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Old 08-03-2008, 02:37 PM   #1
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The History of Adult on Internet (timeline)

- The end of Pay per click programs
- TGPs
- Dialers
- SMS billing
- iBill fiasco
- Mastercard $1000 fee
- Acacia (streaming video patent)
- *.XXX domain names
- 2257 Law
- Tube sites
- Cross sales

Ok I have made a small lists of the bigger topics in our industry which have occured and crossed my mind. Lets see or we can create a complete list and possibly with year dates.
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Old 08-03-2008, 02:42 PM   #2
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i would think the start was bbs photo swapping
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Old 08-03-2008, 02:42 PM   #3
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- The end of Pay per click programs
- TGPs
- Dialers
- SMS billing
- iBill fiasco
- Mastercard $1000 fee
- Acacia (streaming video patent)
- *.XXX domain names
- 2257 Law
- Tube sites
- Cross sales

Ok I have made a small lists of the bigger topics in our industry which have occured and crossed my mind. Lets see or we can create a complete list and possibly with year dates.
I really think it should say

PPC programs
CJ, Dialers and Exit Chains
CJII (clean fake TGPs)
TGP's
..
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Old 08-03-2008, 02:43 PM   #4
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freehost era should be in there too
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Old 08-03-2008, 02:50 PM   #5
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- The end of Pay per click programs
- TGPs
- Dialers
- SMS billing
- iBill fiasco
- Mastercard $1000 fee
- Acacia (streaming video patent)
- *.XXX domain names
- 2257 Law
- Tube sites
- Cross sales

Ok I have made a small lists of the bigger topics in our industry which have occured and crossed my mind. Lets see or we can create a complete list and possibly with year dates.
Where are the Circle Jerk sites? The infamous Zip code fiasco. Fuck, where's Crescent in this? How long have you been in this business?
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Old 08-03-2008, 02:53 PM   #6
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shit.. totally forgot about aol spamming, im spamming, ip spamming, and the list goes on..
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Old 08-03-2008, 02:57 PM   #7
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We didn't start the fire, it's been always burning, since the world's been turning. We didn't start the fire... no we didn't light it, but we're trying to fight it!
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- The end of Pay per click programs
- TGPs
- Dialers
- SMS billing
- iBill fiasco
- Mastercard $1000 fee
- Acacia (streaming video patent)
- *.XXX domain names
- 2257 Law
- Tube sites
- Cross sales
- MGP's
- IM/AOL spamming
- Newsgroups
- Babelogs
- Spyware (Zango, etc)
- Traffic Brokers
- CJ's
- P2P
- COPA
- Consolidation of Affil programs
- Splogs
....and the list goes on
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Old 08-03-2008, 03:36 PM   #9
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Old 08-03-2008, 03:39 PM   #10
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Old 08-04-2008, 06:16 AM   #12
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Updated list:

- BBS photo swapping
- Single page banner farms
- Free Web Hosts
- The end of Pay per click programs
- Dialers
- CJ's
- CJII (clean fake TGPs)
- TGPs
- SMS billing
- Globill fiasco
- iBill fiasco
- P2P
- MGP's
- Mastercard $1000 fee
- Traffic Brokers
- Acacia (streaming video patent)
- *.XXX domain names
- Blogs
- 2257 Law
- My Virtual Card
- Spyware (Zango, etc)
- Consolidation of Affil programs
- Tube sites
- Cross sales
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Old 08-04-2008, 06:18 AM   #13
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Where are the Circle Jerk sites? The infamous Zip code fiasco. Fuck, where's Crescent in this? How long have you been in this business?
Unfortunately I can't sum up all everything by head in 1 miunte. See the updated list.
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Old 08-04-2008, 06:22 AM   #14
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Old 08-04-2008, 06:23 AM   #15
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Add the proliferation of Yahoo clubs/groups and MSN communities that play(ed) a big part in illegally distributing copyrighted pics & vids.

Also Usenet newsgroups.
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Old 08-04-2008, 07:22 AM   #17
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Unfortunately I can't sum up all everything by head in 1 miunte. See the updated list.
You have cross sales as the last item... Cross sales have been around since 1999.
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Old 08-04-2008, 07:26 AM   #18
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Wow, no mention of Visa's new fee, regulations and 1% cb rule?

How about Amex and Paypal's denial to process adult?
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No Zango yet?

DMR - DMR imploded in December 1999, going out of business owing webmasters an estimated $80 million to $100 million.

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Nothing about EPOCH/Paycom with the fees back in 1999/2000?

