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DeanCapture · 08-07-2008, 05:06 PM

Alright perverts, I need your opinion on something.......

A few weeks ago I launched CaptureGirls...and in that time, I've had 2 perspective clients ask me to share with them who my other clients were. Since my packages are licensed on a very limited basis, I've had a few people ask me if I would tell them who the other buyers were for the package that they were interested in buying. One even went on to say that every other photographer that they have licenses content from has not had an issue telling them who the other content was sold to. Is it me or is this total bullshit? So.... content producers are happy to share their client base with their other clients?

Iron Fist · 08-07-2008, 05:07 PM

Bump for an answer

seeric · 08-07-2008, 05:09 PM

Well, I would guess they want to know how closely they compete with the other clients.

Personally, I would keep that info confidential and just tell people that you limit it to X number of people to keep the content's value up.

I don't think anyone has the right to know if you don't want them to, or if another party purchasing the sets wants competitors to not know.

A

qxm · 08-07-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

Well, I would guess they want to know how closely they compete with the other clients.

Personally, I would keep that info confidential and just tell people that you limit it to X number of people to keep the content's value up.

I don't think anyone has the right to know if you don't want them to, or if another party purchasing the sets wants competitors to not know.

A

+1

tony286 · 08-07-2008, 05:24 PM

I wouldn't tell.

Mutt · 08-07-2008, 05:26 PM

I understand why they want to know but i wouldn't give up the information

F-U-Jimmy · 08-07-2008, 05:28 PM

"Ill never tell"

If i shoot exclusive or semi exclusive i never share info on other clients even if it means a lost sale

DeanCapture · 08-07-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy

"Ill never tell"

If i shoot exclusive or semi exclusive i never share info on other clients even if it means a lost sale

One of these perspective clients walked away from doing business with me because I wouldn't share this info.....but the other has seen the light (while I am post this) and has decided to buy. I told them that instead of worrying about who my clients were - concentrate on getting the material up quickly in their members area before their competitors do. I guess that worked

F-U-Jimmy · 08-07-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

One of these perspective clients walked away from doing business with me because I wouldn't share this info.....but the other has seen the light (while I am post this) and has decided to buy. I told them that instead of worrying about who my clients were - concentrate on getting the material up quickly in their members area before their competitors do. I guess that worked

Good answer

CaptainHowdy · 08-07-2008, 06:56 PM

I just came to say "I love you, DEAN" ...

StuBradley · 08-07-2008, 07:24 PM

As a producer I would be happy to share that information with my other clients but only after the purchase was made. As a client who is paying a premium price for semi-exclusive content I wouldn't make the purchase without knowing this information. A producer who refused the info would throw up red flags as to how many licenses he was actually selling as compared to how many he claims to be selling. Also if I ran across said content on another site I would then know whether it was there legally so I wouldn't waste your time contacting you every time I saw the stuff.

BTW, it's 'prospective'.

F-U-Jimmy · 08-07-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by StuBradley

As a producer I would be happy to share that information with my other clients but only after the purchase was made. As a client who is paying a premium price for semi-exclusive content I wouldn't make the purchase without knowing this information. A producer who refused the info would throw up red flags as to how many licenses he was actually selling as compared to how many he claims to be selling. Also if I ran across said content on another site I would then know whether it was there legally so I wouldn't waste your time contacting you every time I saw the stuff.

BTW, it's 'prospective'.

Your joking right ?
Any producer wanting to rip you off can easily say "i sold this content to 5 sites" and just give you five names while selling to 20 more. Giving out info like that proves absolutely nothing...

StuBradley · 08-07-2008, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy

Your joking right ?
Any producer wanting to rip you off can easily say "i sold this content to 5 sites" and just give you five names while selling to 20 more. Giving out info like that proves absolutely nothing...

It proves who has the rights to be using it so if I find the content someplace else I know that either A) Somebody is stealing the content that I paid a premium price for to be one of a select few to use or B) The producer is selling more copies of the content than he agreed to sell. Either way I have a very valid reason to be pissed off.

Personally I don't see what all the secrecy is about. I mentioned before that I wouldn't give out the info (as a producer) until after the purchase was made and even then I would only give the client a list of the few other URLs that the content is licensed to be used on. It's not like you are releasing trade secrets or personal information here.

DeanCapture · 08-08-2008, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by StuBradley

I mentioned before that I wouldn't give out the info (as a producer) until after the purchase was made....

Well the issue that I was having is that these folks wanted the information "before" they purchased the material....not after. Not that it mattered much because I won't be sharing that kind of information before or after the sale. IMO it's nobodies business who I sell content to but mine.

I guarantee you none of my clients have time in their busy schedules to surf their competitors sites looking for content that I sold them on a limited basis and then to research to see if someone stole that content or if I lied to them about how many times I sold it. I haven't built my reputation on screwing folks over.....so when I say the content will be sold only 10 times - that's what I mean. If someone has an issue trusting me on this - then they shouldn't be doing business with me.

tical · 08-08-2008, 12:40 AM

maybe you can get a list from clients of who they don't want to compete with... that way you can follow up with them if their competition wasn't buying a particular set

i guess timing it would be a little tricky because you'd have to wait until sale #9 before you could guarantee anything

just throwing stuff out there... maybe some kind of variation of that

Supz · 08-08-2008, 01:04 AM

and give them a reason NOT to buy it. thats a big nono in sales 101. you take great pictures. They should appreciate the quality. There are tons of the same girls on lots of programs, but they all dont look the same

DWB · 08-08-2008, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

Well, I would guess they want to know how closely they compete with the other clients.

