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Old 08-20-2008, 12:06 PM   #1
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Milorad Cavic and Michael Phelps Photo Finish DRAMA?!

Milorad Cavic and Michael Phelps in Photo Finish

Think that Phelps was first here?
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Old 08-20-2008, 12:09 PM   #2
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SI has a nice series of pics that you can clearly see Phelps won.
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looks to me like phelps touched first
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looks to me like phelps touched first
Hmmm...I am not so sure about that.
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I think I don't care TOO much about it and I certainly don't trust photos in today's day and age, regardless of who takes or publishes them.

It was close enough to have gone either way, and as is in all such cases, the winner gets to celebrate while the loser bitches.
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Old 08-20-2008, 12:19 PM   #7
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LOL...actually not...I am trying to be objective
Just wondering....

And there are so many talks on this subject in Serbia these days..
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Old 08-20-2008, 12:23 PM   #8
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I think I don't care TOO much about it and I certainly don't trust photos in today's day and age, regardless of who takes or publishes them.

It was close enough to have gone either way, and as is in all such cases, the winner gets to celebrate while the loser bitches.
Actually Cavic didn't bitches. He congratulated to Phelps and told reporters that it's not a shame to lose from the name like Michael Phelps is...
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Old 08-20-2008, 12:27 PM   #9
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It's not a visual thing, there is an electronic touch pad in the pool. Right after the race it showed Phelps as the winner. Unless it was all staged, the photos don't really mean anything.
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to me the photo on SportsIlustrated was pretty conclusive that Phelps touched first - could be wrong, nobody will truly ever know.
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He BARELY won but he won. I watched it over and over again. It was amazing but he pulled it off. Cavic almost had it, he would have, if he would have booked it the last few yards.!
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Cavic would have won had he taken 1 more stroke. He coasted the last 3/4 yard with his hands outstretched and if you're not accelerating, you're decelerating - Phelps used that distance for 1 more stroke and caught up

1/100th of a second won't show up in any photo - it's all about the sensors on the wall...
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i thought it was a tie, isnt that possible?
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i thought it was a tie, isnt that possible?
It is possible.
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it was the definiting of out-touching
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Cavic would have won had he taken 1 more stroke. He coasted the last 3/4 yard with his hands outstretched and if you're not accelerating, you're decelerating - Phelps used that distance for 1 more stroke and caught up

1/100th of a second won't show up in any photo - it's all about the sensors on the wall...
Most coaches would suggest to glide that distance and not take an extra stroke in the fly. It just so happens that Phelps is a beast and can do that extra stroke. Most other swimmers in the world would have glided in as well.
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Most coaches would suggest to glide that distance and not take an extra stroke in the fly. It just so happens that Phelps is a beast and can do that extra stroke. Most other swimmers in the world would have glided in as well.
Yeah, interesting thought. Most people would suggest to glide...Extra stroke usually take more time...
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I would imagine the touchpad is capable of breaking it down even past a 100th of a second if needed.
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technically a tie is NOT possible

If you can measure in the one one thousandths of a second a tie is a statistical improbability, anyone working with computers should be able to understand that

The touch pads dont lie y'all its that simple, camera angles can be decieving but a 20 year old PC can determine who touched that pad first with ease...do you know how long 1/100th of a second is to a even a 386?

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He BARELY won but he won. I watched it over and over again. It was amazing but he pulled it off. Cavic almost had it, he would have, if he would have booked it the last few yards.!
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Phelps won because the computer said so...why would the computer bullshit?
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technically a tie is NOT possible

If you can measure in the one one thousandths of a second a tie is a statistical improbability, anyone working with computers should be able to understand that

The touch pads dont lie y'all its that simple, camera angles can be decieving but a 20 year old PC can determine who touched that pad first with ease...do you know how long 1/100th of a second is to a even a 386?

its a fucking eternity
I think there was a tie result at this Olympics in swimming..Not sure which event though, but I heard it...
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Cavic would have won had he taken 1 more stroke. He coasted the last 3/4 yard with his hands outstretched and if you're not accelerating, you're decelerating - Phelps used that distance for 1 more stroke and caught up

1/100th of a second won't show up in any photo - it's all about the sensors on the wall...
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About what?
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He BARELY won but he won. I watched it over and over again. It was amazing but he pulled it off. Cavic almost had it, he would have, if he would have booked it the last few yards.!
That is something I find strange in today's athlete. When I was a kid you were trained to push on until it was over. It seems like so many kind of coast in these days.

That is how Lezak beat the French guy (as I recall).
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I think there was a tie result at this Olympics in swimming..Not sure which event though, but I heard it...
I seem to recall seeing a tie for a Bronze medal, but I don't recall the event. Could have been diving.
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you guys who think Plelps lost have got to be kidding me? You are comparing the pictures that show them before they touched the wall, no shit the other guy was closer. He was gliding in the last stroke and Phelps had his hands moving a lot faster since they were not already stretched out as far as possible.
Also about rigging the clock LOLOL, so your saying it was programmed to make Phelps win if someone happens to beat him just by a super small fraction of a second? It is not like the race ends and they have to print the photos to pick the winner. They turned around and it was displayed who won. Or maybe you think it just took .01 seconds off or whatever.
I can't blame you though cause if Phelps had lost this would be the same thread with the same bitching just the other way around hahha. No matter who wins someone still lost by 1/100 of a second.
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there was a tie for bronze medal on one of the relays, I dont think they bother counting it down on some things
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from the pictures, it looks like the Serbian guy won... from the video, I can't tell at all
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This is American board, so please don't try here to proof did Serbian win against American guy ;)

It's just waste of time...
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This is American board, so please don't try here to proof did Serbian win against American guy ;)

It's just waste of time...
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