So now Boneprone is usinf stolen content on his sites? WTF? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

JFK · 06-23-2009, 01:54 PM

Fitty BP Sites

Keeping it Real · 06-23-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone

IM not stealing from him.
Im stealing from the people who steal from him.

Still a thief no matter which way you spin it.

the Shemp · 06-23-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin

All the old CJ sites look like tubes now.

i didnt know that, i havent been to a CJ site in many years ...

ThumbLord · 06-23-2009, 03:52 PM

well nice site(s) and very good script as well.
I like the "I am stealing from the people who steal" quote.

Snake Doctor · 06-23-2009, 04:16 PM

Boneprone is the original "bro", so he gets a pass.

FWIW, I haven't looked to see what content if ama's is on there, but he's had alot of blowout deals in the past, at a time when tubes didn't exist and therefore tubes were not excluded in the license agreement.....so it's not out of the question that the content was paid for and is being used in a proper manner.

They wouldn't be the first webmasters in history to not send content producers a list of domains they've purchased that they may or may not use previously purchased content on.

amacontent · 06-23-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Boneprone is the original "bro", so he gets a pass.

FWIW, I haven't looked to see what content if ama's is on there, but he's had alot of blowout deals in the past, at a time when tubes didn't exist and therefore tubes were not excluded in the license agreement.....so it's not out of the question that the content was paid for and is being used in a proper manner.

They wouldn't be the first webmasters in history to not send content producers a list of domains they've purchased that they may or may not use previously purchased content on.

100% wrong as license states content must be used behind a password protected area.

2- ACCEPTABLE USES OF LICENSED CONTENT:

Banners and Web Page Design: Banners with licensed material on them must be linked to a site owned by the licensee, and material used in web page design elements must be located on a website owned by the licensee.

Thumbnail Posts: Up to thirty (30) images may be used at one time in a thumbnail post URL, so long as the material remains hosted at the licensee's site. If the material is to be hosted at the Thumbnail post's URL, then up to fifteen (15) images may be used, providing that all images are clearly identified as being from the Licensee owned site, and a link to that site is provided.

Movie Posts: Up to twelve (12) videos and a maximum of 100 secondes may be used at one time in a movie post URL, so long as the material remains hosted at the licensee's site. If the material is to be hosted at the post URL, then up to three (3) videos and a maximum of 30 secondes may be used, providing that all images are clearly identified as being from the Licensee owned site, and a link to that site is provided.

All of the material contained on the Product may be used as "web content" on up to twenty (20) domains owned by the Licensee. Licensee may distribute the product only via internet website(s) which are intended for end user usage only. Product may not be placed on a website with the intent to resell the content's use to other webmasters. Product may not be used on any type of leased product made available to other webmasters.

"All elements not used for banner usage or webpage design are to be placed behind some form of membership only access system, such as an Adult Verification Service, or a paysite membership system."

Snake Doctor · 06-23-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent

100% wrong as license states content must be used behind a password protected area.

2- ACCEPTABLE USES OF LICENSED CONTENT:

Banners and Web Page Design: Banners with licensed material on them must be linked to a site owned by the licensee, and material used in web page design elements must be located on a website owned by the licensee.

Thumbnail Posts: Up to thirty (30) images may be used at one time in a thumbnail post URL, so long as the material remains hosted at the licensee's site. If the material is to be hosted at the Thumbnail post's URL, then up to fifteen (15) images may be used, providing that all images are clearly identified as being from the Licensee owned site, and a link to that site is provided.

Movie Posts: Up to twelve (12) videos and a maximum of 100 secondes may be used at one time in a movie post URL, so long as the material remains hosted at the licensee's site. If the material is to be hosted at the post URL, then up to three (3) videos and a maximum of 30 secondes may be used, providing that all images are clearly identified as being from the Licensee owned site, and a link to that site is provided.

All of the material contained on the Product may be used as "web content" on up to twenty (20) domains owned by the Licensee. Licensee may distribute the product only via internet website(s) which are intended for end user usage only. Product may not be placed on a website with the intent to resell the content's use to other webmasters. Product may not be used on any type of leased product made available to other webmasters.

