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Old 06-22-2009, 10:43 AM   #1
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:stop So now Boneprone is usinf stolen content on his sites? WTF?

http://www.socalmovies.com/

Who cares that you are scraping the tubes. Full length movies? Tsk tsk.
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Old 06-22-2009, 10:47 AM   #2
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Old 06-22-2009, 12:07 PM   #3
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Old 06-22-2009, 12:20 PM   #5
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i am cooking a chicken burger right now.
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that's what happens when you let the anal hobbit take over content management for your site.
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Old 06-22-2009, 12:37 PM   #11
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Old 06-22-2009, 12:52 PM   #12
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He is always saying "I fucked it" and you never saw that one coming?? :P!
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Old 06-22-2009, 12:58 PM   #13
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or better yet don't hate anyone embrace the game
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Sadly he links to the sites the video is on instead of embeding it...
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Old 06-22-2009, 02:41 PM   #17
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Sadly he links to the sites the video is on instead of embeding it...
I thought you were joking at first. Why lose all that traffic?
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I thought you were joking at first. Why lose all that traffic?
To save some face?
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Who cares that you are scraping the tubes. Full length movies? Tsk tsk.
We list all TUBE videos from these popular sites

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i checked that site out..
its kind of a "bastard" tube..
as its skims some clicks off to trades rather than to the vids...
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So if a person makes a real legal tube site, will they be mocked for doing the right thing as well. Since, all the cool kids are doing it, will that mean the right way is the 'Nerd' thing to do?
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So if a person makes a real legal tube site, will they be mocked for doing the right thing as well. Since, all the cool kids are doing it, will that mean the right way is the 'Nerd' thing to do?
No matter what kind of tube you make, you'll get hated on...

Make a legal tube, they say you're just half assing it using sponsor content and won't gain any traction or get any significant traffic.

Make an illegal tube, and get blasted for having full length stolen content.
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I see my videos on this site that I do not believe ive given rights to this. Umm i expect owner of this site to contact me asap
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I see my videos on this site that I do not believe ive given rights to this. Umm i expect owner of this site to contact me asap
They use a thumbnail and link to the site the video is actually on. I know your content is all over tube sites, no idea if they licensed or not...
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All Links are of models over the age of 18, and are provided to us for promotional use only by indvidual creators and owners of the indvudual sites.
Only with their authorization we have been allowed to use images from their promotional areas to Present here.
We do not own or produce any images presented within this website. For any inquires reguarding content please contact the indvidual site being promoted.


I am the individual creator of alot of these videos and I did not give these you you. I also did not give anyone permission to give away full videos to anyone. Ill expect an ICQ to discuss compensation at your convenience but soon.
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They use a thumbnail and link to the site the video is actually on. I know your content is all over tube sites, no idea if they licensed or not...

Am i out of line here, thumbnail or 2 hours of video, content is not licensed to this site.
If im wrong, I apologize here.
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i checked that site out..
its kind of a "bastard" tube..
as its skims some clicks off to trades rather than to the vids...
All the old CJ sites look like tubes now.
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Am i out of line here, thumbnail or 2 hours of video, content is not licensed to this site.
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I guess you didn't fully understand tube sites before you started selling your content to them?
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Am i out of line here, thumbnail or 2 hours of video, content is not licensed to this site.
If im wrong, I apologize here.
I was just pointing out that the videos aren't on his site. Whether or not the sites he scraped to get them licensed your vids, only you would know. As for the thumbnail, it might be hard to win that one as fair use would seem a pretty valid claim on a tiny thumb. This is especially true when bing is letting people preview the entire videos.
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I dont host or have the actual movies on my site other than fhgs or movies given to me by owners.. I simply link to tubesite pages or use their embed feature.

If you see some content on the site of yours being linked to let me know. I would be more than happy in removing it from my site and helping you determine where it came from.

If you sell content to tubesites then really there is nothing more I can do on my end but remove the link to them.
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Using a thumbnail from another tube is known as plugs to generate traffic. You send them traffic by using a thumbnail from their site and link it to the vid, they do the same back, Its the way tubes work.
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Using a thumbnail from another tube is known as plugs to generate traffic. You send them traffic by using a thumbnail from their site and link it to the vid, they do the same back, Its the way tubes work.

Yes. However if he owns the video then he also owns the rights to the image and the thumb.
(Thus I am willing to work with him and willing to remove the thumb and even the link if he likes. Yes I dont really have to remove the link to the other tubesite but I will without issue if he requests it.

I have respect for his work and his place in this community. Lets not attack him for trying to protect his work.
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Using a thumbnail from another tube is known as plugs to generate traffic. You send them traffic by using a thumbnail from their site and link it to the vid, they do the same back, Its the way tubes work.
You're confused my friend, that's how dumps work. Tubes rely on everyone embeding their videos sending them traffic.
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I think you two are arguing the same point really.

