Producers BE AWARE of MAGNUSBUCKS - GoFuckYourself.com

YellowDude · 07-30-2008, 10:32 PM

I hate to bring this up here but ask if you shoot FOR them a down payment of 100% there they don't pay !!

We shoot o lot for them: www.magnusbucks.com and they start with good payments but after that they found excuses to delay. My father is taking care of the payments buy he broke a leg, he is no here now he is at the dentist, I'm currently out of the city, I will pay you next week, bla bla bla.

The first DVD the bought from us ended up in the 15th place od the most selling DVD's in the USA.

We are sending them almost daily an email but they never got the email or there is missing a part. Sorry my partner Roupen did not confirm the content and fedex says online, delivered signed by bla bla. But always I have to run I come back in a hour.

We tried to tlak with them over ICQ - MSN and Roupen is blaming Steven, no I will talk with him but Steven has always an excuse ro be out of the office:

Last part invoice Magnus 011 dated 28th of May 2008 USD $ 1.750,00
Magnus 012 dated 30th of May 2008 USD $ 2.860,00
Magnus 013 dated 2nd of June 2008 USD $ 2.860,00
Bankingcosts last 2 payments USD $ 24,00

Total amount due USD $ 7.494,00

If we don't get our money in a week we start a proces and we will point out where they are reselling our content.

WE DID OUR WORK - SO PAY US !!!!!

commonsense · 07-30-2008, 10:35 PM

If they aren't paying producers then affiliates are sure to follow.

Sig spot

clickyoucutie · 07-30-2008, 11:14 PM

Hope it gets resolved!

jact · 07-30-2008, 11:25 PM

Well those names seem familiar. They fucked me over repeatedly. Douchebags would be too kind to classify these characters.

jact · 07-30-2008, 11:27 PM

oh and they completely violate their licenses, if you gave them web rights, you'll find it on DVD.. if you gave them DVD rights, you'll find it all over the web... Did I mention DOUCHEBAGS?

Phil · 07-30-2008, 11:28 PM

this should stay on top..

YellowDude · 07-30-2008, 11:31 PM

well they knocked on the wrong door.... I go after them

Violetta · 07-30-2008, 11:33 PM

never heard of magnusbucks before... Good luck on getting your money!

YellowDude · 07-30-2008, 11:48 PM

I will get it.. Thtas for sure

YellowDude · 07-31-2008, 08:25 AM

Bump for me ....

the alchemist · 07-31-2008, 08:36 AM

Thanks for the heads up man, hope you get your money.

commonsense · 07-31-2008, 08:38 AM

No response yet from them eh? No traffic to Magnusbucks until they work this out. They handle their own payouts, so if they are fucking over their content guys they will definitely fuck affiliates.

Jens Van Assterdam · 07-31-2008, 08:52 AM

Good luck dood!

YellowDude · 07-31-2008, 08:58 AM

tony286 · 07-31-2008, 09:00 AM

do they post here?

Trixxxia · 07-31-2008, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

do they post here?

They officially launched this week on GFY if my memory serves *but they've been open since 2007 I think*

acrylix · 07-31-2008, 09:39 AM

Interesting thread. I started promoting their Females On Shemales site (femalesonshemales.com) several months ago, as I've had very targeted SE traffic looking for shemale lesbians, shemales fucking girls, etc. After three months of sending this traffic to a tour devoted to exclusive content of shemales fucking girls...my ratio is 1:2680 (3 sales/0 rebills).

Now I see they may be having trouble paying producers? Wonder if I should bother wasting anymore traffic in order to make my minimum payout.

JFK · 07-31-2008, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YellowDude

well they knocked on the wrong door.... I go after them

best of luck with it

Nikki_Licks · 07-31-2008, 10:32 AM

Thanks for the info.

and a bump for you

YellowDude · 07-31-2008, 10:54 AM

You see how lame they are, they took down the links directly

Inter-Sex · 07-31-2008, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YellowDude

You see how lame they are, they took down the links directly

No, in this thread they are working, the links, in you other thread not, cause you copy and paste didnt go fine. ;)

Lykos · 07-31-2008, 11:11 AM

Hmmm very strange if you ask me.I'v been working with Steven in last 3 years,i shoted probably more then 1000 scenes only for him,both straight and gay and ALWAYS get paind and pre-paid on time,am sure there was some miss-understanding on both sides and that this will be solved nicely and good for both sides.Really not something i would expect from them,they show to be stand-up company to me.