"All elements not used for banner usage or webpage design are to be placed behind some form of membership only access system, such as an Adult Verification Service, or a paysite membership system."

Ok, well then that definitely takes away the embed rights, although that can be more the fault of the person doing the embedding rather than the person hosting the video.

As for "membership only access system", that could just mean that registered users who create a free account can access the vids. Theoretically speaking.

Choker · 06-23-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent

100% wrong as license states content must be used behind a password protected area.

2- ACCEPTABLE USES OF LICENSED CONTENT:

Banners and Web Page Design: Banners with licensed material on them must be linked to a site owned by the licensee, and material used in web page design elements must be located on a website owned by the licensee.

Thumbnail Posts: Up to thirty (30) images may be used at one time in a thumbnail post URL, so long as the material remains hosted at the licensee's site. If the material is to be hosted at the Thumbnail post's URL, then up to fifteen (15) images may be used, providing that all images are clearly identified as being from the Licensee owned site, and a link to that site is provided.

Movie Posts: Up to twelve (12) videos and a maximum of 100 secondes may be used at one time in a movie post URL, so long as the material remains hosted at the licensee's site. If the material is to be hosted at the post URL, then up to three (3) videos and a maximum of 30 secondes may be used, providing that all images are clearly identified as being from the Licensee owned site, and a link to that site is provided.

All of the material contained on the Product may be used as "web content" on up to twenty (20) domains owned by the Licensee. Licensee may distribute the product only via internet website(s) which are intended for end user usage only. Product may not be placed on a website with the intent to resell the content's use to other webmasters. Product may not be used on any type of leased product made available to other webmasters.

"All elements not used for banner usage or webpage design are to be placed behind some form of membership only access system, such as an Adult Verification Service, or a paysite membership system."

Bullfucking shit, You sold me and several people this content stating in ICQ logs that they are fine for tube sites. I think it's time I contact my attorney and get a lawsuit filed against you, you have yet to deliver me a signed license. I'm also gonna find all the guys you sold this content to KNOWING full well they were using it for tube sites and the proof is in the icq and email logs. You were fast to take peoples money on your content deals but where's the fucking license for tubes you promised? If I dont get a license signed by you and 2257 files within 7 days I'm gonna file a lawsuit. Think I'm bluffing? Watch.

boneprone · 06-23-2009, 06:09 PM

AMA,

Hmm. This is strange. Im talking to some large tubesite owners now and they say they bought your content for their tubes.. Maybe you didnt know it was tube use?

Either way Ill help point you in the right direction.

Hit me up in private so I can assist you.

papill0n · 06-23-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone

IM not stealing from him.
Im stealing from the people who steal from him. Unless that is he sells to them in which case I am not.

I can help him get in touch with and get his stuff removed better than most people if he WANTS and I can help him understand how its all taking place. More importantly so I can more than likely get his content sold for him if these people are indeed stealing it. (which i hope they are not doing)

Yeah the whole situation sucks but for those willing there is a lot of money in it as well. At the very least I can get his shit taken down for him or get him in contact with the proper people. My network of people in all aspects of the biz is still very deep.

If someone is stealing from him I can help him get it taken down, or if he chooses get stuff sold $$$.. No cut in my part.

I dont want to see his shit getting stolen anymore than the rest of you.
The tube guys can afford to buy his shit this day in age.

you fail at logic

Choker · 06-23-2009, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone

AMA,

Hmm. This is strange. Im talking to some large tubesite owners now and they say they bought your content for their tubes.. Maybe you didnt know it was tube use?

Either way Ill help point you in the right direction.

Hit me up in private so I can assist you.

Yeah he agrees to whatever a buyer wants on icq or email until he gets the payment from them, then he changes his mind? LOL, I don't fucking think so. 7 days Ama then i meet with my attorney and for damned sure I'm gonna find every buyer you sold this package to telling them they can use it on tube sites and add them into the lawsuit. I'm not even gonna go into how it took you over 6 months to deliver the content I paid you for.

amacontent · 06-23-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone

AMA,

Hmm. This is strange. Im talking to some large tubesite owners now and they say they bought your content for their tubes.. Maybe you didnt know it was tube use?