Either way AMA feel free to contact me. Let me know what video, I can give you all the info you need plus removal from my site.
If its an embed then I can kill the page. If its a direct link to the other persons website I can give you their info and remove the link..

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No matter what kind of tube you make, you'll get hated on...

Make a legal tube, they say you're just half assing it using sponsor content and won't gain any traction or get any significant traffic.

Make an illegal tube, and get blasted for having full length stolen content.
Yea damn the haters I mean it's the internets.. You have the right to steal anything you want and damn them if they hate on you.

You make a living writing code right? Would you hate on us if we stole all your code and put it on websites all over the net so for everyone else to D/L it for free?
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Yes. However if he owns the video then he also owns the rights to the image and the thumb.
(Thus I am willing to work with him and willing to remove the thumb and even the link if he likes. Yes I dont really have to remove the link to the other tubesite but I will without issue if he requests it.

I have respect for his work and his place in this community. Lets not attack him for trying to protect his work.
Right on. What I was trying to say is that it is imposible to know if the content on the other tube has been purchased or not when you link to it . I am in no way knocking Amacontent at all, and kudus to you for working with him.
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Yea damn the haters I mean it's the internets.. You have the right to steal anything you want and damn them if they hate on you.

You make a living writing code right? Would you hate on us if we stole all your code and put it on websites all over the net so for everyone else to D/L it for free?
Take off your warrior outfit and re read my post. I didn't say I approve of stolen content, I just said you're damned it you don't and damned if you do.

No matter what, the people here blast you for running any type of tube.
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Thnks for response BP, im a little wet behind the ears on marketing ploys but ill hit you up later when im done shooting. Im just tiredof finding my stuff all over the place free
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Lets not fool anyone here.

Everyone knows that there is almost no licencing on those sites and a really good chance that almost all those videos were stolen for the purpose of gaining traffic. All the free loaders out there visit and that gets these sites a good Alexa ranking so they can get good advertizing money.

That's no secret...

Come on here.. No one is uploading to these sites except the people who are running them.

The purpose of these sites that host the 12 minute movies to to get high Alexa rankings to sell ad space..

They are the biggest cheats in the world.. You should never link to these guys like xhamster and and the rest.
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Thnks for response BP, im a little wet behind the ears on marketing ploys but ill hit you up later when im done shooting. Im just tiredof finding my stuff all over the place free
It's not marketing ploys it's theft. Pure and simple. Why show any respect from somebody who steals from you?
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It's not marketing ploys it's theft. Pure and simple. Why show any respect from somebody who steals from you?
IM not stealing from him.
Im stealing from the people who steal from him. Unless that is he sells to them in which case I am not.

I can help him get in touch with and get his stuff removed better than most people if he WANTS and I can help him understand how its all taking place. More importantly so I can more than likely get his content sold for him if these people are indeed stealing it. (which i hope they are not doing)

Yeah the whole situation sucks but for those willing there is a lot of money in it as well. At the very least I can get his shit taken down for him or get him in contact with the proper people. My network of people in all aspects of the biz is still very deep.

If someone is stealing from him I can help him get it taken down, or if he chooses get stuff sold $$$.. No cut in my part.

I dont want to see his shit getting stolen anymore than the rest of you.
The tube guys can afford to buy his shit this day in age.
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Lets not fool anyone here.

Everyone knows that there is almost no licencing on those sites and a really good chance that almost all those videos were stolen for the purpose of gaining traffic. All the free loaders out there visit and that gets these sites a good Alexa ranking so they can get good advertizing money.

That's no secret...

Come on here.. No one is uploading to these sites except the people who are running them.

The purpose of these sites that host the 12 minute movies to to get high Alexa rankings to sell ad space..

They are the biggest cheats in the world.. You should never link to these guys like xhamster and and the rest.
If I find out xhamster is stealing content or unresponsive to removing anyone's content upon request I will indeed remove them from any traffic I send to them. Again, if anyone sees anything on my sites Ill do the best I can to assist you in getting it removed, getting in contact with the owners of the site, and if it comes to it blacklisting traffic sent to them if indeed they are unresponsive to your requests.
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Lets not fool anyone here.

Everyone knows that there is almost no licencing on those sites and a really good chance that almost all those videos were stolen for the purpose of gaining traffic. All the free loaders out there visit and that gets these sites a good Alexa ranking so they can get good advertizing money.

That's no secret...

Come on here.. No one is uploading to these sites except the people who are running them.

The purpose of these sites that host the 12 minute movies to to get high Alexa rankings to sell ad space..
One day they'll turn around, if not so already. It takes 2 to tango or content WILL dry up. The rest just copycats the new/old school sucess stories but forget about the laywers, accountants, fiscal advisors, notary and even business a whole in the end.
Many (not all) studios/producers started out the same way in this bizz many years ago
doing stuff that was not proper and some faded out and some even went IPO or got bought by other big companies. Same stuff for 22 years but just packaged differently IMO.
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