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Old 07-18-2008, 07:24 AM   #51
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:27 AM   #52
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I wonder if they'd mind if i start a tube site and ripped their entire members area. They've set precedent that it's ok. Should be good for traffic.
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:34 AM   #53
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I've already contacted 21SexturyCash, cause the site is all over in their 20 min clips, they're going to contact the site's owners now.

And I did contact them, but only by a support page message so far. Now I'm wainting... Thanks for the info anyway!
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Old 07-18-2008, 08:01 AM   #54
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However we need more sponsors to step in.
So far I've seen much VideosZ and OralCash content there.
I see alot of content from sponsors and studios - they are probably not aware, and/or do not have the resources to do anything about it. What would be great is some sort of coordinated effort or even an organization that can streamline the process, and collect funds to do whatever it takes putting a stop to this.

I would gladly take ex. 5% less sponsor payout or pay 5% more for content if it went to a copyright fund!

The illegal tubes will be the end game for lots of affliates, sponsors, studios, and companies/individuals serving the industry (processors, webhosts, designers, traffic sellers, models etc.), so I´m guessing I´m not the only one willing to help end this despite not being a content owner.
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Old 07-18-2008, 08:37 AM   #55
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I see alot of content from sponsors and studios - they are probably not aware, and/or do not have the resources to do anything about it. What would be great is some sort of coordinated effort or even an organization that can streamline the process, and collect funds to do whatever it takes putting a stop to this.

I would gladly take ex. 5% less sponsor payout or pay 5% more for content if it went to a copyright fund!

The illegal tubes will be the end game for lots of affliates, sponsors, studios, and companies/individuals serving the industry (processors, webhosts, designers, traffic sellers, models etc.), so I´m guessing I´m not the only one willing to help end this despite not being a content owner.
I'd be 100% good with that too... and agree with every word of your last paragraph. Most webmaster/sponsors etc. tend to look at in on the smaller scale saying "Well if they're on a tube site, they probably wouldn't pay for porn anyways." I completely disagree with that thought. If there never were ANY tube sites, forums etc. that gave away free content people would have no choice but to pay for porn. The problem is it's almost impossible to stop. Or so it seems.
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:06 AM   #56
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:14 AM   #57
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What a shock - Brazzers apparently does not give a shit about the copyrights of others.

Not surprising that even their 2257 page carries an ad from the other crappiest dishonest scam company in porn, Adult Friend Finder.

If the DOJ and FBI were doing their job, they would shut these programs down!!!

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Why should they care? People know their actions and keep pushing them. No reason for them to change their behavior.
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Old 07-21-2008, 01:21 AM   #58
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I'm still surprised the Paris Hilton video is still up. Did anyone tell Evan?
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Old 07-22-2008, 12:01 AM   #59
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Old 07-22-2008, 12:09 AM   #60
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I don't think letting one video play is really going to strain their resources. Always wondered what would happen if a bunch of big porn sites got together and did something like this for a couple days.

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hehehe that's a pretty evil idea... I like it
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Old 08-09-2008, 10:17 AM   #61
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It does look like a good site!
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IMHO As far as affiliation goes, the survivors will be the ones who emphasize on promoting something that is not easily available for free where the producers tightly enforce their rights.
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Old 08-09-2008, 11:53 AM   #66
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there are so many ways to get them banned by google in the serps

you morons stop crying and just get them blacklisted by google its really easy. little shady, but easy.
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Old 08-09-2008, 11:55 AM   #67
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Too bad Brazzer's is "bro'd" up with all of the other old school massive programs..

They all trade traffic, white labels, etc, with each other.

The biggest companies in this industry couldn't care less about illegal tube sites.

They sure as hell aint going to shut down their "Bros"

Why didn't anyone ask WHY i was wondering who owns Massive Dollars? They are wrapped up in illegal tubes also..

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Your bosses are good "Bros" with Brazzers.

You are helping to support the problem.
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Old 08-09-2008, 12:14 PM   #69
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lol, a tube site with full length free videos listed #1 on google for "porn" will kill sales like insane... Google seems like the worst enemy right here, lol
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Too bad Brazzer's is "bro'd" up with all of the other old school massive programs..

They all trade traffic, white labels, etc, with each other.

The biggest companies in this industry couldn't care less about illegal tube sites.

They sure as hell aint going to shut down their "Bros"

Why didn't anyone ask WHY i was wondering who owns Massive Dollars? They are wrapped up in illegal tubes also..
What illegal sites do Massive Dollars own or are "associated" with??
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Why didn't anyone ask WHY i was wondering who owns Massive Dollars? They are wrapped up in illegal tubes also..
WE are wrapped up in illegal tubes also? Please, enlighten me, show me what sites we own or are 'associated' with.
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I dunno what association you guys have with this tube but being a top sponsor paying their bills does nothing but HELP them.

Sorry I refuse to spread links to tube sites on GFY.

Figure out who is using 500x300 ads to promote you next to 90% of their videos.

Oh and this TubeSite has complete videos from GFY guys like Robbie.. So you guys are indirectly helping to rip him off by allowing your affiliates to promote you on their tube sites

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damn, big company puttin the small guys outta business.....shitty thing to do
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I dunno what association you guys have with this tube but being a top sponsor paying their bills does nothing but HELP them.

Sorry I refuse to spread links to tube sites on GFY.

