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NatalieK · 09-07-2016, 12:12 PM

so PornHub, why would I want you to own my content & give me no permissions to reproduce my content?

anyone else having this problem?

Is this legal? Why would I give my content away & have no rights for my own content?

King Mark · 09-07-2016, 12:18 PM

Lol.....

Spunky · 09-07-2016, 12:19 PM

Don't let the man hold you down!

pornlaw · 09-07-2016, 12:20 PM

Not sure if that would work as an assignment of copyright under the various electronic signature laws around the world... but I wouldnt want to be arguing that is doesnt...

https://www.docusign.com/esign-act-and-ueta

j3rkules · 09-07-2016, 12:22 PM

Is it for real? Innovative way to "protect your content".

Colmike9 · 09-07-2016, 12:31 PM

But.. Those are amateur videos, like cell phone videos, that wouldn't legally be allowed normally because of 2257 and other things that individuals aren't going to be doing.

I don't agree with it, though...

Promote dating instead.

plaster · 09-07-2016, 12:31 PM

That's nice of them... they give you an account in exchange for all of you past, current and future content... sweet!!

sicone · 09-07-2016, 12:37 PM

Choose a different type of producer account instead of Amateur Payment Program. Maybe try content partner.

yuu.design · 09-07-2016, 12:38 PM

damn, that sucks!

NatalieK · 09-07-2016, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sicone

Choose a different type of producer account instead of Amateur Payment Program. Maybe try content partner.

yeah, been meaning to change it to the partnership program. I take it this doesn't ask for this copyright?

Bank18 · 09-07-2016, 12:55 PM

but it's illegal..

CaptainHowdy · 09-07-2016, 01:17 PM

Motherfuckers.

Barry-xlovecam · 09-07-2016, 01:20 PM

It looks like a limited assignment of copyright. (Partial assignment?)
It applies to free sites only, sites of Pornhub's kind -- other tubes ...

''on any free user-generated sites or platforms'' estoppel by agreement of some consideration. The action of uploading in agreement with the new terms would create an estoppel of barring the use the uploaded content ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms''.

You are not transferring any ownership of the content only agreeing to Pornhub's exclusive use ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms''.

What exactly ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms'' means is rather vague -- it may not be very binding. For example, if you had your own forum as part of your business -- you may not not be able to use that content only verbatim in its entirety -- big loophole that you might be able drive a truck through.

That is the way I see the intention -- without going into Pornhub's rational in the matter.

brassmonkey · 09-07-2016, 01:29 PM

it's a good deal if they give you ad space of the videos and the dcma deal

NatalieK · 09-07-2016, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

It looks like a limited assignment of copyright. (Partial assignment?)
It applies to free sites only, sites of Pornhub's kind -- other tubes ...

''on any free user-generated sites or platforms'' estoppel by agreement of some consideration. The action of uploading in agreement with the new terms would create an estoppel of barring the use the uploaded content ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms''.

You are not transferring any ownership of the content only agreeing to Pornhub's exclusive use ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms''.

What exactly ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms'' means is rather vague -- it may not be very binding. For example, if you had your own forum as part of your business -- you may not not be able to use that content only verbatim in its entirety -- big loophole that you might be able drive a truck through.

That is the way I see the intention -- without going into Pornhub's rational in the matter.

but as many users, I post my clips and partial movies if not full on this tube and others like xhamster, and already done. I'm certainly not going to remove any from other tubes.

Not understanding what they're saying

AMDWarrior · 09-07-2016, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

so PornHub, why would I want you to own my content & give me no permissions to reproduce my content?

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anyone else having this problem?

Is this legal? Why would I give my content away & have no rights for my own content?

No one wants your shitty content..

AdultKing · 09-07-2016, 04:29 PM

Nobody is forcing people to participate in this program.

I don't see a problem with this. They're offering a free DMCA service and protecting your content.

You do realise that if you make two versions of one video and one is on Pornhub and the other is on XHamster then there won't be an issue ?

beerptrol · 09-07-2016, 04:43 PM

If you want to work with thieving cunts, don't be surprised when they try to ass fuck you in a bad way!

charlie g · 09-07-2016, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol

If you want to work with thieving cunts, don't be surprised when they try to ass fuck you in a bad way!