Personally, I would keep that info confidential and just tell people that you limit it to X number of people to keep the content's value up.

I don't think anyone has the right to know if you don't want them to, or if another party purchasing the sets wants competitors to not know.

A

Agreed.

This reminds me, I have to send you an address. I forgot to give you after my wonderful Laos mini-vacation.

Trixxxia · 08-08-2008, 03:09 AM

Since it's semi-exclusive, I wouldn't see the need to know the other 'xx number of buyers'. If it was exclusive and a first buy - the only reason I'd ask who you do business with is to get a reference on you.

JFK · 08-08-2008, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I wouldn't tell.

right on

OldJeff · 08-08-2008, 04:03 AM

As a long time content buyer, I would say the reason for asking if buying semi exclusive, is to help determine how "exposed" the content will be, and help judge its value to the buyer.

If one of the buyers is hahaha (who can put the material on about 4 million sites at this point) it will make the material less valuable to the guy buying than if it was sold to Joe Shit the porn webmaster who is going to show it to 14 people a month.

Tat2Jr · 08-08-2008, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

I understand why they want to know but i wouldn't give up the information

I totally agree.

Nikki_Licks · 08-08-2008, 08:02 AM

That information is confidential and it is none of their business

08-07-2008, 05:06 PM	#1
DeanCapture Haters & Trolls SUCK! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,275	*What The F#K? Alright perverts, I need your opinion on something....... A few weeks ago I launched CaptureGirls**...and in that time, I've had 2 perspective clients ask me to share with them who my other clients were. Since my packages are licensed on a very limited basis, I've had a few people ask me if I would tell them who the other buyers were for the package that they were interested in buying. One even went on to say that every other photographer that they have licenses content from has not had an issue telling them who the other content was sold to. Is it me or is this total bullshit? So.... content producers are happy to share their client base with their other clients? __________________ Twitter: @DeanCapture Instagram: @TheDeanCapture DeanCapture "at" Gmail.com

08-07-2008, 05:07 PM	#2
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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	I understand why they want to know but i wouldn't give up the information __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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F-U-Jimmy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Visiting a city near you soon ! Posts: 6,853	"Ill never tell" If i shoot exclusive or semi exclusive i never share info on other clients even if it means a lost sale __________________ icq. 176240424 44.years as a pornographer !!!!!!!!!!!

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08-07-2008, 05:09 PM	#3
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	Well, I would guess they want to know how closely they compete with the other clients. Personally, I would keep that info confidential and just tell people that you limit it to X number of people to keep the content's value up. I don't think anyone has the right to know if you don't want them to, or if another party purchasing the sets wants competitors to not know. A

08-07-2008, 05:24 PM	#5
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I wouldn't tell.

08-07-2008, 07:24 PM	#11
StuBradley Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,625	As a producer I would be happy to share that information with my other clients but only after the purchase was made. As a client who is paying a premium price for semi-exclusive content I wouldn't make the purchase without knowing this information. A producer who refused the info would throw up red flags as to how many licenses he was actually selling as compared to how many he claims to be selling. Also if I ran across said content on another site I would then know whether it was there legally so I wouldn't waste your time contacting you every time I saw the stuff. BTW, it's 'prospective'. __________________ 51-566-514

08-08-2008, 12:40 AM	#15
tical Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 6,504	maybe you can get a list from clients of who they don't want to compete with... that way you can follow up with them if their competition wasn't buying a particular set i guess timing it would be a little tricky because you'd have to wait until sale #9 before you could guarantee anything just throwing stuff out there... maybe some kind of variation of that __________________ 112.020.756

08-08-2008, 01:04 AM	#16
Supz Arthur Flegenheimer Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 11,056	and give them a reason NOT to buy it. thats a big nono in sales 101. you take great pictures. They should appreciate the quality. There are tons of the same girls on lots of programs, but they all dont look the same

08-08-2008, 03:09 AM	#18
Trixxxia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 5,600	Since it's semi-exclusive, I wouldn't see the need to know the other 'xx number of buyers'. If it was exclusive and a first buy - the only reason I'd ask who you do business with is to get a reference on you.

08-08-2008, 04:03 AM	#20
OldJeff Big Fucking hahahaha Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,969	As a long time content buyer, I would say the reason for asking if buying semi exclusive, is to help determine how "exposed" the content will be, and help judge its value to the buyer. If one of the buyers is hahaha (who can put the material on about 4 million sites at this point) it will make the material less valuable to the guy buying than if it was sold to Joe Shit the porn webmaster who is going to show it to 14 people a month. __________________ "As pornographers we must act responsibly! ;))"- Nickatilynx "I kinda like it when a lot of people die"-George Carlin DEI = Don Jr., Eric, and Ivanka

08-08-2008, 08:02 AM	#22
Nikki_Licks Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Behind The Lens Posts: 6,323	That information is confidential and it is none of their business __________________ Amateur Content ICQ: 292 356 077