Are you working a lot harder for a lot less? - GoFuckYourself.com

xxxjay · 07-16-2008, 01:08 PM

Are the salad days over for the industry?

Klen · 07-16-2008, 01:35 PM

Shits happening

pornguy · 07-16-2008, 01:38 PM

No I dont think they are, but a lot of people are going to have to change their thinking.

munki · 07-16-2008, 01:40 PM

It ain't the .com boom era anymore that's for fucking shizzle....

Don Pueblo · 07-16-2008, 01:42 PM

Lots of people are still lying about what they're making.

Barefootsies · 07-16-2008, 02:11 PM

Nope.

Sales increase every year for the past 4-5 years.

Conversions steady as always.

baddog · 07-16-2008, 02:14 PM

not hardly

xxxjay · 07-16-2008, 03:37 PM

14 out of 6 people can't be wrong

Barefootsies · 07-16-2008, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

14 out of 6 people can't be wrong

baddog · 07-16-2008, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

14 out of 6 people can't be wrong

Is that new math?

RyuLion · 07-16-2008, 06:09 PM

not necessary harder but smarter..

Spunky · 07-16-2008, 06:11 PM

I've always been a hard worker.it's in my blood

SomeCreep · 07-16-2008, 06:15 PM

Once I found a job I loved, I never worked another day in my life.

I love being a webmaster.

fuzebox · 07-16-2008, 07:12 PM

I came in too late for the easy money days... Still, all the hard work is paying off over time.

HAPPYPEEKERS · 07-16-2008, 07:15 PM

I am working alot... got a few new things going on as well.

seeric · 07-16-2008, 07:28 PM

still the same old gfy bullshit.

AmeliaG · 07-16-2008, 07:31 PM

I am working harder for more, but I have to work waaaaaaaaaaaaay harder for the same incremental increases than I did before.

ericdv · 07-16-2008, 07:33 PM

hey jay are you selling snizzshare? i saw it on ebay

GetSCORECash · 07-16-2008, 07:37 PM

I'm working twice as hard for less, but once we are over these summer months, I'm sure it will get easier.

rowan · 07-16-2008, 09:15 PM

2001: $USD1,000 = $AUD2,083 (more than double)
2008, yesterday: $USD1,000 = $AUD1,009 (nearly at parity.)

I'm not just competing with other webmasters. It hurts when you have to work harder just to make the same amount of local currency.

07-16-2008, 09:39 PM

I've been more organized over the last 2 years with daily tasks, and with strict stat overviews, I've paid attention to what aspects of the business make me the most $. I work about the same, but I seem to be making quite a bit more over the last 2 years.

american pervert · 07-16-2008, 09:43 PM

i dont really do much if i can help it

gecko · 07-16-2008, 09:43 PM

Because of the weak dollar.. Working harder just to make as much as I used to.

GAMEFINEST · 07-16-2008, 10:14 PM

i make money as first as i can..

Peaches · 07-16-2008, 10:24 PM

I'm now starting Career #2 after adult. I have a low threshold for boredom and I'm sure I'll get bored with this new thing in a few years, lol. But back in the early days of working adult, 18 hour days weren't unheard of. Then it evened out where you could build those sites and let them go on autopilot with a little tweaking and work a lot less and make the same amount of $$$. Now the people I talk to in adult who are still in adult 100% full time tell me they are working a LOT harder to make the same amount of money. Maybe they're just telling me that make me feel good since I'm getting ready to go back to starting out all over again and probably looking at at least 16 hour days

bdld · 07-16-2008, 10:26 PM

the same things that made me money the last few years aren't doing so well. im making the same as before because im doing different things now.

Matt 26z · 07-16-2008, 10:38 PM

As the pond gets bigger, so do the fish.

st0ned · 07-16-2008, 10:40 PM

I came in late, dabbled in adult way back in the day but didn't make much of it. Started last June and went from $0-$xxx,xxx so I guess sales are good. Managing 200+ sites is definitely not an easy task though.

NinjaSteve · 07-16-2008, 10:58 PM

If other people can work less, it might help me out. Thanks.

brandonstills · 07-16-2008, 11:44 PM

I'm working harder and getting getting paid accordingly. I always try to go above and beyond.

pr0 · 07-16-2008, 11:51 PM

Everyone here should be diversifying their traffic streams right now

The economy is just beginning to get bad.....we havn't even seen half of it yet.

If you thought sales were hard last month, wait till next month.

With that said....i think everyone is seeing their conversions drop slightly.

Perhaps people are making more $ today than a year ago.....but thats only because they have more traffic IMO.

JAY....i lost your icq btw, please re-send to 440-887 thanks

pr0 · 07-16-2008, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by american pervert

i dont really do much if i can help it

nice meeting you in vegas A.P.

that soda i grabbed out of your mini fridge btw, was rancid & disgusting

o well can't win em all!

