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View Poll Results: If Iran Is Attacked By USA or Israel, What Are The Chances Of World War III?
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Old 07-13-2008, 03:25 PM   #51
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Right, you mean just like the US is doing in Iraq. Ok.
Did you sleep through Dessert Storm or were you too young to remember it? We kicked Iraq's ass in DS1 and we kicked their Army's ass in the current Gulf War. The reason we are having problems there now, is because Bush and co are morons and are making our Army do something it's not equipped to do.

Military is likely unmatched when it comes to actual war. However much like every army in the world, ours isn't meant to be a police force. Thats why we are failing in Iraq and Afghan, simply because they are trying to use an attack force as a police force to keep peace.
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The world has tolerated one unjust invasion already. They won't do it again.
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All depends on what your idea of World War is.
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Have any of you idiots ever heard of the Iran/Iraq war? The worst fought war in the hitory of the world that dragged on for 8 years and Iran's military has not improved much since then. Even a depleted US could destroy Iran in not time at all and Israel just as quickly if they choose to.
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The very same people who are preaching about how easy it would be for the US to whip Iran's ass, are the same people who would be crying because of lost comrades, high oil prices, high food prices, a weak dollar and an economy that is well and truly dead.

Wake up people....... you do NOT need another war. Your country is at its feet economically and things are going downhill fast whether you attack Iran or not... but if you do, the US will NOT recover from this. Remind yourselves, take a look at the current account (the stats are published by the CIA - a US agency):

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2187rank.html
Another war will financially ruin this country.
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Old 07-13-2008, 06:32 PM   #59
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maybe its time to move to a safe place like Australia...
lol! I'm in Aus, and the subtle mindfucking of "can't do this, can't do that" can be a bit much. It feels like Democracy = Dictatorship sometimes.

But like you said, it is a lot safer...especially now that the Australian government gave a $1Billion dollar donation to the Indonesian Sunami relief. How else is our government going to appease 200 million muslims - who until recently loved bombing us Aussies.

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I really love democracy peace spreading countries , such as the USA ... and their representatives here ....
Hmm...Iran threatens to 'wipe Israel off the map' - and U.S. is the bad guy here for approving Israel's attack on Iran's nuclear program?
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Have any of you idiots ever heard of the Iran/Iraq war? The worst fought war in the hitory of the world that dragged on for 8 years and Iran's military has not improved much since then. Even a depleted US could destroy Iran in not time at all and Israel just as quickly if they choose to.
It has improved but Israel would stll crush it in an air strike, i just don't see them destroying EVERY weapon that Iran has, because all it would take is some rockets landing on tel aviv and it's over. Know what I mean? I don't think it's worth it at all...
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Hmm...Iran threatens to 'wipe Israel off the map' - and U.S. is the bad guy here for approving Israel's attack on Iran's nuclear program?
Let's be real about this, everyone knows they have nothing to back it up with. So whats the point besides $15 a gallon gas?
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Hmm...Iran threatens to 'wipe Israel off the map' - and U.S. is the bad guy here for approving Israel's attack on Iran's nuclear program?
The USA threatens daily various countries .... and actually do aggress countries ... Iran hasn't done anything aside from blabbing ....

And Iran doesn't try to wrap itself in the blanket of purety as the USA tries to ...

Did you ever think that they could have fired those missiles to US irak bases ?
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If Iran didnt "posture" since thast the buzz word in politics right now... about their military capabilities and idle threats, it wouldnt matter.

Israel may be small but they would destroy whatever Iran has. Dont act as if they havent been in there for years and have what they need mapped out. A few days bombarding Iran and their military outlets and nuclear facilities, a few missles that will probably miss Israel and hit someone else (Causing Iran more problems) since their new missile isnt even 100% out of development and it would be over.

All of this by Iran right now is to not look weak as Israel tests out their awesome aircraft while Iran needs to photoshop pictures of their missile tests.

