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Old 07-27-2008, 06:53 AM   #1
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Thunderball sucks

You cant drop link trades there,any you cant delete sites from there if there is still active link exchanges.And link checker doesnt work automaticly.Is there a alternative which works good?
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Old 07-27-2008, 07:08 AM   #2
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Old 07-27-2008, 07:11 AM   #3
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I just joined the other day and I like it so far...
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Old 07-27-2008, 07:32 AM   #4
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Meh... haven't used it for years now.. and still get trade requests... I wonder if people will get the hint... trade directly with me or nevermind
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Well generaly link exchange is hard to do these days.Like webmasters stop caring about link exchanges generaly.
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I just joined the other day and I like it so far...
And you probably will until you have a few hundred sites and it starts to time out all the time >< tried poking Mr Bond about it but no luck, in effect it means to me that I can't see all my sites when picking where people should link to = the system is now useless to me.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:05 AM   #8
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You cant drop link trades
All you have to do is contact the other partner and Mutually Take down links and then delete


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you cant delete sites from there if there is still active link exchanges.
You can NEVER delete sites from your profile... this is how we stop cheaters from hopping around. You CAN Deactivate your domains and you wont get requests for/from them.


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And link checker doesnt work automaticly. Is there a alternative which works good?

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Old 07-27-2008, 09:11 AM   #9
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it starts to time out all the time >< tried poking Mr Bond about it but no luck,
I answer ALL ICQs... and haven't heard a word about this.


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in effect it means to me that I can't see all my sites when picking where people should link to
There's a guy with 889 domains and there is no problem operating them.

FireFox has a Lower Timeout Threshold on AJAX actions. Try IE until FireFox steps up... hopefully in Version 3

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All you have to do is contact the other partner and Mutually Take down links and then delete




You can NEVER delete sites from your profile... this is how we stop cheaters from hopping around. You CAN Deactivate your domains and you wont get requests for/from them.





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Contacting trade partner will take toomuch time beside question is will he ever answer.
Also,speaking about cheaters,there should be systems which should check automaticly is link present on other site,and if not it's not there it should be automaticly deactivated.I mean cheating is not only reason why someone removing link.It could change of template,maybe no longer wanting trade etc..I mean,dealing with cheaters simply causing toomuch headache so that is why there should be system which can resolve automaticly such issues.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:16 AM   #11
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You can NEVER delete sites from your profile... this is how we stop cheaters from hopping around. You CAN Deactivate your domains and you wont get requests for/from them.

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is it possible to not make them show up anymore to the public? is that what the deactivating does?
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:17 AM   #12
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Hmm, I have several hundred trades via ThunderBall and have never had a problem. It has done wonders for my blog network. I get fucked over trading links with people around here all the time, never been fucked on a thunderball trade, if someone drops my link, I know it right away and take care of it.

My only gripe is all the daily requests from newbie dumbasses with pr0 sites wanting to exchange links with my sites which all have good pr, thats getting to be a pain in the ass
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:20 AM   #13
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is it possible to not make them show up anymore to the public? is that what the deactivating does?
yes, only you can see it
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is it possible to not make them show up anymore to the public? is that what the deactivating does?
Yes, you set the domains to inactive and this allows you to point links to them (develop trades to them) but does not show them as an option for links to others.

Most people have their important money sites deactivated, but added, so they can generate links to the money sites, and offer links from the other sites in their network.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:23 AM   #15
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I answer ALL ICQs... and haven't heard a word about this.




There's a guy with 889 domains and there is no problem operating them.

FireFox has a Lower Timeout Threshold on AJAX actions. Try IE until FireFox steps up... hopefully in Version 3

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Strange, I did ask you there but maybe I'm not accepted...? ICQ is in sig.

This is doing it with FF3, I'll check IE - thanks for the heads-up
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My only gripe is all the daily requests from newbie dumbasses with pr0 sites wanting to exchange links with my sites which all have good pr, thats getting to be a pain in the ass
Message these fools and explain to them that you will not bite on bogus trades, and if they continue spamming your admin you will Blacklist them.
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Contacting trade partner will take toomuch time beside question is will he ever answer.
Also,speaking about cheaters,there should be systems which should check automaticly is link present on other site,and if not it's not there it should be automaticly deactivated.I mean cheating is not only reason why someone removing link.It could change of template,maybe no longer wanting trade etc..I mean,dealing with cheaters simply causing toomuch headache so that is why there should be system which can resolve automaticly such issues.
You must have just had some bad luck, Ive never had those sort of problems, I have hundreds of active trades, get a cheat report maybe once every week or two on one or two trades
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You can NEVER delete sites from your profile... this is how we stop cheaters from hopping around. You CAN Deactivate your domains and you wont get requests for/from them.

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Btw, I bought a site that was already added to someones profile - is there a fix for that other than poking you about it?
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Message these fools and explain to them that you will not bite on bogus trades, and if they continue spamming your admin you will Blacklist them.

Yea, that what I do, they just seem to be coming out of the woodwork lately
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Contacting trade partner will take too much time
So you just want to drop links any time you like without telling the partner? Well.. then you will get shit listed... and complain about that as well.


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there should be systems which should check automaticly is link present on other site
The system AUTOMATICALLY Checks links about every 15 days... and sometimes EVERY 4 days to Ambush the Bastards.


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there should be systems which should check automaticly is link present on other site,and if not it's not there it should be automaticly deactivated.
Everyone puts links up in their own way... that is why TBN is compatable with Everyones systems.