Figure out who is using 500x300 ads to promote you on 90% of their videos along with CE cash and another program.
klaze - with a illegal tube sites popping out of the woodwork, I wouldn't be able to tell you who's using 500x300 banners if they aren't hosted by us. Care to send me a link of the site you're referring to? Would simplify it lots.

Also - being 'WRAPPED UP' in illegal tube sites insinuates that WE have something to do with it or have 'ok'd' it - and I assure, that is not the case. If what you say is true and I'm not doubting you, he is doing it without us noticing.

You can reach me with any of the messengers if you don't want to post who it is in here.

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Oh and this TubeSite has complete videos from GFY guys like Robbie.. So you guys are indirectly helping to rip him off by allowing your affiliates to promote you on their tube sites
klaze, with the amount of investment that has been put into content for MassiveDollars in the past 8 months - do you think we're interested in people fucking over others in the industry? We aren't - we won't fuck affiliates and we won't fuck our partners.

We're in it for the money - but we're in it for the money the right way - we're not interested in fucking anyone over, nor supporting people who fuck others over.

If you want me to put an end to it - then give me an indication which site it is, I assure you, there hasn't been a boom of clicks or sales for me to notice anything funky and we're very meticulous in checking our affiliates.

That goes for anyone else too - if you see our stuff anywhere or see our banners anywhere they shouldn't be - then please contact me and let me know.
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Brazzers own www.pornhub.com and now they launch www.tube1.com

The traffic stats are already impressive.

Are TGP's dying out? I hear people say TGPs dont make profit anymore. Looks like Tubes sites are taking over.
My ratio for them has sucked for 4 or 5 months compared to what it was before. Can you say saturated free content?
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What a shock - Brazzers apparently does not give a shit about the copyrights of others.

Not surprising that even their 2257 page carries an ad from the other crappiest dishonest scam company in porn, Adult Friend Finder.

If the DOJ and FBI were doing their job, they would shut these programs down!!!

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This industry rarely comes together. One of the few examples was it coming together to fight 2257. What a glorious waste of time and money that was. The DOJ and the FBI never did a lot other than window dressing. Any visits recently to inspect documents?

I'm assuming the above companies are US based. And probably wrong. LOL
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What a shock - Brazzers apparently does not give a shit about the copyrights of others.

Not surprising that even their 2257 page carries an ad from the other crappiest dishonest scam company in porn, Adult Friend Finder.

If the DOJ and FBI were doing their job, they would shut these programs down!!!

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Why do they need to do anything... we are in that big of a self destruct mode we'll do all the work for them
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I've just noticed a shitload of Twistys vids on that site incl a lot of Annette Dawn and Hanna Hilton.
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Title says "Sponsored Video..." but that doesnt has to mean anything.. or does it?!
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Title says "Sponsored Video..." but that doesnt has to mean anything.. or does it?!
Well there's no aff code in the linkback, I checked
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Aren't the hosting companies somehow responsible as well? I can't believe a reputable hosting company like Swiftwill would host so many illegal tube sites.
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Pornhub/tube1.. ive never seen ads for them nor are they on SE's, yet they getting millions of hits daily
Pornhub is number 1 on google for Porn
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you guys have to act dirty. way don't you pay couple of russians to download all of their content and to upload it on other tube sites, including yours? eye for an eye.
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Saw them in Florida representing. Surprised they haven't been confronted on any of this.
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klaze, with the amount of investment that has been put into content for MassiveDollars in the past 8 months - do you think we're interested in people fucking over others in the industry? We aren't - we won't fuck affiliates and we won't fuck our partners.

We're in it for the money - but we're in it for the money the right way - we're not interested in fucking anyone over, nor supporting people who fuck others over.

If you want me to put an end to it - then give me an indication which site it is, I assure you, there hasn't been a boom of clicks or sales for me to notice anything funky and we're very meticulous in checking our affiliates.

That goes for anyone else too - if you see our stuff anywhere or see our banners anywhere they shouldn't be - then please contact me and let me know.
I want it to be known that I DID NOT contact MassiveDollars to tell them who is promoting them on Illegal Tubes.

That's not my duty or my job and I do not want to be held responsible for someone losing their affiliate account or website.

But I want MassiveDollars to be on their toes.
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I want it to be known that I DID NOT contact MassiveDollars to tell them who is promoting them on Illegal Tubes.

That's not my duty or my job and I do not want to be held responsible for someone losing their affiliate account or website.

But I want MassiveDollars to be on their toes.
You're correct that it's not your job or duty - but making a statement that we're wrapped up in illegal tube sites is not only false, but it's offensive and couldn't be further from the truth and you could very well be causing financial damages even if it was not your intention.

You came in this thread like a hero wanting to out someone and then when I ask you for the bread to go with the butter, you go silent.

I've gone through NATS and logs but with 25+ sites and no indication of where it's coming from, are they linking direct or not, or if they made a sale or not, it's going to be harder to track.

If you don't want to implicate yourself, then have someone else send the info or do it anonymously - I don't care how you do it, just send it to me - I want to check the affiliate and remove him if you are in fact correct.

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Old 08-12-2008, 04:54 AM   #95
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wonder how sites like sleazydream, pichunter, worldsex and the hun are doing saleswise...
Sales are consistent with last year. Pageviews up, visitors down. Nothing moved more than 5% though.
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Old 08-12-2008, 06:02 AM   #96
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