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The USA threatens daily various countries .... and actually do aggress countries ... Iran hasn't done anything aside from blabbing ....
Did you sleep through the Iran/Iraq war?

If Iran is only "blabbing" - what do you call their testing of medium-range missiles?

A hiccup?
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When Iran had the war with Iraq, it was very different then, because at the time, Iraq was a Military superpower, they had the 5th biggest military in the world and it was still growing, plus they were building nuclear weapons (allegedly).

Vietnam was a failure.

Iraq and Afghanistan have both been failures, USA and UK troops are still dying there, almost by the day.

Iran will be a much worse failure, they are more technologically advanced than you think.
Iraq and Afghanistan is far from being a failure.... I love it when people call it a "war". It's not a war. A war when the armies of two governments fight each other. Seems to me that the governments we were once fighting are no longer in power. Now it's an occupation. What you have right now is terrorists attacking US troops.

I don't understand all of this talk about the US leaving. We went to war with these countries; We own them. We are still in Germany, Japan, and Korea. Pulling out of Iraq is the worst thing we can do; The moment we leave these terrorists will turn their attention fully on the new government of Iraq which will crumble, and then they'll focus their attention back on us - On the US mainland.

As for Iran.... Whatever. It will be another joke, the "mother of all battles" just like in Iraq. We have missiles we can launch from the US that hit Iran; We have planes they can't see and aircraft carriers off their coast. The president of Iran has less support than President Bush does. It will be more of what happened in Iraq; Their army will flee into the darkness and hide like cowards. And the missiles they just launched..... They have some decent range, but they aren't exactly accurate.
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The world has tolerated one unjust invasion already. They won't do it again.
And what exactly would the "world" do? Pass a harshly worded UN resolution?
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Did you sleep through the Iran/Iraq war?

If Iran is only "blabbing" - what do you call their testing of medium-range missiles?

A hiccup?
Are you serious ?????

Iran/Iraq war was a proxy war done by Iraq for the USA ....

As for missiles, what is the problem ???? Israel has none ? Israel doesn't do test, such as dry run for simulated bombings... Israel never attacked any countries, so they have no reason to be defensive ?

Saddam destroyed his Scuid ( in accordance with the UN inspection process ): look where it got him .. at the end of a rope ..

Now look at North Korea now .. They showed muscle, now they are getting retribution ...

Iran never attacked any countries .... but got their democracy san=botaged bu the USA to put their Shah PUPPET ....
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Iraq and Afghanistan is far from being a failure.... I love it when people call it a "war". It's not a war. A war when the armies of two governments fight each other. Seems to me that the governments we were once fighting are no longer in power. Now it's an occupation. What you have right now is terrorists attacking US troops.

I don't understand all of this talk about the US leaving. We went to war with these countries; We own them. We are still in Germany, Japan, and Korea. Pulling out of Iraq is the worst thing we can do; The moment we leave these terrorists will turn their attention fully on the new government of Iraq which will crumble, and then they'll focus their attention back on us - On the US mainland.

As for Iran.... Whatever. It will be another joke, the "mother of all battles" just like in Iraq. We have missiles we can launch from the US that hit Iran; We have planes they can't see and aircraft carriers off their coast. The president of Iran has less support than President Bush does. It will be more of what happened in Iraq; Their army will flee into the darkness and hide like cowards. And the missiles they just launched..... They have some decent range, but they aren't exactly accurate.
You cant compare those our countries to iraq. Once the war was over it was, in iraq every other day we hear about some of our guys dying. Also I love the thinking lets totally fuck up the iraqi peoples country so the terrorists dont come here and then we wonder why they hate us. lol
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And what exactly would the "world" do? Pass a harshly worded UN resolution?
Actually China and Russia said they didnt think it would be a good move. China owns a large piece of our debt.
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What you have right now is terrorists attacking US troops.
Funny how you guys supported , armed and financed terrorists against the liberating Soviet forces in Afghanistan ...
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The Nato-led effort to subdue the Taliban suffered one of its heaviest blows since the 2001 invasion yesterday when nine US soldiers were killed and 15 other Nato troops injured in a day-long battle in a region close to the Pakistan border.