TheSenator · 07-17-2008, 03:20 AM

I keep growing my traffic from year to year with a few solid blogs. I weened myself from AVS, link list, free sites and TGPs to concentrate on just a few high-end blogs. I am actually making the same these days with a lot more work. In the early days I could take off for a few months and spend well over 1000 a night boozing it up. Oh well, live and learn.

These days I am much more serious about how I run my business.

bloggingseo · 07-17-2008, 03:29 AM

I agree with the above poster who said not a lot harder, but a lot smarter. I have been managing my time a lot better and getting more done lately

darksoul · 07-17-2008, 03:32 AM

not working as much as I used to but I'm fully aware I could make more if I'd put my ass to work. Just being lazy for the time being.

teomaxxx · 07-17-2008, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

2001: $USD1,000 = $AUD2,083 (more than double)
2008, yesterday: $USD1,000 = $AUD1,009 (nearly at parity.)

I'm not just competing with other webmasters. It hurts when you have to work harder just to make the same amount of local currency.

In our country it is:
2001 1$USD =40CZK
2008 1$USD =14CZK (almost double of what it was in 2001)

And that doesnt count local price increases. The USD buys you(basic living necessities, housing, traffic fares, etc.) around 20% of what it bought you in 2001 here.

Despite that, I am working less and earning much less then in 2003-2006. After few years in adult I got simply bored as hell.

Violetta · 07-17-2008, 04:35 AM

I work more and harder with NON adult stuff!

emac · 07-17-2008, 08:08 AM

ive been working harder and i need to make it a lot harder.

Quagmire · 07-17-2008, 08:45 AM

You must adapt like any other industry. Working differently, not harder.

Jman · 07-17-2008, 08:59 AM

I'm working harder but on mainstream projects.

I think the paycheck at the end of the day will be much better.

Also if the people in the industry focused more on working then going to a show every month and spend all the money to sponsor and by drinks and have painted girls walk around to impress people I think some companies would be less in a jam. Especially knowing that half the twits going to those parties don't have traffic, or aren't even webmasters.

Posting on GFY does NOT qualify you as a webmaster IMHO.

At the end of the day you will ALL work for hahaha ;-)

shadowsdrop · 07-17-2008, 09:09 AM

This Industry is really about Innovation. Yeah my sales drop but with persistence and further knowledge money will keep flowing.

IntenseJerry · 07-17-2008, 10:09 AM

We are working harder and I hope smarter. I agree in being more innovative and finding those alternative and secondary revenue streams.

It is important to push the envelope and try new approaches. You have to adjust with the current economic climate.

american pervert · 07-17-2008, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0

nice meeting you in vegas A.P.

that soda i grabbed out of your mini fridge btw, was rancid & disgusting

o well can't win em all!

its not like i had a choice when i picked up that six pack at the store....

Barefootsies · 07-17-2008, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Francois

I'm working harder but on mainstream projects.

I think the paycheck at the end of the day will be much better.

Also if the people in the industry focused more on working then going to a show every month and spend all the money to sponsor and by drinks and have painted girls walk around to impress people I think some companies would be less in a jam. Especially knowing that half the twits going to those parties don't have traffic, or aren't even webmasters.

Posting on GFY does NOT qualify you as a webmaster IMHO.

At the end of the day you will ALL work for hahaha ;-)

Some of these companies would be better if they spent their 'shows' money on making new content.

Some sites and programs are in the shitter because they do not do, or keep, updates more than once a week. If ever. Some just rotate their old shit from years back.

THAT is why many people's sales are down. You think you are going to get the next year's miles out of 1998's content. Wrong.

Cyndalie · 07-17-2008, 10:52 AM

Yep, since 2002

tranza · 07-17-2008, 11:31 AM

Harder to get more!

Cash · 07-17-2008, 11:06 PM

The sad truth is: yes.

Robbie · 07-17-2008, 11:23 PM

I worked 12 hour days in 1998. I work 12 hour days now. I made decent money in 1998. I make stupid crazy money now. I plan on working 12 hour work days for the rest of my life just because I love to work and make money. Just can't stand to think of a dollar I may have missed somewhere. I love to start new projects and add to my shit. I find that once I get something "down" and get real efficient with it, then I can slip in something else to work on too. I still think I can squeeze out another half hour a day soon. And when I do, I'm gonna get together with JC and work on a new project.

