bayesian demosaicing anyways, not like there's any performance issues. I have a Dell 30" and any photo software that uses color profiles fucks everything up. What I see on the screen is not what it actually looks like. What's the point of a monitor color profile if you're just going to fuck it up. Ironically, any app that doesn't do color management works perfectly. Unfortunately, there aren't any RAW converters on the Mac that ignore color profiles. I've spent 80 hours over the course of a month trying to get a workflow that works on the Mac. Have yet to find anything. If I view an image with an embedded sRGB profile in Preview it loooks fucked up. If I strip out the profile it looks fine. Funny thing is, stripped out profiles are supposed to be sRGB anyways. WTF Apple?!?!?!? I'm not going to pay $1700 for a Cinema display when I can get a superior display for $1200. Photoshop completely sucks too. PC version is way better. Going through images is really slow. Fastest I've seen is Bridge but it has major performance issues and distorts the images. There's nothing as nice as ACDSee on the Mac. I've looked forever. The RAW converter software absolutely blows on Mac. I tried Capture One, Lightroom and Aperture. The term power user never occurred to any of them. Hate all of them. Bad performance and interface is very clumsy and inefficient. They need to read some books on HCI theory. Best I've seen is Capture One v3 on the PC. I swear, I'm going to spend the time learning Objective-C and Cocoa just so I can write photography software that is actually usable. I'd probably make a fortune. Otherwise, for programming, the Mac absolutely rules. Which is weird because I've always heard PC's are for technical people and Macs are for creative professionals. Definitely not the case in my opinion. __________________ Brandon Stills Industry and programming veteran [email protected] \| skype: brandonstills \| ICQ #495-171-318

07-13-2008, 10:26 PM	#22
brandonstills Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chatsworth, CA Posts: 1,964	Oh and I forgot another annoying issue. When I do photo work on the Mac I have to use one color profile while making my edits. But if I save for web from there the colors are fucked up. So I have to change to another profile before doing save for web. Saving works, but then I have to switch back if I actually want to edit it again. Fucking retarded! __________________ Brandon Stills Industry and programming veteran [email protected] \| skype: brandonstills \| ICQ #495-171-318