The US troops died as their base came under attack in Kunar province, eastern Afghanistan. The news puts further pressure on Pakistan, where coalition forces believe many Taliban militants are based. It was among the biggest losses for the coalition since the start of the war.
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Actually China and Russia said they didnt think it would be a good move. China owns a large piece of our debt.
China's economy is very dependent on exports to the US. They are not going to destroy their own economy to help Iran.

Russia has almost no conventional military capabilities at all. They could easily be defeated by the Turkish or French military. Even their best, most battle ready divisions are not nearly up to Western standards. They will stick to picking on the Georgians.
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this is a useless poll. very low chance. sunnis don't like shitte countries. therefore, sunni nations like saudis, pakis and others are not a fan of iran to rally behind them.
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Are you serious ?????

Iran/Iraq war was a proxy war done by Iraq for the USA ....

As for missiles, what is the problem ???? Israel has none ? Israel doesn't do test, such as dry run for simulated bombings... Israel never attacked any countries, so they have no reason to be defensive ?

Saddam destroyed his Scuid ( in accordance with the UN inspection process ): look where it got him .. at the end of a rope ..

Now look at North Korea now .. They showed muscle, now they are getting retribution ...

Iran never attacked any countries .... but got their democracy san=botaged bu the USA to put their Shah PUPPET ....
He destroyed his scuid missles? Hmm interesting since I seem to recall them shooting some at us when we were attacking Iraq this time..
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He destroyed his scuid missles? Hmm interesting since I seem to recall them shooting some at us when we were attacking Iraq this time..
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He destroyed his scuid missles? Hmm interesting since I seem to recall them shooting some at us when we were attacking Iraq this time..
how about a link to those vicious unfounded scud attacks by the iraqis... maybe FauxNoise ....

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UN inspectors supervised the destruction of four al-Samoud 2 rockets - just hours before the deadline for scrapping the illegal arms passed.

The Iraqi president was ordered to destroy the missiles by UN chief weapons inspector Hand Blix last week. He told Saddam disarmament had to begin by yesterday.

The demand came after it emerged the al-Samoud, which is based on the design of the Russian Scud, can carry chemical and biological warheads more than 90 miles - the maximum range imposed after the 1991 Gulf War.

But yesterday's concession by Saddam was immediately dismissed by Britain's Tony Blair as "nowhere near enough". The Prime Minister said: "This falls a mile short of what he has to do, which is full disarmament. Where, for example are the thousands of tonnes of nerve gas agents which are unaccounted for?"

The move was hailed by chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix as a "significant piece of real disarmament." But Foreign Secretary Jack Straw attacked it as a "cynical trick".

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer went further. "The Iraqi actions are propaganda wrapped in a lie inside a falsehood," he said.

The first wave of missile scrapping came as the Turkish parliament backed the use of their land by US troops to launch attacks in Iraq.

But, as the Pope announced he was sending an envoy to Washington in a bid to avert war,
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the rest of the world laughs as the US drains it's $$$ fighting these battles- just as the US did aa the soviets blew their load fighting afghanistan - so sad ...
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Funny how you guys supported , armed and financed terrorists against the liberating Soviet forces in Afghanistan ...
The US supplied stinger AA missiles were a deciding factor against Russia's attack choppers, which were mopping up the Afghanis.

Isn't this about the time bin laden became very friendly with the US gov?

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I doubt that it would be a world war but I guess anything is possible.
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the only thing i'm afraid of is more 9/11 from other muslim groups as a response
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directfiesta is on fire, long live Fidel !!!
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the only thing i'm afraid of is more 9/11 from other muslim groups as a response
Yes, especially another fanatical muslim group which has received support and weapons from the US Gov.
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If you say so ...
Well, let's take a better look at this incident, shall we?