YellowDude · 07-31-2008, 11:20 AM

Good for you... the ony thing I want is my $$$

YellowDude · 07-31-2008, 11:25 AM

Btw did you shoot or did they buy from the contentstore you have?

Lykos · 07-31-2008, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YellowDude

Btw did you shoot or did they buy from the contentstore you have?

I shot exclusive custom and never ever had any problem with paying so am sure you had some miss understanding and that u will solve this fast.

klaze · 07-31-2008, 11:29 AM

Posting on GFY is the internet's version of breaking someone's legs.

YellowDude · 07-31-2008, 11:45 AM

They broke my legs and after 100 promises, I guess I am in my rigjt. I told "I hate to brin this up" but enough is enough

Fatdog · 07-31-2008, 11:56 AM

Hi this is Steven from Magnusbucks. I just wanted to clear up a few things that Yellowdude conveniently left out because it would make his side of the argument look bad. I personally do not like bringing drama to the boards. I see this as a last resort, not some sort of threat tool. It invites too many sided opinions about a situation that is usually too complex to be put into a few paragraphs. And as our explanation hopefully shows this situation is exactly that.

First off, when our relationship with Exxclusive started, we made special payment agreements with them. They were flexible with their prices and their schedule for payment which was a big plus and for the first few orders everything was going relatively smoothly. Sometimes a few days late but then no big deal.

Now the problems start. We started putting a lot of our confidence in them only to find out they are not as flawless as they made themselves seem.

-The once agreed upon payment terms suddenly became unacceptable to them as they started demanding money before it was due.

-The orders we placed with them only got partially shot and they started demanding partial payments for them. We placed a 4-scene MILF order with them for a DVD we were making. 3 of the scenes got shipped and it took almost a month for the 4th scene to show up. When we first started placing orders we made the agreement that the whole order needs to show up in one piece because partial packages aren't any use to us. This was also not the only order that arrived partially this way.

-They once shot 5 extra gay scenes for us that we did not need. We took the scenes anyway and asked if we could have a few weeks to pay for it since it was not in our content budget yet. But even the next week after we already saw them asking for payment on these scenes that we didn't even order or necessarily need.

-Many, many times our deadlines with them were broken. With every order we would give them a due date and ask if they could meet the order by this due date. The due date was there because if we received the content on that day or earlier we would not be late with our production which would save us from late fees. And if they could not meet the deadline it was not a big deal, we have 3 or 4 other producers who shoot for us who we could have given the order to. We just preferred to give them the orders because of the slightly lower price. When deadlines came and passed, we got just as many excuses from them as they claimed from us: They were out of the office and the office manager forgot to ship the package (for a week). "Administration" held the package because they were waiting for a wire to show up for an amount that we did not even owe them at that time. Models didn't show up and they could not find a new one for a week or two. And, my favorite, they got a new client who was prepaying for scenes so their scenes took priority over shooting ours (sorry if the payment plan you agreed on with us was not good enough for you). We placed an order once for 5 shemale scenes that they swore up and down promised would get delivered to us the week after. Because this was when we REALLY needed these scenes. We were more than willing to give it to our other producer who could have shot it for us on time. The next week we hear our scenes were going to ship out on time, but on the day we were supposed to receive them there was no package. When we asked for a tracking #, one of the Exxclusive reps told us that the package had shipped and we would get send the tracking number ASAP. The next day, another Exxclusive rep told us the package had not shipped and that the scenes needed to be "color corrected". After waiting for these scenes another week and a half, we finally broke down and told them to send us the scenes without the color correction. Sure enough when we got the scenes there was nothing wrong with them. I still have no idea why they held on to these scenes several weeks after we had asked them to send it to us. But that didn't stop it from costing us almost $2000 in late fees to get our DVDs produced and shipped out to our distributors on time.

-Incomplete 2257 - We all know the government is breathing down all our backs to make sure we are in line. We make sure to illustrate to all our producers that proper model releases and IDs are the most important part of a scene. Without this we cannot do anything with that scene. However we had scenes from even December 2007 that we did not get IDs for until June 2008. Yet they were more than willing to threaten and demand for their money for these movies before then of course.

-Bad Information - It is one thing for a producer to say that they are late on something so that we can make plans for this, but it is another for them to say that a package has been shipped out when it hasn't. This happened all too often where Person A would say that a package had gone out, and then the next week we'd hear from Person B that the tapes had some sort of problem to them and that they would be shipped the week after. When we would try to ask Person B why Person A had said the tapes had not shipped out we would just get a reply like "I don't know why he said that". Or "He must have heard wrong". That doesn't do us a lot of good.

