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Old 08-21-2008, 03:17 AM   #1
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XNXX.com turning to tube site...

Interesting.
And the message in their webmasters area as well.

So wtf?
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Old 08-21-2008, 03:18 AM   #2
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http://video.xnxx.com/video44732/All_Ass_Fuck

1H23M long video. WTF ?????????
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I see a lot of 18 minute videos there. Thats fucked up!
Hope it converts like SHIT for them.
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Old 08-21-2008, 04:13 AM   #4
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He has been running tube sites since the beginning.....
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1H23M long video. WTF ?????????
Forward your Chinese traffic to that one.
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He has been running tube sites since the beginning.....
Yeah, most of his network are tubes..
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Tube sites = new TGP's
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Now is see how that thread title is wrong.Proper title would be tube sites = new MGP
You cant call tube new tgp since tgp servers images not videos in any kind.
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brazzers turned keezmovies into a tube as well
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If you're gonna turn into a tube site, why have such long clips? Seems just stupid.
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They still have the option of short clips or a "classic view"
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build traffic first, think later
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Yeah, seen this for a while, they are killing it with SEO on these new videos
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Monitize the e-mail database from surfers joining to view the full length movies?
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You can thank all these cheap full dvd download sites for this mess.
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Disagree. Tube sites no need trade. They build their bookmarkers.
I dont think he meant literally, but they will/are becoming the adult standard for free porn.
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Moviebox.com you can get unlimited downloads for under 10 bucks a month. That's why I don't really feel to sorry for the studios that are crying their eyes out now. They should have paid more attention to who they were letting licence their content. Instead of going for that quick buck.
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Moviebox.com you can get unlimited downloads for under 10 bucks a month. That's why I don't really feel to sorry for the studios that are crying their eyes out now. They should have paid more attention to who they were letting licence their content. Instead of going for that quick buck.
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bingo - i've said this since the beginning of DVD licensing - stupid brokers and even stupider studios putting their fate into the hands of short term dumb middlemen

unfortunately the content providers in this business tend to act out of desperation
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not all dvd sites work for 10$ a month like for example (pay per download):
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I am also quite disappointed in their new structure. But, it's their business so I guess they can do with it whatever they want. One would think they would make less money as a tube site but I'll assume they're smart people over there and didn't make the decision without a great deal of forethought.

It does frustrate me though. And gives me concern for the future of the industry. But, for now, I'm actually quite satisfied with where we are at this exact moment so I'll just have to take it one tube site at a time. :-)
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In my opinion they are all making chump change through pre-paid spots per month. You turn into a tube. Offer full length movies. Build traffic. Don't even think about doing "sales". Take offers from AFF, etc. for a prepaid spot after you've built up a crazy traffic number. Then you make your 20 grand a month.

Some guys are happy with that number and it'll work for a while. It isn't gonna work long term though. But xnxx has tried a lot of stuff over the years. His traffic was always circle jerk a few years back. Back then, I linked him up on Ampland and sent him 5,000 REAL surfers a day. He would send me back 100,000 uniques a day. lol I stopped that experiment. That kind of thinking makes quick easy money. But it just doesn't last, and it never makes any real money.
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20 grand a month Robbie? You think they're pulling down those numbers?

With content cost at 0$ and dirt cheap bandwidth they're doing pretty damn good!!
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With content cost at 0$ and dirt cheap bandwidth they're doing pretty damn good!!
More likely 100 grands monthly
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Martin, I can only speak from money I've made in the past with prepaid on TGP. For me, that was just a small part of the income stream. But for the tube sites...it's the ONLY income stream.
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More likely 100 grands monthly
Makes sence. 20k x 5tube sites.. Give or take. (We're fucked)


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Martin, I can only speak from money I've made in the past with prepaid on TGP. For me, that was just a small part of the income stream. But for the tube sites...it's the ONLY income stream.
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In my opinion they are all making chump change through pre-paid spots per month. You turn into a tube. Offer full length movies. Build traffic. Don't even think about doing "sales". Take offers from AFF, etc. for a prepaid spot after you've built up a crazy traffic number. Then you make your 20 grand a month.

Some guys are happy with that number and it'll work for a while. It isn't gonna work long term though. But xnxx has tried a lot of stuff over the years. His traffic was always circle jerk a few years back. Back then, I linked him up on Ampland and sent him 5,000 REAL surfers a day. He would send me back 100,000 uniques a day. lol I stopped that experiment. That kind of thinking makes quick easy money. But it just doesn't last, and it never makes any real money.
I would take 100,000 blind hits over 5000 toplist hits any day.
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http://video.xnxx.com/video44866/urine_twins1of_2

Hahaha yes! the first video.

Awesome piss scene.
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I would take 100,000 blind hits over 5000 toplist hits any day.
Hey nophest. Don't get me wrong. I'm not attacking you or anything. I was just trying to answer what the thread was about. You have obviously learned to monetize that type of traffic. I've never been able to. I would cede to your experience with that kind of thing. It's just not my area of expertise so that traffic was useless to me. I deal in selling memberships. You are a master of monetizing traffic that is for me unproductive. Just different areas of expertise.

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I would take 100,000 blind hits over 5000 toplist hits any day.
ohh!! now we are getting somewhere.. here is the man himself! ... tell us how is the new structure going to affect or benefit partners ?? What are your plans ?
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ohh!! now we are getting somewhere.. here is the man himself! ... tell us how is the new structure going to affect or benefit partners ?? What are your plans ?
As written in our submit area, the picture traffic is fine, so paid submitters should focus on pictures.

The few who still want to do movies should be fine too because we don't add new (fhg + custom) movie galleries anymore, so more exposure for them.

A few persons have started to submit 'watermarked' sponsor videos with URL redirecting to the sponsor tours. I'm certain that the conversions are good on this traffic. And it's free for them.
I haven't seen many sites other than us accepting this type of videos but it may be worth a try.
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By the way, as I said months ago, what we see is that the conversions from flash video pages (and even from fulll videos) are very similar to conversions from picture galleries.
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Hey Nophest thanks for the free 30 minute vids!
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Hey Nophest thanks for the free 30 minute vids!
My pleasure, you can also try file sharing sites, torrents, p2p, you won't even see adult ads!
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My pleasure, you can also try file sharing sites, torrents, p2p, you won't even see adult ads!
No way that's illegal!

And I don't want to get a virus! omg.

And your site is SOO much easier no waiting and no need to go find my credit card..

I LUV IT!

oh..

What ads? All the free porn BLINDED ME!!
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I was about to get a partner account with them too..oh well..
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IMHO we should give every surfer as many Hookers as he wants for free, then we'd have reached the final stage.....
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With the reality of illegal tubes coming out. Everyone seems to have Accepted illegal tubes as a good thing in this industry!

Why don't we ALL just own our own tube?

Fuck I got the resources and porn collection to DEEESTROY redtube and youporn.

Who's with me?
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