"The Taliban have largely shied away from large-scale attacks on foreign forces since suffering severe casualties in assaults on NATO bases in the south in 2006. Instead the militants have scaled up hit-and-run attacks and suicide and roadside bombs."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080714/ts_nm/afghan_violence_dc;_ylt=AsK4j18iX0BMqj4nJc9Nl8h34T 0D

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Iraq and Afghanistan is far from being a failure.... I love it when people call it a "war". It's not a war. A war when the armies of two governments fight each other. Seems to me that the governments we were once fighting are no longer in power. Now it's an occupation. What you have right now is terrorists attacking US troops.

I don't understand all of this talk about the US leaving. We went to war with these countries; We own them. We are still in Germany, Japan, and Korea. Pulling out of Iraq is the worst thing we can do; The moment we leave these terrorists will turn their attention fully on the new government of Iraq which will crumble, and then they'll focus their attention back on us - On the US mainland.

As for Iran.... Whatever. It will be another joke, the "mother of all battles" just like in Iraq. We have missiles we can launch from the US that hit Iran; We have planes they can't see and aircraft carriers off their coast. The president of Iran has less support than President Bush does. It will be more of what happened in Iraq; Their army will flee into the darkness and hide like cowards. And the missiles they just launched..... They have some decent range, but they aren't exactly accurate.
It would of been comical to see your response prior to the Iraq war. "US WILL RUN OVER SADDAM'S MILITARY AND OWN THE COUNTRY". Sadly it doesn't really work like that....
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If they go after Iran, it will be the largest invasion that has been seen in a LONG time. They could not risk losing the oil fields, and would want them fast.
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Wrong again. Think of it like this. If Saudi Arabia bombed the USA tomorrow, even with peoples dissatisfaction with Bush, what do you think the likely result would be? Would people rise up and overthrow the Government by force because a foreign (both in culture, religion and geography) enemy bombed them? Don't kid yourself. Zionists like yourself may try to deceive Americans of the reality of the situation, or perhaps you have been deceived yourself, but the reaction will be similar to that to Western support of a pro-Western Shah in Iran - the continued Islamization of the public. You're right that Iran has a large base of pro-Western youth, but bombing their nation will do nothing to strengthen their position, and almost inevitably will lead to the direct opposite. Remember when they said America would be welcomed as liberators?

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um, from my conversations with a lot of iranians, they seem to want to get rid of the government
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WWIII started back in July, 2006
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/16/newt-world-war/

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I'm looking for the other one where George Bush also said we're entering WWIII also back in 2006

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K, guess it was earlier than July..

Here's article from May 2006 "Bush calls terror fight WWIII"
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...-38198,00.html
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The USA threatens daily various countries .... and actually do aggress countries ... Iran hasn't done anything aside from blabbing ....

And Iran doesn't try to wrap itself in the blanket of purety as the USA tries to ...

Did you ever think that they could have fired those missiles to US irak bases ?
You do understand Iran is helping and supporting the insurgents in Iraq don't you? Granted I'm not a fan of Bush or the war but it have been 100% proven than Iran is supplying insurgents with weapons and possiably even training.
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It would of been comical to see your response prior to the Iraq war. "US WILL RUN OVER SADDAM'S MILITARY AND OWN THE COUNTRY". Sadly it doesn't really work like that....
We did run over Saddams army we just had dipshits in charge that never planed on the running of the country once we took it over.
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You do understand Iran is helping and supporting the insurgents in Iraq don't you? Granted I'm not a fan of Bush or the war but it have been 100% proven than Iran is supplying insurgents with weapons and possiably even training.
And so does Saudi Arabia. Look at the harsh treatment we give them.

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You do understand Iran is helping and supporting the insurgents in Iraq don't you? Granted I'm not a fan of Bush or the war but it have been 100% proven than Iran is supplying insurgents with weapons and possiably even training.
You remember that you did the same in Afghanistan against the liberation soviet forces ....
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