Every time they would make apologies and want to do whatever possible to get things back on track. Bringing us new promises that Person A would no longer be involved in organizing the shoots and instead Person B would be taking care of it and if Person B was taking care of it then the same problems would not happen. Everytime I tried to complain and point out their lies to them their response was that I was acting "childish". Childish in their dictionary is synonymous for not rolling over and letting them exploit you.

In the end, our schedule got so screwed up and we had to pay so many rush fees, delivery charges, overnight shipping charges, you name it all because they kept breaking their word. I could have paid double for most of the scenes and if I had gotten them on time I would have ended up losing less money than shooting with Exxclusive. We eventually concluded that our relationship with them had to come to an end and that we needed to part ways. There was some money owed to them but we established a payment plan to give them all the money that was owed to them over time regardless of the tens of thousands of dollars they had cost us with their broken commitments.

Now we have producers who we have shot with for years. They keep their word, do what they are going to say and we pay them when we say we are going to pay them. We tried this with Exxclusive but they could just not be counted on. But not once did we take our problems to the boards. When our content was almost a month late, GFY didn't hear about this, we kept persisting with them until we got what we needed. For all that we went through with them and even the fact that my partner left them a message yesterday saying we would talk this over today and come up with a solution, they still chose to post on the boards and make themselves seem like a victim.

Producers we will always pay. We have several producers that shoot for us now and they are all happy to receive our wires.

Affiliates we will always pay. There is no point in being in business if your main source of business does not trust in you. We have not a single affiliate that can complain about not receiving a payment.

We are not the only ones who have had problems with Exxclusive. You can check out this post too:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=839715

jact · 07-31-2008, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatdog

Hi this is Steven from Magnusbucks. I just wanted to clear up a few things that Yellowdude conveniently left out because it would make his side of the argument look bad. I personally do not like bringing drama to the boards. I see this as a last resort, not some sort of threat tool. It invites too many sided opinions about a situation that is usually too complex to be put into a few paragraphs. And as our explanation hopefully shows this situation is exactly that.

First off, when our relationship with Exxclusive started, we made special payment agreements with them. They were flexible with their prices and their schedule for payment which was a big plus and for the first few orders everything was going relatively smoothly. Sometimes a few days late but then no big deal.

Now the problems start. We started putting a lot of our confidence in them only to find out they are not as flawless as they made themselves seem.

-The once agreed upon payment terms suddenly became unacceptable to them as they started demanding money before it was due.

-The orders we placed with them only got partially shot and they started demanding partial payments for them. We placed a 4-scene MILF order with them for a DVD we were making. 3 of the scenes got shipped and it took almost a month for the 4th scene to show up. When we first started placing orders we made the agreement that the whole order needs to show up in one piece because partial packages aren't any use to us. This was also not the only order that arrived partially this way.

-They once shot 5 extra gay scenes for us that we did not need. We took the scenes anyway and asked if we could have a few weeks to pay for it since it was not in our content budget yet. But even the next week after we already saw them asking for payment on these scenes that we didn't even order or necessarily need.

-Many, many times our deadlines with them were broken. With every order we would give them a due date and ask if they could meet the order by this due date. The due date was there because if we received the content on that day or earlier we would not be late with our production which would save us from late fees. And if they could not meet the deadline it was not a big deal, we have 3 or 4 other producers who shoot for us who we could have given the order to. We just preferred to give them the orders because of the slightly lower price. When deadlines came and passed, we got just as many excuses from them as they claimed from us: They were out of the office and the office manager forgot to ship the package (for a week). "Administration" held the package because they were waiting for a wire to show up for an amount that we did not even owe them at that time. Models didn't show up and they could not find a new one for a week or two. And, my favorite, they got a new client who was prepaying for scenes so their scenes took priority over shooting ours (sorry if the payment plan you agreed on with us was not good enough for you). We placed an order once for 5 shemale scenes that they swore up and down promised would get delivered to us the week after. Because this was when we REALLY needed these scenes. We were more than willing to give it to our other producer who could have shot it for us on time. The next week we hear our scenes were going to ship out on time, but on the day we were supposed to receive them there was no package. When we asked for a tracking #, one of the Exxclusive reps told us that the package had shipped and we would get send the tracking number ASAP. The next day, another Exxclusive rep told us the package had not shipped and that the scenes needed to be "color corrected". After waiting for these scenes another week and a half, we finally broke down and told them to send us the scenes without the color correction. Sure enough when we got the scenes there was nothing wrong with them. I still have no idea why they held on to these scenes several weeks after we had asked them to send it to us. But that didn't stop it from costing us almost $2000 in late fees to get our DVDs produced and shipped out to our distributors on time.

