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Old 07-15-2008, 06:50 AM   #1
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Is is illegal to pay prostitutes with counterfeit money?

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it is illegal to pay anyone with counterfit money
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It is illegal to knowingly pass a counterfeit note.
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Well, you know what they say, 2 negatives equals a positive, so I guess it would be ok.
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It is illegal to knowingly pass a counterfeit note.
Not if anyone finds out.

I figure counterfeit money is good for tipping strippers. It's dark in strip clubs. Just print out some 20's on your ink jet on some thick pulpy paper and give it to them, they'll never notice most of them take their money give it a glance to make sure you aren't giving them a $1 and stuff it in their snizz.

This should also work well at nightclubs. Go to the bar order a drink or two, hand him the cash and say keep the change. It's too dark to tell.
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Give it to a drug dealer and when he blows off your head, then I guess that wont be so funny. Well maybe he'll just beat the shit outta you.
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got news for ya tippin a peeler with a counterfeit note is a one way ticket to club fed.

you think they dont watch for that shit? You think yer the first guy to think thats a great way to pass them? WRONG

You might pull it off with a crack ho but you will prolly just give it to a police decoy, thus complicating your problem many times over.
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Not if anyone finds out.

I figure counterfeit money is good for tipping strippers. It's dark in strip clubs. Just print out some 20's on your ink jet on some thick pulpy paper and give it to them, they'll never notice most of them take their money give it a glance to make sure you aren't giving them a $1 and stuff it in their snizz.

This should also work well at nightclubs. Go to the bar order a drink or two, hand him the cash and say keep the change. It's too dark to tell.
The only problem is that the majority of club owners are bad guys or working with them.

They also all have ultraviolet machines to double-check the bills(of course they don't have the time when they work to use it most of it the time... but it's really a bad idea of getting caught)
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Paco: It is illegal to knowingly pass a counterfeit note.
Davey Jones: Not if anyone finds out.
Jeepers, wally...

Does that '1+1' work for everything? So, if you end a life it is not murder, nor is it illegal ... until you are caught!!

Wuh ... ow! I simply had no idea.
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People that work in bars and clubs are used to handling cash all the time, day in and day out, so they know what real money feels like and smells like and looks like. Unless your counterfeit bills are very high quality and made by professional criminals they will be very obviously fake, even in a dimly lit night club. Passing fugazy bills that you made up yourself in a strip club is likely to get you caught the very first time and you will probably get your ass kicked by the bouncers if it is a tough place, and/or get you arrested by the Secret Service since the clubs will probably have you on camera.
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I'm sure it's illegal, but it's like ripping someone off for drugs- what are they going to do?

If the pimp finds you, you're probably getting an ass beating, though.
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one of my friends in college wrote this paper for this social deviance class we had on how to get drug dealers and hookers off the street... pay them in counterfeit money. They use the money to try and buy stuff and they get caught and go to jail, hence removing dealers and hookers off the street very slowly but others wont know and just think they got caught and be scared that they are next, unknowingly that they really got busted for using counterfeit dough
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Not if anyone finds out.

I figure counterfeit money is good for tipping strippers. It's dark in strip clubs. Just print out some 20's on your ink jet on some thick pulpy paper and give it to them, they'll never notice most of them take their money give it a glance to make sure you aren't giving them a $1 and stuff it in their snizz.

This should also work well at nightclubs. Go to the bar order a drink or two, hand him the cash and say keep the change. It's too dark to tell.
Those chicks touch money 24/7, it better be a good copy then. I'm sure if there's anyone that'll notice it, it's those money hungry bitches.
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Not if anyone finds out.
Just because authorities don't 'find out' doesn't make it legal to use counterfeit money. Same goes for robbing a bank... if nobody catches you it doesn't make it legal.
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I got news for you. It is illegal simply to possess counterfeit money.

Get caught with a pocket full of fake bills and go straight to jail wether you planned
on using them or not.

Kind of like the illegal drug thing, you don't have to actually use the drugs to get busted.
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I got news for you. It is illegal simply to possess counterfeit money.

Get caught with a pocket full of fake bills and go straight to jail wether you planned
on using them or not.