Many people setup a bunch of links... and then Drop them a few weeks later with whatever the Fuck Excuse they can come up with... That is why Thunder-Ball was built.

IT IS a BIG DEALto Take down links (automatically or not) because as other people in this thread have mentioned... We Don't Like to Trade with Strangers and when we see someone who drops links on a regular basis ... we have the Shit List to keep track of them...

... They cant just Drop Links and slip away automatically to setup more links with other people and waste those people's time.


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I mean cheating is not only reason why someone removing link.It could change of template,maybe no longer wanting trade etc..

True...

...but before Thunder-Ball... the amount of cheaters/link droppers was TOTALLY Fuckin Intollerable!! I would spend hours in the forums to get a few link trades only to see them dropped a week or so later.

There was no way to keep track of them OR effectivly warn other people.


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I mean,dealing with cheaters simply causing too much headache
Yes... and again... that is why TBN was built. You can see if someone has been a Shitty Trader buy looking at their profile and Shit Listings (if any). The Majority of people have 0-Zero Shit Listings because they know the system will Automatically catch them AND more importantly... other REAL People... will Shit List them

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so that is why there should be system which can resolve automaticly such issues.
If you want automatic link dropping.... use LinkEX. Many people use LinkEX and Link Organizer in combination with Thunder-ball.


TBN is where you find and keep track of people to trade with... How you manage your links is your business.

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is it possible to not make them show up anymore to the public? is that what the deactivating does?
Yes.... just Deactivate your domain and no one will see it or be able to make requests from it.

But!! You can still get links TO it when You Choose to.

This works perfectly for your Main sites that you are not going to Link From.

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Bond, apologies from me since I only IM'ed you about the problem with the site already being registered and not the time-out issue. Next time I have a trade pending, I'll check things out in IE

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Btw, I bought a site that was already added to someones profile - is there a fix for that other than poking you about it?
For now... the procedure is to hit me up and I will release the domain after you put a code on it for me to verify you have control/ownership of it.

And ya... I need to get that automated.

I check my ICQ every day... just drop me a line

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Bond, apologies from me since I only IM'ed you about the problem with the site already being registered and not the time-out issue. Next time I have a trade pending, I'll check things out in IE
No worries... most people are on FF I know....



The problem was/is:

You guys have NO IDEA how many Robot and Script Attacks the TBN network deals with...

...and STILL Stays Online 24/7/365



The AJAX Front is a bit odd at first and it does at times cause timeouts in FF (but thats on the browser side).

The AJAX front was a necessary sacrifice for system security... I honestly can't remember when TBN has ever been down except for the occasional server reboot.


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Old 07-27-2008, 10:21 AM   #26
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Poor slacker.Ok i will notify those people about dropping trade.Btw there is strange thing too,i have one alert which alerts me how i dropped trade and i clicked on drop trade and nothing happening.Any idea why is that ?
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Thunder ball is superb!! The best FREE (yes free) service I have the pleasure to use!! Keep up the good work Mr Bond!!
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Thunder ball is superb!! The best FREE (yes free) service I have the pleasure to use!! Keep up the good work Mr Bond!!
And funny thing your profile there is totaly shitlisted
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I love thunder-ball and have told potential linkpartners to sign up with thunder-ball if they want to trade with me.

Bond I have sent you the names of some partners with fake pagerank through icq last week. I hope you received it?
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i tried it once a couple years back, and wasn't into it. a partner recommended i try again a couple months ago and i got a couple trades, still didn't do it for me though. if it doesn't work for you just drop it. apparently there are people who are happy with things as they stand.
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Last time pr updated this was the case.
I understand the system needs some time to reflect these changes though as their are a lot of domains involved.
Best to be patient.
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I just check my profile and noticed that the most recent page rank update is already showing up, for my domains on my TB profile.
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:35 PM   #45
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I stopped using it months ago mainly because one guy kept redirecting his site. So naturally, I shit listed the guy and removed his link from my site. Only to have them shit list me back and call me a cheating asshole..
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:39 PM   #46
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I stopped using it months ago mainly because one guy kept redirecting his site. So naturally, I shit listed the guy and removed his link from my site. Only to have them shit list me back and call me a cheating asshole..
yeah when he started listing the people that made the complaint was a bad idea. You should have the option "Before it goes public" to resolve the issue

if it can't be resolved then list everything. I like the service I think he does a great job but I do wonder how much time he spends in "adult" and even has somebody that can moderate those things ...
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:46 PM   #47
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Just reminding everybody that this is a free service.
And for me it has a lot of value....
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:57 PM   #48
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Just reminding everybody that this is a free service.
And for me it has a lot of value....
Someone could open paid service.After all there is tons of link exchange sites with paid subscription in mainstream.
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Old 07-27-2008, 07:00 PM   #49
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Someone could open paid service.After all there is tons of link exchange sites with paid subscription in mainstream.
Feel free.
Seeing the rules you play by I wont join though.
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Old 07-27-2008, 08:50 PM   #50
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Yo Thanks for all the Support Folks... Much Appreciated!

The system does what it was designed to do: Help Legit People find Legit Trades... and keep Permanent Track of shitty people and their domains.

It is now much harder for cheaters to just hop around and waste your time.
( something I'm sure EVERYONE Can relate to)


We are working on the FF compatibility issues (FF3 was not out when we did the current front-end).

Google PR now changes on a constant basis. Before it was about every 3-4 months and all we had to do was run an update over 5-7 days. But now we must update constantly and Google limits the amount of PR requests so we can't do it as fast as we used to.

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