-Incomplete 2257 - We all know the government is breathing down all our backs to make sure we are in line. We make sure to illustrate to all our producers that proper model releases and IDs are the most important part of a scene. Without this we cannot do anything with that scene. However we had scenes from even December 2007 that we did not get IDs for until June 2008. Yet they were more than willing to threaten and demand for their money for these movies before then of course.

-Bad Information - It is one thing for a producer to say that they are late on something so that we can make plans for this, but it is another for them to say that a package has been shipped out when it hasn't. This happened all too often where Person A would say that a package had gone out, and then the next week we'd hear from Person B that the tapes had some sort of problem to them and that they would be shipped the week after. When we would try to ask Person B why Person A had said the tapes had not shipped out we would just get a reply like "I don't know why he said that". Or "He must have heard wrong". That doesn't do us a lot of good.

Every time they would make apologies and want to do whatever possible to get things back on track. Bringing us new promises that Person A would no longer be involved in organizing the shoots and instead Person B would be taking care of it and if Person B was taking care of it then the same problems would not happen. Everytime I tried to complain and point out their lies to them their response was that I was acting "childish". Childish in their dictionary is synonymous for not rolling over and letting them exploit you.

In the end, our schedule got so screwed up and we had to pay so many rush fees, delivery charges, overnight shipping charges, you name it all because they kept breaking their word. I could have paid double for most of the scenes and if I had gotten them on time I would have ended up losing less money than shooting with Exxclusive. We eventually concluded that our relationship with them had to come to an end and that we needed to part ways. There was some money owed to them but we established a payment plan to give them all the money that was owed to them over time regardless of the tens of thousands of dollars they had cost us with their broken commitments.

Now we have producers who we have shot with for years. They keep their word, do what they are going to say and we pay them when we say we are going to pay them. We tried this with Exxclusive but they could just not be counted on. But not once did we take our problems to the boards. When our content was almost a month late, GFY didn't hear about this, we kept persisting with them until we got what we needed. For all that we went through with them and even the fact that my partner left them a message yesterday saying we would talk this over today and come up with a solution, they still chose to post on the boards and make themselves seem like a victim.

Producers we will always pay. We have several producers that shoot for us now and they are all happy to receive our wires.

Affiliates we will always pay. There is no point in being in business if your main source of business does not trust in you. We have not a single affiliate that can complain about not receiving a payment.

We are not the only ones who have had problems with Exxclusive. You can check out this post too:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=839715

Since you're looking for dirt on him, why don't I share some on you?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=688709

How are VOD sales on the content you have no web rights to, douchebag?

YellowDude · 07-31-2008, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatdog

Hi this is Steven from Magnusbucks. I just wanted to clear up a few things that Yellowdude conveniently left out because it would make his side of the argument look bad. I personally do not like bringing drama to the boards. I see this as a last resort, not some sort of threat tool. It invites too many sided opinions about a situation that is usually too complex to be put into a few paragraphs. And as our explanation hopefully shows this situation is exactly that.

First off, when our relationship with Exxclusive started, we made special payment agreements with them. They were flexible with their prices and their schedule for payment which was a big plus and for the first few orders everything was going relatively smoothly. Sometimes a few days late but then no big deal.

Now the problems start. We started putting a lot of our confidence in them only to find out they are not as flawless as they made themselves seem.

-The once agreed upon payment terms suddenly became unacceptable to them as they started demanding money before it was due.

-The orders we placed with them only got partially shot and they started demanding partial payments for them. We placed a 4-scene MILF order with them for a DVD we were making. 3 of the scenes got shipped and it took almost a month for the 4th scene to show up. When we first started placing orders we made the agreement that the whole order needs to show up in one piece because partial packages aren't any use to us. This was also not the only order that arrived partially this way.

-They once shot 5 extra gay scenes for us that we did not need. We took the scenes anyway and asked if we could have a few weeks to pay for it since it was not in our content budget yet. But even the next week after we already saw them asking for payment on these scenes that we didn't even order or necessarily need.

