Hosting companies come in for some drama. - GoFuckYourself.com

MoreMagic · 08-07-2008, 06:23 AM

Webair, Way3, Phatservers, Hosthead, Isprime, NationalNet, Softlayer, Addora and Caro

Why are you guys not responding on my thread here, you don't want my bizz?
I need those offers in tha thread and not personal. Just call your price!

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-07-2008, 06:30 AM

Great thread...

Klen · 08-07-2008, 06:33 AM

Could be beacuse you need custom configuration which could require toomuch work to make it

IhostSEO · 08-07-2008, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Could be beacuse you need custom configuration which could require toomuch work to make it

Hit on the nail ... aside that setting up one IP per class C is more work... and that in no way would we do that for $1.00 per Ip.... not even $2.00 ...

baddog · 08-07-2008, 09:36 AM

Most hosting companies do not want to deal with your request. Especially the 1 IP per C. That we will do all day long on virtual servers, but keeping track of your request on a dedicated plan would be a nightmare.

MoreMagic · 08-07-2008, 11:03 AM

Lucky enough we have

Pacificrack,
Righthosting and yes even
Webair that do it.

LOL with the right price its almost a guaranteed order.

Way3 · 08-07-2008, 11:19 AM

We certainly would like your business, but for right now, the IP request is a deal killer for us. Sorry!

tranza · 08-07-2008, 11:28 AM

Useless post.............

Snake Doctor · 08-07-2008, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Most hosting companies do not want to deal with your request. Especially the 1 IP per C. That we will do all day long on virtual servers, but keeping track of your request on a dedicated plan would be a nightmare.

Would you explain to me why it's harder to do that on a dedicated server as opposed to a virtual?
You've mentioned that on here before.

Iron Fist · 08-07-2008, 11:36 AM

There's supposed to be drama here right? Can someone point me in the right direction?

baddog · 08-07-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Would you explain to me why it's harder to do that on a dedicated server as opposed to a virtual?
You've mentioned that on here before.

Record keeping primarily.

MoreMagic · 08-07-2008, 12:23 PM

Did I ask you to come ;)

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Originally Posted by sharphead

There's supposed to be drama here right? Can someone point me in the right direction?

MoreMagic · 08-07-2008, 12:25 PM

Nobody asked you to be here to

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Originally Posted by tranza

Useless post.............

Iron Fist · 08-07-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreMagic

Did I ask you to come ;)

Yes you did

I'm attracted to fake drama!

Snake Doctor · 08-07-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Record keeping primarily.

If I have a virtual account aren't all of my domains on one server then as well? So the difference is I'm either the only one on the server or I'm not....how does that change the assignment of IP's?

Not trying to start shit, just trying to understand.....because while I like the idea of one IP per C, I don't like the idea of shared hosting.

d-null · 08-07-2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Record keeping primarily.

can you expand on that a bit? curious...

GrouchyAdmin · 08-07-2008, 12:39 PM

I asked my bank for $5.00 in change, but I wanted each penny from a different roll. They said no. FUCK YOU BANK!

Snake Doctor · 08-07-2008, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

I asked my bank for $5.00 in change, but I wanted each penny from a different roll. They said no. FUCK YOU BANK!

That's a ridiculous analogy.

First of all, if you were willing to pay enough for them to do that, I'm sure they would accomodate you.

Second, there's no benefit to you getting change that way, there is a benefit to customers having IP's allocated a certain way.

GrouchyAdmin · 08-07-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

That's a ridiculous analogy.

First of all, if you were willing to pay enough for them to do that, I'm sure they would accomodate you.

Second, there's no benefit to you getting change that way, there is a benefit to customers having IP's allocated a certain way.

You're trying to support your own viewpoint, but you're doing so in exactly the form I was attempting to illustrate.

It does nothing for the bank, or the provider, to pander to someone who wants something super-custom right out of the gate, unless you're talking enough money to make it viable for not only your netengs, but the NOC to support it. A bank would be far more willing to inconvenience one of their employees to keep a customer happy than a hosting provider screwing up their internal topology - it's a hell of a lot easier to rewrap pennies.

In this case, as I stated, it's like asking for a penny from every till, or every roll. Unless this customer will offset the cost of their request, there's absolutely no point for the provider to even entertain the offer.

MoreMagic · 08-07-2008, 01:31 PM

Ohh you pretend to be a hosting company

Its all relative, for me it;s drama for you, not a hosting company, it's not ;)

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Yes you did

I'm attracted to fake drama!