Kind of like the illegal drug thing, you don't have to actually use the drugs to get busted.
illegal to possess, come on that sounds a bit silly.

An old woman gets given a fake $10 change at the market. takes it to the bank to put in her savings and they say no its fake. Shes hardly going to be arrested.
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illegal to possess, come on that sounds a bit silly.

An old woman gets given a fake $10 change at the market. takes it to the bank to put in her savings and they say no its fake. Shes hardly going to be arrested.
The failure to arrest someone, because it makes sense in that case, does not undo the law.
A big ugly dude with a mohawk and a scar on his face in the same bank will be detained until he can explain it away.

Get a grip.
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Further, the bank is not the police and have no obligation to even report it.
People know that innocent people end up having fake bills sometimes,
so they tell them and let them throw it away.
If the bank does call the cops and there is no good explanation then believe me, an arrest
will be made.

If they didn't do that then how would they ever catch anyone?
All the crooks will just say "Some dude gave me this bill" and then walk away?????
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Better question would be, is it illegal to pay for drugs with counterfeit money?
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Better question would be, is it illegal to pay for drugs with counterfeit money?
Can you explain how the police would know you used fake money to buy drugs
without knowing that you bought drugs.
They've got you on the crime of buying drugs so they don't really need another crime.

Let me re-state your logic in another way :

You may as well ask "Is it illegal to use a stolen gun to commit murder?".

Who really gives a shit about the gun being stolen when they already got a death penalty
charge against you.

So no, that is in no way a "better question".
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1. prostitution = illegal
2. to pay = to give real money in exchange for something
3. prostitution = engaging in sexual activity in exchange for payment
4. counterfeit money = fake money

1 + 2 + 3 + 4 => paying a prostitute with counterfeit money = paying a prostitute with fake money = paying a prostitute with money that isn't real = not paying a prostitute

if you are not really paying the prostitute then there is no prostitute => paying a prostitute with counterfeit money = legal.
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1. prostitution = illegal
2. to pay = to give real money in exchange for something
3. prostitution = engaging in sexual activity in exchange for payment
4. counterfeit money = fake money

1 + 2 + 3 + 4 => paying a prostitute with counterfeit money = paying a prostitute with fake money = paying a prostitute with money that isn't real = not paying a prostitute

if you are not really paying the prostitute then there is no prostitute => paying a prostitute with counterfeit money = legal.


This explains why people continue to commit the same crimes over and over.

This also explains why people really do need lawyers.

My friend, you can't possibly believe this argument would work in court.
Come on.
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Possession of counterfeit United States obligations with fraudulent intent is a violation of Title 18, Section 472 of the United States Code and is punishable by a fine of up to $15,000, or 15 years imprisonment, or both.

The problem here grasping this is that people are trying to find a loophole by which
they can escape the law. They already thought about that.

Simple logic here : The cops are going to get you on anything they can, so flirting
with this to try to find a loophole really is not smart at all. It'll never work.

Will the hooker report you to the police....most likey hell no!
Is it illegal....absolutely hell yes.

Further, from my experience, street hookers are often "at peace" with the cops and if they tell one of the beat cops about you then you will be stopped and if they can find
any fake money on you it's end game! The cop will not even mention the hooker.
You will be charged with possesion and that they "observed" you trying to solicit females
on the street for sex using this money.
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So if you paid a hooker with funny money and got AIDS would that count ?
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Not if anyone finds out.

I figure counterfeit money is good for tipping strippers. It's dark in strip clubs. Just print out some 20's on your ink jet on some thick pulpy paper and give it to them, they'll never notice most of them take their money give it a glance to make sure you aren't giving them a $1 and stuff it in their snizz.

This should also work well at nightclubs. Go to the bar order a drink or two, hand him the cash and say keep the change. It's too dark to tell.
Strippers can spot funny money from a block away, blindfolded.
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most ho's are so high and paranoid they think real bills are fake - let alone "real" fake ones ...

and most nightclubs use the ultraviolent scanner on suspect bills.

prob. would work on a stoned pizza guy.
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My friend, you can't possibly believe this argument would work in court.
Come on.
do you really have to ask
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Not if anyone finds out.