I would think that if you start a thread like this, you would have some knowledge of the timeline.
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exactly what I was going to post
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Old 08-04-2008, 08:00 AM   #22
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What about good stufff? Introduction of Bang Bus and reality sites. Before that AVS as a way for solo girls and others to sell stuff. Intro of $1 per email programs. Can spam.
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Old 08-04-2008, 08:03 AM   #23
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- BBS photo swapping
- Single page banner farms
- Newsgroups
- Free Web Hosts
- The end of Pay per click programs
- Dialers
- CJ's
- CJII (clean fake TGPs)
- TGPs
- SMS billing
- Globill fiasco
- iBill fiasco
- Paypal closes porn accounts
- TGP2
- P2P
- MGP's
- DRM video
- Mastercard/Visa $1000 fee & 1% chargeback rule
- Traffic Brokers
- Acacia (streaming video patent)
- *.XXX domain names
- Blogs
- 2257 Law
- My Virtual Card
- Zango/Spyware
- Consolidation of Affiliate programs
- Tube sites
- Cross sales
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Old 08-04-2008, 08:09 AM   #24
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- BBS photo swapping
- Single page banner farms
- Newsgroups
- Free Web Hosts
- The end of Pay per click programs
- Dialers
- CJ's
- CJII (clean fake TGPs)
- TGPs
- SMS billing
- Globill fiasco
- iBill fiasco
- Paypal closes porn accounts
- TGP2
- P2P
- MGP's
- DRM video
- Mastercard/Visa $1000 fee & 1% chargeback rule
- Traffic Brokers
- Acacia (streaming video patent)
- *.XXX domain names
- Blogs
- 2257 Law
- My Virtual Card
- Zango/Spyware
- Torrents and DDL distribution of entire sites and DVDs
- Consolidation of Affiliate programs
- Tube sites
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Nothing about EPOCH/Paycom with the fees back in 1999/2000?

I would think that if you start a thread like this, you would have some knowledge of the timeline.
give the guy a break, there's a lot of bullshit to remember
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All tounge in cheek, I would forget a shitload myself, and was involved with alot of it.
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Old 08-04-2008, 10:58 AM   #31
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Here are a few out of order points for this timeline. These are pretty important events, regardless of what you may think.

Network Solutions starts charging for domains
Network Solutions loses retail monopoly and domains resold through other registrars
DMR
Pam and Tommy released
Exit Consoles
Thumb tgp's replacing text tgp's
Skimming traffic from TGP's via blind links
Crescent
Ken Taves / Charter Pacific
Like Whoa Meltdown
Pornication Partner Breakup
Yahoo requires paid inclusion for adult
Cogent appears and cuts bandwidth costs industry wide
DSL rollout
Cablemodem rollout
Gig E appears
Cascading billing appears
Geotargeting ads
Geotargeting billers
Digital cameras replace film
HD
FLV
Microsoft announces free video encoder
CUSEEME
Hotmail - email for masses without a monthly fee
Juno/Netzero
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You forgot DMR and xpics.

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That was back when you asked someone what a modem was for and they would reply "for connecting to AOL". lol
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That's sweet, a little recap of fun times... for some.
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- BBS photo swapping
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- Xpics fraud drama
- Newsgroups
- Free Web Hosts
- Exit consoles
- The end of Pay per click programs
- Dialers
- CJ's
- CJII (clean fake TGPs)
- TGPs
- SMS billing
- Thumb tgp's replacing text tgp's
- Globill fiasco
- iBill fiasco
- Paypal closes porn accounts
- TGP2
- P2P
- HD video hype
- MGP's
- DRM video
- Mastercard/Visa $1000 fee & 1% chargeback rule
- Traffic Brokers
- GEO IP ads/traffic
- Like Whoa Meltdown
- Acacia (streaming video patent)
- *.XXX domain names
- Blogs
- 2257 Law
- My Virtual Card
- Zango/Spyware
- Consolidation of Affiliate programs
- Tube sites
- Cross sales
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Somebody who likes to add the next 13 years?
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I could give you a whole book on the real history of adult online, starting from the very very beginning.

I won't do the entire thing here, but let me give a tiny clip:

In the beginning (1994-1995), there were a few adult web sites that hosted personal and/or favorite nudes and porn pics. Those sites would typically appear, be fun for a few days to a few weeks until people other than the creator of the site learned about them, they'd get a few hundred visitors, and then they'd get taken down.

They got taken down because these little personal sites would be hit with bandwidth bills for up to a couple hundred dollars (bandwidth was exxxxpensive and a few hundred visitors was a BIG site). Since there was no way to make money, they'd simply disappear. It was very hard to find good web sites in those early days, but there were a handful that would appear now and then.

So I got a 900# phone sex line and started the XPics Site of the Day, where I featured a quality web site each day. At the time, there were three players in the industry. Me (XPics), Persian Kitty (#2), and Serge - who kept putting up amazing free web site content!

At that time, there were no banners and no one to advertise. My phone sex line blew up, and I developed the first banner program and the first membership web site (Sex Roulette). Suddenly, free web sites could advertise, and they could pay the bills! As soon as my affiliate program went live, the number of free web sites exploded and the next 18 months were the heyday of early adult.

Then we get to Charter Pacific, Visa, and that's all a story for another day I suppose. But this above is how the real modern adult era of the web came to be...
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I remember initially getting into producing membership sites after I saw people scanning pages from my magazines and putting membership gates up.
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Any example of TGP2? Over the years many people talked about them but everybody has a different idea of them.
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Any example of TGP2? Over the years many people talked about them but everybody has a different idea of them.
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Old 11-05-2021, 06:18 AM   #47
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If we're adding specific adult processors (I still have PTSD from iBill), it might be fair to break out some of the most prominent tube sites.

PornHub and xHamster might deserve top level listing?

Also, I don't see any mention of the period during which Verotel tried to require them holding the domains of the actual member sites they were processing for. That was pretty weird.

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