-Many, many times our deadlines with them were broken. With every order we would give them a due date and ask if they could meet the order by this due date. The due date was there because if we received the content on that day or earlier we would not be late with our production which would save us from late fees. And if they could not meet the deadline it was not a big deal, we have 3 or 4 other producers who shoot for us who we could have given the order to. We just preferred to give them the orders because of the slightly lower price. When deadlines came and passed, we got just as many excuses from them as they claimed from us: They were out of the office and the office manager forgot to ship the package (for a week). "Administration" held the package because they were waiting for a wire to show up for an amount that we did not even owe them at that time. Models didn't show up and they could not find a new one for a week or two. And, my favorite, they got a new client who was prepaying for scenes so their scenes took priority over shooting ours (sorry if the payment plan you agreed on with us was not good enough for you). We placed an order once for 5 shemale scenes that they swore up and down promised would get delivered to us the week after. Because this was when we REALLY needed these scenes. We were more than willing to give it to our other producer who could have shot it for us on time. The next week we hear our scenes were going to ship out on time, but on the day we were supposed to receive them there was no package. When we asked for a tracking #, one of the Exxclusive reps told us that the package had shipped and we would get send the tracking number ASAP. The next day, another Exxclusive rep told us the package had not shipped and that the scenes needed to be "color corrected". After waiting for these scenes another week and a half, we finally broke down and told them to send us the scenes without the color correction. Sure enough when we got the scenes there was nothing wrong with them. I still have no idea why they held on to these scenes several weeks after we had asked them to send it to us. But that didn't stop it from costing us almost $2000 in late fees to get our DVDs produced and shipped out to our distributors on time.

-Incomplete 2257 - We all know the government is breathing down all our backs to make sure we are in line. We make sure to illustrate to all our producers that proper model releases and IDs are the most important part of a scene. Without this we cannot do anything with that scene. However we had scenes from even December 2007 that we did not get IDs for until June 2008. Yet they were more than willing to threaten and demand for their money for these movies before then of course.

-Bad Information - It is one thing for a producer to say that they are late on something so that we can make plans for this, but it is another for them to say that a package has been shipped out when it hasn't. This happened all too often where Person A would say that a package had gone out, and then the next week we'd hear from Person B that the tapes had some sort of problem to them and that they would be shipped the week after. When we would try to ask Person B why Person A had said the tapes had not shipped out we would just get a reply like "I don't know why he said that". Or "He must have heard wrong". That doesn't do us a lot of good.

Every time they would make apologies and want to do whatever possible to get things back on track. Bringing us new promises that Person A would no longer be involved in organizing the shoots and instead Person B would be taking care of it and if Person B was taking care of it then the same problems would not happen. Everytime I tried to complain and point out their lies to them their response was that I was acting "childish". Childish in their dictionary is synonymous for not rolling over and letting them exploit you.

In the end, our schedule got so screwed up and we had to pay so many rush fees, delivery charges, overnight shipping charges, you name it all because they kept breaking their word. I could have paid double for most of the scenes and if I had gotten them on time I would have ended up losing less money than shooting with Exxclusive. We eventually concluded that our relationship with them had to come to an end and that we needed to part ways. There was some money owed to them but we established a payment plan to give them all the money that was owed to them over time regardless of the tens of thousands of dollars they had cost us with their broken commitments.

Now we have producers who we have shot with for years. They keep their word, do what they are going to say and we pay them when we say we are going to pay them. We tried this with Exxclusive but they could just not be counted on. But not once did we take our problems to the boards. When our content was almost a month late, GFY didn't hear about this, we kept persisting with them until we got what we needed. For all that we went through with them and even the fact that my partner left them a message yesterday saying we would talk this over today and come up with a solution, they still chose to post on the boards and make themselves seem like a victim.

Producers we will always pay. We have several producers that shoot for us now and they are all happy to receive our wires.

Affiliates we will always pay. There is no point in being in business if your main source of business does not trust in you. We have not a single affiliate that can complain about not receiving a payment.

We are not the only ones who have had problems with Exxclusive. You can check out this post too:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=839715

This is complete BULL, you have all ID's and content, sure sometimes you get a delay when models are nor showing up. The problem is that you dont produce and dont know how things ar working on sets. We shot a LOT for you na one time a delay with a fat women becourse YOU wanted that women and we could not find her.

Just pay your depts and we are even! Ans stop suckin things ut of your tumb there are lot of other people here on the board we are shooting for without any problems.

biskoppen · 07-31-2008, 12:13 PM

bump..........