I figure counterfeit money is good for tipping strippers. It's dark in strip clubs. Just print out some 20's on your ink jet on some thick pulpy paper and give it to them, they'll never notice most of them take their money give it a glance to make sure you aren't giving them a $1 and stuff it in their snizz.

This should also work well at nightclubs. Go to the bar order a drink or two, hand him the cash and say keep the change. It's too dark to tell.
Wow. one word comes to mind: DOUCHE. You are a douche LOL. Those girls deserve every penny they EARN by putting up with you, and I have never seen a stripper stash her cash in her "snizz" whatever that means LOL
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I got news for you. It is illegal simply to possess counterfeit money.

Get caught with a pocket full of fake bills and go straight to jail wether you planned
on using them or not.

Kind of like the illegal drug thing, you don't have to actually use the drugs to get busted.
Sorry, but I think you missed some important wording in the law, if you even read it at all.

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Possession of counterfeit United States obligations with fraudulent intent is a violation of Title 18, Section 472 of the United States Code and is punishable by a fine or imprisonment for up to 15 years, or both.
"Fraudulent intent" is the key. You are suggesting that if I give you a counterfeit bill and you accept it without knowing, that you'd be breaking the law for possession. That's simply not true.

http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/money_law.shtml
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/1...2----000-.html
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Not if anyone finds out.

I figure counterfeit money is good for tipping strippers. It's dark in strip clubs. Just print out some 20's on your ink jet on some thick pulpy paper and give it to them, they'll never notice most of them take their money give it a glance to make sure you aren't giving them a $1 and stuff it in their snizz.

This should also work well at nightclubs. Go to the bar order a drink or two, hand him the cash and say keep the change. It's too dark to tell.

If you need to ask...

Well I guess this thread speaks words about your moral and honesty...

Another one to not do biz with...
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I figure counterfeit money is good for tipping strippers. It's dark in strip clubs. Just print out some 20's on your ink jet on some thick pulpy paper and give it to them, they'll never notice most of them take their money give it a glance to make sure you aren't giving them a $1 and stuff it in their snizz.

This should also work well at nightclubs. Go to the bar order a drink or two, hand him the cash and say keep the change. It's too dark to tell.
Wow. one word comes to mind: DOUCHE. You are a douche LOL. Those girls deserve every penny they EARN by putting up with you, and I have never seen a stripper stash her cash in her "snizz" whatever that means LOL
agree with you aaliyah, sometimes I wonder if some of these idiots are 14 years old living with their parents, seem like they have no real world smarts at all and attitudes like annoying punkass adolescents
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Old 07-15-2008, 01:26 PM   #45
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1. prostitution = illegal
2. to pay = to give real money in exchange for something
3. prostitution = engaging in sexual activity in exchange for payment
4. counterfeit money = fake money

1 + 2 + 3 + 4 => paying a prostitute with counterfeit money = paying a prostitute with fake money = paying a prostitute with money that isn't real = not paying a prostitute

if you are not really paying the prostitute then there is no prostitute => paying a prostitute with counterfeit money = legal.
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Old 07-15-2008, 01:28 PM   #46
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"Fraudulent intent" is the key. You are suggesting that if I give you a counterfeit bill and you accept it without knowing, that you'd be breaking the law for possession. That's simply not true.

Sir, you are having dificulty understanding how a court will establish "Fraudulent intent".

If the fake bill is in a frame on your wall, then no "Fraudulent intent".

If you put six knowingly fake bills into your pocket and walk to the store then that is
enough to establish "Fraudulent intent" wether you ever get to the store or not.

Next, they will surely search your home for more and if they find a stack of fake
bills then fradulent intent it clear based on the quantity of bills alone.

You are trying to argue somthing simlar to this :

"Officer, you can only charge me with possession but not "dealing" because I had no intent to sale my personal stash of 65 tons of cocaine".

You are falsely assuming that society will let you get away with the crime because they
can't read your mind to establish intent.

And it's quite fucking funny. I mean, don't you realize that I could be on the jury.
I'm not going to buy your bullshit story that you aint a crook.

If you can't fool me than why do you think you can fool a system full of people that
are more hardass than I ever dreamed of being.

This is a joke.
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First try it in machines that change dollars for coins. if it works there, then you're good to go ...
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