Either way Ill help point you in the right direction.

Hit me up in private so I can assist you.

You missed my whole point, with this initial post I thought this was someone elses tube site. I gave permission to some companies over last year they can use on thier own tube sites. I didnt realize it was only links promoting someone elses tube site and I questioned if that was still cool.

Keeping it Real · 06-23-2009, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone

AMA,

Hmm. This is strange. Im talking to some large tubesite owners now and they say they bought your content for their tubes.. Maybe you didnt know it was tube use?

Either way Ill help point you in the right direction.

Hit me up in private so I can assist you.

Seems to me that this entire mess could have been avoided if you bought the content from Ama for your own tube site instead of stealing it from others.

Anal Hobbit · 06-23-2009, 07:29 PM

Looks like a bunch of cans of a bunch of worms just opened up all over...

Anal Hobbit · 06-23-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Keeping it Real

Seems to me that this entire mess could have been avoided if you bought the content from Ama for your own tube site instead of stealing it from others.

Looks like the big picture just went above someone's head here.

Read deeper into it. If you can that is.

abyss_al · 06-23-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Paolo

Lets not fool anyone here.

Everyone knows that there is almost no licencing on those sites and a really good chance that almost all those videos were stolen for the purpose of gaining traffic. All the free loaders out there visit and that gets these sites a good Alexa ranking so they can get good advertizing money.

That's no secret...

Come on here.. No one is uploading to these sites except the people who are running them.

The purpose of these sites that host the 12 minute movies to to get high Alexa rankings to sell ad space..

They are the biggest cheats in the world.. You should never link to these guys like xhamster and and the rest.

you're actually way off

Young · 06-23-2009, 07:38 PM

hey bros...nothing to see here.

gideongallery · 06-23-2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Bullfucking shit, You sold me and several people this content stating in ICQ logs that they are fine for tube sites. I think it's time I contact my attorney and get a lawsuit filed against you, you have yet to deliver me a signed license. I'm also gonna find all the guys you sold this content to KNOWING full well they were using it for tube sites and the proof is in the icq and email logs. You were fast to take peoples money on your content deals but where's the fucking license for tubes you promised? If I dont get a license signed by you and 2257 files within 7 days I'm gonna file a lawsuit. Think I'm bluffing? Watch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone

AMA,

Hmm. This is strange. Im talking to some large tubesite owners now and they say they bought your content for their tubes.. Maybe you didnt know it was tube use?

Either way Ill help point you in the right direction.

Hit me up in private so I can assist you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker

Yeah he agrees to whatever a buyer wants on icq or email until he gets the payment from them, then he changes his mind? LOL, I don't fucking think so. 7 days Ama then i meet with my attorney and for damned sure I'm gonna find every buyer you sold this package to telling them they can use it on tube sites and add them into the lawsuit. I'm not even gonna go into how it took you over 6 months to deliver the content I paid you for.

see this is another reason why the DMCA needs a safe harbor provision. And why fair use has to be protected by the courts and congress.

Otherwise copyrightholders can simply retroactively rewrite their liciences to fuck over their customers.

Choker · 06-23-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

see this is another reason why the DMCA needs a safe harbor provision. And why fair use has to be protected by the courts and congress.

Otherwise copyrightholders can simply retroactively rewrite their liciences to fuck over their customers.

He agreed that i can use the content unrestricted on tube sites and i informed him that i would not allow other webmasters to imbed the videos. He said fine, and has refused to send me a license of any sort and refused to provide me 2257 docs. I think there is a clause in the 2257 laws that address this refusal? I'll know more tomorrow when I call my attorney. Bottom line is that Ama is not a man of his word, he is quick to take your money for his content but does not deliver the content for 6 months later, then refuses to provide 2257 and a license. Is this someone you want to do business with? Boneprone don't refer him business, i made the mistake of selling a couple packages for him he promised me a referal for it but never delivered. Again the man does not keep his word.