SBJ · 09-07-2016, 06:31 PM

adapt or die? does it fit here?

Sure I think those thieves should have the legal right to own the content posted on their mostly illegal site

Oh god I almost believed it myself.. I need more than 2 hours of fucking sleep

Speigelau · 09-07-2016, 10:05 PM

I think they will be able to achieve more with the content than you will, so just let them have it.

Mr.Fiction · 09-08-2016, 04:55 AM

Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own.

Paul&John · 09-08-2016, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction

Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own.

Klen · 09-08-2016, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction

Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own.

That is actually happening already, even in mainstream.

Barry-xlovecam · 09-08-2016, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

but as many users, I post my clips and partial movies if not full on this tube and others like xhamster, and already done. I'm certainly not going to remove any from other tubes.

Not understanding what they're saying

Pornhub's only realistic recourse is to cancel your account, not pay you and they might have established a right to the content and its use if this agreement (stipulation) is breached.

It's a real POS piece work but there may be a real ulterior motive here.

HowlingWulf · 09-08-2016, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction

Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own.

This will certainly be the problem. Don't see how they can 'win' anything when claiming they own something uploaded by someone who didn't own it in the first place.

2MuchMark · 09-08-2016, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

it's a good deal if they give you ad space of the videos and the dcma deal

LOL! Are you serious? That's a terrible deal.

I can understand if maybe, Gary & Nathalie were going to provide them content in exchange for traffic to their site TEMPORARILY, but this wording is PERMANENT. What if no traffic is provided or if the deal just doesn't work out? Gary & Nathalie should then be able to end this deal, re-gain their rights to their content, and look for someone new to work with, no?

Paul Markham · 09-08-2016, 07:35 AM

A serial thief is going to send DCMAs to sites where the owner of the content has uploaded it. Could it be more wrong?

Also, how do they know the person submitting the content is the owner?

NatalieK · 09-08-2016, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Nobody is forcing people to participate in this program.

I don't see a problem with this. They're offering a free DMCA service and protecting your content.

You do realise that if you make two versions of one video and one is on Pornhub and the other is on XHamster then there won't be an issue ?

after speaking with Brett from PornHub, seems the above is the case. PH are simply offering DMCA especially to models uploading specifically to PH, scanning the top 50 sites and issuing the DMCA if need

ruff · 09-08-2016, 08:48 AM

Fuck em and feed em beans.

Pornhub · 09-08-2016, 09:39 AM

Hi Everyone

To clarify about the program this is an optional service we are providing as part of our amateur payment program. this is geared to a portion of our users in the program who upload exclusively on Pornhub already and have requested help protecting their content from appearing on other free sites where they aren't getting paid. If you are someone that is already uploading your content to other free platforms this program is obviously not right for you. It is completely optional if you want to take advantage of this new service if you decline nothing changes.

Happy to answer any questions about the program and our new content protection service

romeo22 · 09-08-2016, 11:26 AM

oh that sucks big balls

plaster · 09-08-2016, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornhub

Hi Everyone

To clarify about the program this is an optional service we are providing as part of our amateur payment program. this is geared to a portion of our users in the program who upload exclusively on Pornhub already and have requested help protecting their content from appearing on other free sites where they aren't getting paid. If you are someone that is already uploading your content to other free platforms this program is obviously not right for you. It is completely optional if you want to take advantage of this new service if you decline nothing changes.

Happy to answer any questions about the program and our new content protection service

I'm fairly certain dmca agents do not require ownership of content to act on owners behalf. The warning light box popup is misleading to put it mildly.

Jigster715 · 09-08-2016, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction

Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own.

- Chris Mallick will be tapped to write the script and secure funding for the movie.

Naughty-Pages · 09-08-2016, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction

Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own.

I know right??

I already have enough issues with DMCA complaints to Google about legally obtained affiliate promo content.

And how is that going to work for THEIR affiliate content? They offer dumps for people to use on their tubes, is that going to be a similar headache?

Mediamix · 09-08-2016, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction

Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own.

I already have that problem on Youtube.

It's solved for now, but that was a real pain in my ass.

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