Snake Doctor · 08-07-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

You're trying to support your own viewpoint, but you're doing so in exactly the form I was attempting to illustrate.

It does nothing for the bank, or the provider, to pander to someone who wants something super-custom right out of the gate, unless you're talking enough money to make it viable for not only your netengs, but the NOC to support it. A bank would be far more willing to inconvenience one of their employees to keep a customer happy than a hosting provider screwing up their internal topology - it's a hell of a lot easier to rewrap pennies.

In this case, as I stated, it's like asking for a penny from every till, or every roll. Unless this customer will offset the cost of their request, there's absolutely no point for the provider to even entertain the offer.

In this particular case, we're talking about a "bank" whose entire niche is giving people a penny from each roll. They advertise that they give away pennies from each roll, and in fact the only reason to choose this bank over any other bank is the fact that you need pennies from different rolls.

So all I'm asking is why can I have a penny from each roll if I share a safety deposit box with 10 other people, but I can't have a penny from each roll if I want my own safety deposit box?

MoreMagic · 08-07-2008, 01:35 PM

Bull, and i can tell you the providers I already use do have a special rack for it.

With you idea gotwebhost doesn't have any market also

he really must not have 1 client

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

You're trying to support your own viewpoint, but you're doing so in exactly the form I was attempting to illustrate.

It does nothing for the bank, or the provider, to pander to someone who wants something super-custom right out of the gate, unless you're talking enough money to make it viable for not only your netengs, but the NOC to support it. A bank would be far more willing to inconvenience one of their employees to keep a customer happy than a hosting provider screwing up their internal topology - it's a hell of a lot easier to rewrap pennies.

In this case, as I stated, it's like asking for a penny from every till, or every roll. Unless this customer will offset the cost of their request, there's absolutely no point for the provider to even entertain the offer.

baddog · 08-07-2008, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

That's a ridiculous analogy.

First of all, if you were willing to pay enough for them to do that, I'm sure they would accomodate you.

Second, there's no benefit to you getting change that way, there is a benefit to customers having IP's allocated a certain way.

Not all that ridiculous. Take it one step further. If you have dozens of people making the same request and when they are done with that penny it has to go back to the same roll.

baddog · 08-07-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreMagic

With you idea gotwebhost doesn't have any market also

he really must not have 1 client

Yeah, you got me.

LBBV · 08-07-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreMagic

Webair, Way3, Phatservers, Hosthead, Isprime, NationalNet, Softlayer, Addora and Caro

Why are you guys not responding on my thread here, you don't want my bizz?
I need those offers in tha thread and not personal. Just call your price!

Hi there,

One thing you will rarely find NationalNet doing is jumping into hosting threads. The only reason that I am even posting in this one is because you called us out by name here. In the past we have had some resellers who would jump into these threads but as a general rule, that is not really our style. We prefer to keep customer/vendor communications a bit more private so if you would like to contact me at sales AT nationalnet DOT com we can talk

I sincerely thank you for thinking of us

-- Bill

baddog · 08-07-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

If I have a virtual account aren't all of my domains on one server then as well? So the difference is I'm either the only one on the server or I'm not....how does that change the assignment of IP's?

Not trying to start shit, just trying to understand.....because while I like the idea of one IP per C, I don't like the idea of shared hosting.

Because a virtual server already has the IP's designated to it, whether someone is using them or not. A virtual server may be a virtual to you, but it is a dedicated to us, with the minimum number of IP's per C assigned to it.

08-07-2008, 06:23 AM	#1
MoreMagic Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,848	Hosting companies come in for some drama. Webair, Way3, Phatservers, Hosthead, Isprime, NationalNet, Softlayer, Addora and Caro Why are you guys not responding on my thread here, you don't want my bizz? I need those offers in tha thread and not personal. Just call your price!

08-07-2008, 11:19 AM	#7
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08-07-2008, 06:30 AM	#2
Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE North Coast Pimp Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 304-534-757 Posts: 9,395	Great thread...

08-07-2008, 06:33 AM	#3
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Could be beacuse you need custom configuration which could require toomuch work to make it

08-07-2008, 09:36 AM	#5
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Most hosting companies do not want to deal with your request. Especially the 1 IP per C. That we will do all day long on virtual servers, but keeping track of your request on a dedicated plan would be a nightmare.

08-07-2008, 11:03 AM	#6
MoreMagic Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,848	Lucky enough we have Pacificrack, Righthosting and yes even Webair that do it. LOL with the right price its almost a guaranteed order.