amacontent · 06-23-2009, 08:05 PM

Heres my point. I may be right, I may be wrong. Yes I gave a number of people to use the content on THIER tube sites. Sites that they owned. In this day and age I understand that. What I dont understand is how another site.. can put up links to those videos that the tube site owner bought from me. How I see it, the surfer or whoever clicks a thmb on that site..and the video plays. Whats the difference if its linked or not. Surfer still watches my video from a site that the owner did not pay for. But if im wrong I apologize to Choker and anyone else involved. But I will be talking to legal about this.

boneprone · 06-23-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent

Heres my point. I may be right, I may be wrong. Yes I gave a number of people to use the content on THIER tube sites. Sites that they owned. In this day and age I understand that. What I dont understand is how another site.. can put up links to those videos that the tube site owner bought from me. How I see it, the surfer or whoever clicks a thmb on that site..and the video plays. Whats the difference if its linked or not. Surfer still watches my video from a site that the owner did not pay for. But if im wrong I apologize to Choker and anyone else involved. But I will be talking to legal about this.

Understandable.
Embeds do seem a bit excessive I agree.....

Maybe limit your licence to not allow these guys to embed....

But getting them to limit people like myself from linking to their gallery or sending them traffic may be a bit more difficult.

amacontent · 06-23-2009, 08:23 PM

Heres what Im saying.. im saying if surferboy goes to a traffic site, that he can click a thumb, and watch the video..and jerk off.. whats the difference if the owner of that traffic site hosts the video clip or its linked. Surferboy is watching it on the traffic site.

Now some may say well its same concept of MGPS.. but in my eyes its not i dont think. MGPS my license limits to a small percentage of the video for promo use ( by the purchaser of the content ) not allowing the traffic guy to show whole video from his site.

Once again, I may be way off here, im open to all constructive thoughts on the matter, but my legal will give me best advice

gideongallery · 06-24-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent

100% wrong as license states content must be used behind a password protected area.

2- ACCEPTABLE USES OF LICENSED CONTENT:

Banners and Web Page Design: Banners with licensed material on them must be linked to a site owned by the licensee, and material used in web page design elements must be located on a website owned by the licensee.

Thumbnail Posts: Up to thirty (30) images may be used at one time in a thumbnail post URL, so long as the material remains hosted at the licensee's site. If the material is to be hosted at the Thumbnail post's URL, then up to fifteen (15) images may be used, providing that all images are clearly identified as being from the Licensee owned site, and a link to that site is provided.

Movie Posts: Up to twelve (12) videos and a maximum of 100 secondes may be used at one time in a movie post URL, so long as the material remains hosted at the licensee's site. If the material is to be hosted at the post URL, then up to three (3) videos and a maximum of 30 secondes may be used, providing that all images are clearly identified as being from the Licensee owned site, and a link to that site is provided.

All of the material contained on the Product may be used as "web content" on up to twenty (20) domains owned by the Licensee. Licensee may distribute the product only via internet website(s) which are intended for end user usage only. Product may not be placed on a website with the intent to resell the content's use to other webmasters. Product may not be used on any type of leased product made available to other webmasters.

"All elements not used for banner usage or webpage design are to be placed behind some form of membership only access system, such as an Adult Verification Service, or a paysite membership system."

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent

Heres what Im saying.. im saying if surferboy goes to a traffic site, that he can click a thumb, and watch the video..and jerk off.. whats the difference if the owner of that traffic site hosts the video clip or its linked. Surferboy is watching it on the traffic site.

Now some may say well its same concept of MGPS.. but in my eyes its not i dont think. MGPS my license limits to a small percentage of the video for promo use ( by the purchaser of the content ) not allowing the traffic guy to show whole video from his site.

Once again, I may be way off here, im open to all constructive thoughts on the matter, but my legal will give me best advice

you really need to talk to a good lawyer because that licience is basically authorizes giving your movies away on every torrent site available
as long as the tracker is a private tracker (requires a membership to login/download the content)

so basically i have a torrent domain
i buy your content
i put the content up on my tracker
make the torrent file (pointing to the private tracker) and post it on every single torrent search engine out there.

and that would meet the condition of your licience.

so if you DCMA'ed anyone licienced torrent you just admitted your liable for all their losses incurred by that action.

