HornyMatches and Pimpmansion - Are you guys REALLY trying to be AFF? - GoFuckYourself.com

Babaganoosh · 07-09-2008, 09:05 AM

Just got this email. Surely this isn't actually one of your employees asking for a link exchange.

For those of you too lazy to read the entire email that I got, here's the important part.

Quote:

Last thing is we would like our link to look like this:

Adult Friend Finder [Title]
Adult Friend Finder [Description]
http://www.hornymatches.com [website address]

Here's the entire text of the email:

Quote:

Alexander Brown
Email [email protected]
Website http://
- Show quoted text -
Message Link exchange request ****************

Hello,

We represent the adult dating sites SexDatePersonals.com and HornyMatches.com.

We took a look at your site recently and we are interested in a link exchange.

If your site was made by a design company, web designer or similar,

and you have a doubt regarding how to publish our link, they can lend you a hand.

On your home page a link to "Friend's Sites " section keeps a list of your contacts,
maybe you have a place there for our link

Our offer is actually quite interesting, a 3 way link as opposed to a reciprocal link.

You link to HornyMatches.com and we link to you on SexDatePersonals.com.

We offer the best type of link exchange actually exist and urge you to not pass this opportunity up.

Also, SexDatePersonals has a very nice directory that we have been building so you have a nice chance

to find a good category there for your site. If not, please just make your suggestion to us.

Last thing is we would like our link to look like this:

Adult Friend Finder [Title]
Adult Friend Finder [Description]
http://www.hornymatches.com [website address]

- or -

add this on your web page: Adult Friend Finder

Have a great day and we look forward to doing business with you in the very near future,

Alexander Brown
HornyMatches.com
Sexdatepersonals.com

PR_Sebas · 07-09-2008, 09:13 AM

doubt its them... fucked up if it is though...

Babaganoosh · 07-09-2008, 09:56 AM

The IP of the sender was 190.10.4.61. I'm sure anyone who has had any correspondence with these guys can tell if it was really one of them that sent this email or not.

I have a hard time believing anyone could be so stupid but nothing surprises me anymore.

Blazed · 07-09-2008, 10:30 AM

It sounds like they employed this guy to help with seo and get links, i dont see whats wrong with targetting the phrase "adult friend finder" its a very popular search term now whats wrong with it?

In fact if you google adult friend finder youll see hornymatches in the top 10 so looks like its working.

st0ned · 07-09-2008, 10:32 AM

Haha I have received the same email numerous times, always wanting me to put "AdultFriendFinder.com" as the link title. Pretty shady indeed. I could expect something like that from an individual, but not from a company.

Babaganoosh · 07-09-2008, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazed

i dont see whats wrong with targetting the phrase "adult friend finder" its a very popular search term now whats wrong with it?

Adult Friend Finder is a registered trademark. Using that trademark to promote a site in direct competition with AFF is a big problem. I'd expect a C&D from AFF over this.

Blazed · 07-09-2008, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Adult Friend Finder is a registered trademark. Using that trademark to promote a site in direct competition with AFF is a big problem. I'd expect a C&D from AFF over this.

Hah you are crazy, you seriously think they will get sued over their anchor links? You can target WHICHEVER the fuck keyphrase you want in the search engines. Your not getting sued over how other sites link to you.

Babaganoosh · 07-09-2008, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazed

Hah you are crazy, you seriously think they will get sued over their anchor links? You can target WHICHEVER the fuck keyphrase you want in the search engines. Your not getting sued over how other sites link to you.

I hope you have an attorney. You suck at law.

Blazed · 07-09-2008, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

I hope you have an attorney. You suck at law.

Great comment sounds like you have no argument, please show some examples of people losing lawsuits because of the anchor text other websites use to link to them thanks.

Babaganoosh · 07-09-2008, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazed

Great comment sounds like you have no argument, please show some examples of people losing lawsuits because of the anchor text other websites use to link to them thanks.

Thanks for the offer but I am not using my time to give you legal advice. I'll keep you in mind in case I have any openings for charity cases in the future.

WiredGuy · 07-09-2008, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazed

Great comment sounds like you have no argument, please show some examples of people losing lawsuits because of the anchor text other websites use to link to them thanks.