MJ_AVN · 07-17-2008, 11:26 PM

Jay - porn is recession proof. The mainstream media told me so.

hjnet · 07-17-2008, 11:48 PM

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07-16-2008, 01:08 PM	#1
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07-16-2008, 01:38 PM	#3
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	No I dont think they are, but a lot of people are going to have to change their thinking. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

07-16-2008, 01:40 PM	#4
munki Do Fun Shit. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OC Posts: 13,393	It ain't the .com boom era anymore that's for fucking shizzle.... __________________ “I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

07-16-2008, 01:42 PM	#5
Don Pueblo Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 656	Lots of people are still lying about what they're making. __________________ Don Pueblo Worlds Best Latin Lover

07-16-2008, 01:35 PM	#2
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Shits happening

07-16-2008, 02:11 PM	#6
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	Nope. Sales increase every year for the past 4-5 years. Conversions steady as always. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

07-16-2008, 02:14 PM	#7
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	not hardly

07-16-2008, 03:37 PM	#8
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	14 out of 6 people can't be wrong __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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RyuLion ClubDomCash.com Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 32,258	not necessary harder but smarter.. __________________ Adult Biz Consultant A tech head since 1995

07-16-2008, 06:11 PM	#12
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,940	I've always been a hard worker.it's in my blood __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

07-16-2008, 06:15 PM	#13
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07-16-2008, 07:12 PM	#14
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,112	I came in too late for the easy money days... Still, all the hard work is paying off over time.

07-16-2008, 07:15 PM	#15
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07-16-2008, 07:28 PM	#16
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	still the same old gfy bullshit.

07-16-2008, 07:31 PM	#17
AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,563	I am working harder for more, but I have to work waaaaaaaaaaaaay harder for the same incremental increases than I did before. __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

07-16-2008, 07:33 PM	#18
ericdv Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 57	hey jay are you selling snizzshare? i saw it on ebay

07-16-2008, 07:37 PM	#19
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07-16-2008, 09:15 PM	#20
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	2001: $USD1,000 = $AUD2,083 (more than double) 2008, yesterday: $USD1,000 = $AUD1,009 (nearly at parity.) I'm not just competing with other webmasters. It hurts when you have to work harder just to make the same amount of local currency.

07-16-2008, 09:39 PM	#21
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	I've been more organized over the last 2 years with daily tasks, and with strict stat overviews, I've paid attention to what aspects of the business make me the most $. I work about the same, but I seem to be making quite a bit more over the last 2 years.

07-16-2008, 09:43 PM	#22
american pervert Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,830	i dont really do much if i can help it __________________ I can resist everything except temptation

07-16-2008, 09:43 PM	#23
gecko ****** Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 21,846	Because of the weak dollar.. Working harder just to make as much as I used to. __________________ [email protected]

07-16-2008, 10:14 PM	#24
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07-16-2008, 10:24 PM	#25
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	I'm now starting Career #2 after adult. I have a low threshold for boredom and I'm sure I'll get bored with this new thing in a few years, lol. But back in the early days of working adult, 18 hour days weren't unheard of. Then it evened out where you could build those sites and let them go on autopilot with a little tweaking and work a lot less and make the same amount of $$$. Now the people I talk to in adult who are still in adult 100% full time tell me they are working a LOT harder to make the same amount of money. Maybe they're just telling me that make me feel good since I'm getting ready to go back to starting out all over again and probably looking at at least 16 hour days

07-16-2008, 10:26 PM	#26
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	the same things that made me money the last few years aren't doing so well. im making the same as before because im doing different things now.

07-16-2008, 10:38 PM	#27
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	As the pond gets bigger, so do the fish.

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st0ned Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 8,437	I came in late, dabbled in adult way back in the day but didn't make much of it. Started last June and went from $0-$xxx,xxx so I guess sales are good. Managing 200+ sites is definitely not an easy task though. __________________ Conversion Sharks - 1,000+ adult dating offers, traffic management, and consistently high payouts. We will guarantee and beat your current EPC to win your dating traffic! Skype: ConversionSharks \|\| Email: info /@/ conversionsharks.com

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brandonstills Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chatsworth, CA Posts: 1,964	I'm working harder and getting getting paid accordingly. I always try to go above and beyond. __________________ Brandon Stills Industry and programming veteran [email protected] \| skype: brandonstills \| ICQ #495-171-318

07-16-2008, 11:51 PM	#31
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	Everyone here should be diversifying their traffic streams right now The economy is just beginning to get bad.....we havn't even seen half of it yet. If you thought sales were hard last month, wait till next month. With that said....i think everyone is seeing their conversions drop slightly. Perhaps people are making more $ today than a year ago.....but thats only because they have more traffic IMO. JAY....i lost your icq btw, please re-send to 440-887 thanks __________________ __________ Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

07-17-2008, 03:20 AM	#33
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,336	I keep growing my traffic from year to year with a few solid blogs. I weened myself from AVS, link list, free sites and TGPs to concentrate on just a few high-end blogs. I am actually making the same these days with a lot more work. In the early days I could take off for a few months and spend well over 1000 a night boozing it up. Oh well, live and learn. These days I am much more serious about how I run my business. __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

07-17-2008, 03:29 AM	#34
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07-17-2008, 03:32 AM	#35
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07-17-2008, 04:35 AM	#37
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07-17-2008, 08:08 AM	#38
emac Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 504	ive been working harder and i need to make it a lot harder. __________________ HD Editing and Authoring [Edit Fast\|\|Deliver Faster] ICQ: 458-118-821