Snake Doctor · 06-24-2009, 08:16 PM

In addition to the blowout deals, I personally have a shitload of ama content that I bought from sobegirl.

At the time I didn't realize it was ama's stuff, I thought it was Sobe's....but still, I paid for it and have a license to use it. (because Sobe had a right to resell it...although the asshole later tried to charge for the 2257 documents that didn't originally come with the content)

I know those two had some sort of dispute and I don't know what ever came of it....but that would be some serious shit that would cost a ton of money to litigate if someone tried to make me take that content down.

Anyhoo, I guess my point is that anything that was licensed before tubes and embedding came about is going to be a problem, if the licensor doesn't like the way the content is being used.

amacontent · 06-24-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

In addition to the blowout deals, I personally have a shitload of ama content that I bought from sobegirl.

At the time I didn't realize it was ama's stuff, I thought it was Sobe's....but still, I paid for it and have a license to use it. (because Sobe had a right to resell it...although the asshole later tried to charge for the 2257 documents that didn't originally come with the content)

I know those two had some sort of dispute and I don't know what ever came of it....but that would be some serious shit that would cost a ton of money to litigate if someone tried to make me take that content down.

Anyhoo, I guess my point is that anything that was licensed before tubes and embedding came about is going to be a problem, if the licensor doesn't like the way the content is being used.

Once again SOBE never had resale rights to my content. Why do you think hes gone and im still here

amacontent · 06-24-2009, 09:30 PM

Just another point ive only given tube rights to 7 clients. So its a small field to deal with. As far as Im concerned, you cannot link my content to any tube site videos unless im paid a license fee for each video. And yes I will be speaking to a good internet lawyer about this. If my attorney says I have no case, well then it is what it is. I will however not be rocking anyones boat and will contact each case i find individually as I have with this one here and have a calm conversation with that person..

MasterBlow · 06-25-2009, 12:33 AM

Choker · 06-25-2009, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by amacontent

Just another point ive only given tube rights to 7 clients. So its a small field to deal with. As far as Im concerned, you cannot link my content to any tube site videos unless im paid a license fee for each video. And yes I will be speaking to a good internet lawyer about this. If my attorney says I have no case, well then it is what it is. I will however not be rocking anyones boat and will contact each case i find individually as I have with this one here and have a calm conversation with that person..

So your saying that if someone links to my movie pages with your videos on them they have to pay you a license fee? So basically the content I bought from you only I can link to? So I guess if google or yahoo lists these movie pages your gonna go after them? Or go after me because I knowingly allowed google to spider the movie page? If this is your reasoning then your content is pretty much useless to anyone. LOL. My friend I STRONGLY suggest you get a competant attorney. There have been NUMEROUS high court rulings about liability of linking to pages.

Snake Doctor · 06-25-2009, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by amacontent

Once again SOBE never had resale rights to my content. Why do you think hes gone and im still here

The fact that you outlasted him doesn't mean everything he sold was stuff he didn't have permission to sell.

I remember you arguing on the board with him, and the problem you seemed to have was the price he was selling it for, not the fact that he was selling it at all.
If he never had a right to resell it at all, why were you giving 2257 documents to people who bought your stuff through him?

Snake Doctor · 06-25-2009, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by amacontent

Once again SOBE never had resale rights to my content. Why do you think hes gone and im still here

Here, let me refresh your memory.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...3&postcount=54

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent

Ya know Erik you scumbag, you know dam well you agreed to a cap of $40. My mistake is I didnt get it in writing so I guess im fucked.

And I did try and settle this Dean Capture. Sobe said to me

I need a copy of a tape i bought from you. I will pay the money you want if you Fed Ex it to me. He went as far as making an out of court settlement so to speak:
http://www.amacontent.com/pics/sobe.jpg

Its a shit little contract, but it was an agreement . So i copied tape and fed exed it to him next day . After he recieved the tape, he ICQ me and said he decided not to live up to his agreement.
GEE what a surprise.