Go lookup dilusion of trademarks. A competitor using a registered trademark for a similiar product or service has tons of precedence. This is so clear cut that it would be a waste of time to go to court over it.
WG

paymeback · 07-09-2008, 12:42 PM

They must be trying to be more like AFF, they have advertising on some of the biggest torrent sites

anarchy · 07-09-2008, 02:08 PM

Pimpmansion/hornymatches is the second biggest adult dating site out there. Its also the most underpromoted by affiliates here, although it does better than anything else.
The question to ask would be: is it legal to promote your site using search terms everyone is using? Well, I see many pay per click ads in google when you type in aff/sexsearch/fling/... are those legal? When I type in sexsearch I see a paid advertisment for adultfriendfinder. So is this a case of one blaming the other for something they are doing themselves? Hornymatches ranks very high for all major terms, they are first for 'adult dating' etc.

eMonk · 07-09-2008, 02:28 PM

hornymatches.com reps are tricking a lot of people using online dating sites where men are looking for woman pretending to be some chick looking but end up signing up to their program for their phone number & more pics of themselves - so lame.

Blazed · 07-09-2008, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anarchy

Pimpmansion/hornymatches is the second biggest adult dating site out there. Its also the most underpromoted by affiliates here, although it does better than anything else.
The question to ask would be: is it legal to promote your site using search terms everyone is using? Well, I see many pay per click ads in google when you type in aff/sexsearch/fling/... are those legal? When I type in sexsearch I see a paid advertisment for adultfriendfinder. So is this a case of one blaming the other for something they are doing themselves? Hornymatches ranks very high for all major terms, they are first for 'adult dating' etc.

Yup type in adult friend finder or any big porn company and look at the sponsored listings, tons of companies directly bidding on their name. Surely that is worse than people linking to your site with another company as the anchor text.

Wiredguy, so if i own site a, and link to my other site b with "adult friend finder" as the anchor text, you are saying i could be sued?

olivier69 · 07-11-2008, 09:52 PM

Hey Guys, thanks for bringing this to our attention. I will contact the SEO team responsible for making this decision and put a stop to it ASAP. After internally discussing this matter we have concluded that regardless of the legality, we agree it's ethically irresponsible. Please accept our apologies and assurances that this will not occur again in the future.

07-09-2008, 09:13 AM	#2
PR_Sebas Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,825	doubt its them... fucked up if it is though... __________________

07-09-2008, 09:56 AM	#3
Babaganoosh ♥♥♥ Likes Hugs ♥♥♥ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: /home Posts: 15,841	The IP of the sender was 190.10.4.61. I'm sure anyone who has had any correspondence with these guys can tell if it was really one of them that sent this email or not. I have a hard time believing anyone could be so stupid but nothing surprises me anymore. __________________ I like pie.

07-09-2008, 10:30 AM	#4
Blazed Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: London Posts: 1,701	It sounds like they employed this guy to help with seo and get links, i dont see whats wrong with targetting the phrase "adult friend finder" its a very popular search term now whats wrong with it? In fact if you google adult friend finder youll see hornymatches in the top 10 so looks like its working. __________________ ☻

07-09-2008, 10:32 AM	#5
st0ned Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 8,437	Haha I have received the same email numerous times, always wanting me to put "AdultFriendFinder.com" as the link title. Pretty shady indeed. I could expect something like that from an individual, but not from a company. __________________ Conversion Sharks - 1,000+ adult dating offers, traffic management, and consistently high payouts. We will guarantee and beat your current EPC to win your dating traffic! Skype: ConversionSharks \|\| Email: info /@/ conversionsharks.com

07-09-2008, 12:42 PM	#12
paymeback Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,478	They must be trying to be more like AFF, they have advertising on some of the biggest torrent sites __________________ ICQ:36-43-49-11

07-09-2008, 02:08 PM	#13
anarchy Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Anarcho-capitalist libertarian Posts: 378	Pimpmansion/hornymatches is the second biggest adult dating site out there. Its also the most underpromoted by affiliates here, although it does better than anything else. The question to ask would be: is it legal to promote your site using search terms everyone is using? Well, I see many pay per click ads in google when you type in aff/sexsearch/fling/... are those legal? When I type in sexsearch I see a paid advertisment for adultfriendfinder. So is this a case of one blaming the other for something they are doing themselves? Hornymatches ranks very high for all major terms, they are first for 'adult dating' etc. __________________ http://www.lewrockwell.com

07-09-2008, 02:28 PM	#14
eMonk Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,310	hornymatches.com reps are tricking a lot of people using online dating sites where men are looking for woman pretending to be some chick looking but end up signing up to their program for their phone number & more pics of themselves - so lame. Last edited by eMonk; 07-09-2008 at 02:29 PM..

07-11-2008, 09:52 PM	#16
olivier69 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: antarctica Posts: 52	Hey Guys, thanks for bringing this to our attention. I will contact the SEO team responsible for making this decision and put a stop to it ASAP. After internally discussing this matter we have concluded that regardless of the legality, we agree it's ethically irresponsible. Please accept our apologies and assurances that this will not occur again in the future.