YellowDude · 07-31-2008, 12:14 PM

Now we have producers who we have shot with for years. They keep their word, do what they are going to say and we pay them when we say we are going to pay them. We tried this with Exxclusive but they could just not be counted on. But not once did we take our problems to the boards. When our content was almost a month late, GFY didn't hear about this, we kept persisting with them until we got what we needed. For all that we went through with them and even the fact that my partner left them a message yesterday saying we would talk this over today and come up with a solution, they still chose to post on the boards and make themselves seem like a victim.

Men give me a break you are sayng this for monhs

commonsense · 07-31-2008, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jact

Since you're looking for dirt on him, why don't I share some on you?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=688709

How are VOD sales on the content you have no web rights to, douchebag?

Wait a minute, Magnusbucks is associated with Steven and Blaine from Damaged?

Black_Widow · 07-31-2008, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jact

Since you're looking for dirt on him, why don't I share some on you?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=688709

How are VOD sales on the content you have no web rights to, douchebag?

What a scum!

jact · 07-31-2008, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense

Wait a minute, Magnusbucks is associated with Steven and Blaine from Damaged?

I don't know about Blaine, but Steven yes.

YellowDude · 07-31-2008, 04:44 PM

He is talking now with his partnet to come up with a solution, lets see.

Manowar · 07-31-2008, 05:40 PM

Bump for you dude

Barefootsies · 07-31-2008, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense

If they aren't paying producers then affiliates are sure to follow.

Sig spot

Barefootsies · 07-31-2008, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lykos

Hmmm very strange if you ask me.I'v been working with Steven in last 3 years,i shoted probably more then 1000 scenes only for him,both straight and gay and ALWAYS get paind and pre-paid on time,am sure there was some miss-understanding on both sides and that this will be solved nicely and good for both sides.Really not something i would expect from them,they show to be stand-up company to me.

But are they top notch A++, bro certified....

Juicy D. Links · 07-31-2008, 08:31 PM

hot content nice stuff

YellowDude · 07-31-2008, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

hot content nice stuff

There are we standing for !

Sebastian Sands · 07-31-2008, 09:30 PM

I never pick up a camera unless I have my money, most shooters have a good enough reputation and have more to loose if they don't deliver.

All my clients also understand that shooters deal with talent, and when you deal with talent.. well anything can happen, but my clients always get the ordered content, maybe not on the day they like but that is how it goes with talent.

YellowDude · 07-31-2008, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands

I never pick up a camera unless I have my money, most shooters have a good enough reputation and have more to loose if they don't deliver.

All my clients also understand that shooters deal with talent, and when you deal with talent.. well anything can happen, but my clients always get the ordered content, maybe not on the day they like but that is how it goes with talent.

Seems to be that you understand it

YellowDude · 07-31-2008, 11:33 PM

No news so far.....

yahoo-xxx-girls.com · 07-31-2008, 11:39 PM

Hope you get your money... It sucks to get ripped off... I know.

commonsense · 08-01-2008, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jact

I don't know about Blaine, but Steven yes.

Holy fuck ... thanks for the heads up. I won't touch anything they're involved with, EVER. They are legendary for fucking over people on the DVD end of the business. SHADY SHADY motherfuckers.

This has been a good thread.

YellowDude · 08-01-2008, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense

Holy fuck ... thanks for the heads up. I won't touch anything they're involved with, EVER. They are legendary for fucking over people on the DVD end of the business. SHADY SHADY motherfuckers.

This has been a good thread.

Never knew that..... thats why they asked me if I had a solution with a server in Brazil or offshore where they could sell content that was forbidden or to hot for the USA.

The puzzle is falling

Bhunter · 08-01-2008, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands

I never pick up a camera unless I have my money, most shooters have a good enough reputation and have more to loose if they don't deliver.

All my clients also understand that shooters deal with talent, and when you deal with talent.. well anything can happen, but my clients always get the ordered content, maybe not on the day they like but that is how it goes with talent.

Amen to that.

And in a small country like Netherlands where talent is scarce and often not professional it's a race against the clock to deliver the product on time.

YellowDude · 08-01-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bhunter

Amen to that.

And in a small country like Netherlands where talent is scarce and often not professional it's a race against the clock to deliver the product on time.

Same here, how may times we where ready and the model did not show up, geez.

Very common.

vidvicious · 08-01-2008, 09:49 AM

this shit happens all too often .. I myself had this happen to me this month .. after 6 - 7 months of production and post .. The fuckers decide not to pay anymore ... I hate this shit it seems to happen every 6-8 months to me ~

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