BTW Erik, do you have permission to use music in your videos. Thats music copyright violation right there. Hmm ripping off the music companies too. Seems like guy tryin to get his money back from you because he cant use the videos with music in it and you dont respond. You are a little prick arent you

.

So in that thread you admit that you agreed to let him resell your content, but you thought there was a $40 minimum per set handshake agreement in place.

Now, today, you say that he NEVER had rights to resell your content. (thereby implying that I'm using that content illegally)

You sold me content directly before tubes existed, that you're now saying I can't use on a tube site.

Why the fuck would I, or anyone who reads this, do business with you again? With your selective memory and wanting to change terms beyond what's in the written contract after the fact.

Mr Pheer · 07-06-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterBlow

I love those funny cat pictures.

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Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Boneprone is the original "bro", so he gets a pass. FWIW, I haven't looked to see what content if ama's is on there, but he's had alot of blowout deals in the past, at a time when tubes didn't exist and therefore tubes were not excluded in the license agreement.....so it's not out of the question that the content was paid for and is being used in a proper manner. They wouldn't be the first webmasters in history to not send content producers a list of domains they've purchased that they may or may not use previously purchased content on. __________________ sig too big

06-23-2009, 06:09 PM	#59
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06-23-2009, 07:29 PM	#64
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06-23-2009, 08:05 PM	#70
amacontent STANLEY CUP CHAMPION ! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,855	Heres my point. I may be right, I may be wrong. Yes I gave a number of people to use the content on THIER tube sites. Sites that they owned. In this day and age I understand that. What I dont understand is how another site.. can put up links to those videos that the tube site owner bought from me. How I see it, the surfer or whoever clicks a thmb on that site..and the video plays. Whats the difference if its linked or not. Surfer still watches my video from a site that the owner did not pay for. But if im wrong I apologize to Choker and anyone else involved. But I will be talking to legal about this. __________________ Joe Loughlin [email protected] TEAM- joeloughlin. Telegram - AMA_JOE https://www.amaproduction.com

06-23-2009, 08:23 PM	#72
amacontent STANLEY CUP CHAMPION ! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,855	Heres what Im saying.. im saying if surferboy goes to a traffic site, that he can click a thumb, and watch the video..and jerk off.. whats the difference if the owner of that traffic site hosts the video clip or its linked. Surferboy is watching it on the traffic site. Now some may say well its same concept of MGPS.. but in my eyes its not i dont think. MGPS my license limits to a small percentage of the video for promo use ( by the purchaser of the content ) not allowing the traffic guy to show whole video from his site. Once again, I may be way off here, im open to all constructive thoughts on the matter, but my legal will give me best advice __________________ Joe Loughlin [email protected] TEAM- joeloughlin. Telegram - AMA_JOE https://www.amaproduction.com

06-24-2009, 08:16 PM	#74
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	In addition to the blowout deals, I personally have a shitload of ama content that I bought from sobegirl. At the time I didn't realize it was ama's stuff, I thought it was Sobe's....but still, I paid for it and have a license to use it. (because Sobe had a right to resell it...although the asshole later tried to charge for the 2257 documents that didn't originally come with the content) I know those two had some sort of dispute and I don't know what ever came of it....but that would be some serious shit that would cost a ton of money to litigate if someone tried to make me take that content down. Anyhoo, I guess my point is that anything that was licensed before tubes and embedding came about is going to be a problem, if the licensor doesn't like the way the content is being used. __________________ sig too big

06-24-2009, 09:30 PM	#76
amacontent STANLEY CUP CHAMPION ! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,855	Just another point ive only given tube rights to 7 clients. So its a small field to deal with. As far as Im concerned, you cannot link my content to any tube site videos unless im paid a license fee for each video. And yes I will be speaking to a good internet lawyer about this. If my attorney says I have no case, well then it is what it is. I will however not be rocking anyones boat and will contact each case i find individually as I have with this one here and have a calm conversation with that person.. __________________ Joe Loughlin [email protected] TEAM- joeloughlin. Telegram - AMA_JOE https://www.amaproduction.com

06-25-2009, 12:33 AM	#77
MasterBlow Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 2,059	__________________