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Old 08-29-2008, 02:36 PM   #1
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comcast officially blocking bandwith Oct., 1st

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26444853/



everyone will have a 250gb limit per month and no one is really sure how it will effect sales yet. Verizon will move to a similar plan by the end of the year.This includes uploads and downloads
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I see sales for dsl goin up lol also glad I didnt start embedding videos
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I see sales for dsl goin up lol also glad I didnt start embedding videos
Explain about embedding videos. How does that matter for you?
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lol 250gb. thats hilarious. up here in canada the most we can get (with rogers at least) is 95gb with the 'extreme' package.
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Explain about embedding videos. How does that matter for you?
Well considering I have two paysites and was thinking about going from downloading to embedding my members area. If bw now has a roof for the surfer.When they watch it on their own hard drive they arent eating into their 250gig.
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everyone will have a 250gb limit per month and no one is really sure how it will effect sales yet. Verizon will move to a similar plan by the end of the year.This includes uploads and downloads
Surely it will not effect any sales, but it most certainly will affect sales. I hope they don't have a monopoly in areas. Would suck for people to get stuck and have that as the only option. 250 GB isn't really all that much for a month.
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Up in Canada, Rogers instituted a 60 gig/month cap for regular highspeed users and 90 gig/month for high end high speed internet. Last month, I used 1300 gigs in usage. I'm going nuts right now.
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Up in Canada, Rogers instituted a 60 gig/month cap for regular highspeed users and 90 gig/month for high end high speed internet. Last month, I used 1300 gigs in usage. I'm going nuts right now.
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do you guys have other high speed options up there like dsl?
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Up in Canada, Rogers instituted a 60 gig/month cap for regular highspeed users and 90 gig/month for high end high speed internet. Last month, I used 1300 gigs in usage. I'm going nuts right now.
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if you dont mind how much is overage charges?
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Up in Canada, Rogers instituted a 60 gig/month cap for regular highspeed users and 90 gig/month for high end high speed internet. Last month, I used 1300 gigs in usage. I'm going nuts right now.
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Dam dude, your in deep shit there.

But you know what the worst thing is?

I can't get any catchup in your fucking restaurants!!!!!!!

Listen up all you americanos, if you go to Canada and order french fries then you
better have some catchup in your pocket or get used to gravy with you fries.


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Up in Canada, Rogers instituted a 60 gig/month cap for regular highspeed users and 90 gig/month for high end high speed internet. Last month, I used 1300 gigs in usage. I'm going nuts right now.
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Are they enforcing it yet?
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Here?s how it justifies it: ?250 GB/month is an extremely large amount of data, much more than a typical residential customer uses on a monthly basis. Currently, the median monthly data usage by our residential customers is approximately 2 - 3 GB. To put 250 GB of monthly usage in perspective, a customer would have to do any one of the following:

-- Send 50 million e-mails (at 0.05 KB/e-mail)

-- Download 62,500 songs (at 4 MB/song)

-- Download 125 standard-definition movies (at 2 GB/movie)

-- Upload 25,000 hi-resolution digital photos (at 10 MB/photo).?

Of course HD streaming will also speed up that limit.
http://www.forbes.com/technology/200...idcontent.html
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You can get some unlimited package using dsl and Tek savy

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I imagine this is an attempt by Comcast to wean users away from file sharing through torrents and other p2p apps.
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Well considering I have two paysites and was thinking about going from downloading to embedding my members area. If bw now has a roof for the surfer.When they watch it on their own hard drive they arent eating into their 250gig.
They still have to download it either way. If they have it on there hard drive they might not come back for more, so they don't waste there bandwidth. I think that was the point
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my neighbor has, with gusto ! She even came over once and asked me why my internet was down
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Did you get a blowjob as payment for her illegally stealing your cable?
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Your actual response is have they not heard of theft?
Ya that will stop them from putting limits on the majority of the honest people.
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They will lose no business. 250GB is more than almost anyone uses. People who do actually use it are 99% doing illegal things, and costing them money. Losing those customer (if even possible, where are they going to move to!?) will SAVE them money.
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nothing to do with that.. they want to update their capacity as little as possible so they can increase their profit margins...
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They even stated this will effect less than 1% of their clients. You guys are really showing your lack of knowledge in this thread. 250Gb / month is 8.4Gb per day. No one does that kind of transfer. If you had Sirius running, at it's highest bit rate, every second of every day for 30 days - it would only be 40 Gb. To go through that much with torrents. It would be roughly 125 movies every single month. Or 375-625 TV Shows per month.

Most people don't even have enough drive space to last more than a month or two at that rate. Seriously, get your heads out of your asses. The sky is not falling.
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the thought did cross my mind . ...not . I guess you would have to see her.
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Up in Canada, Rogers instituted a 60 gig/month cap for regular highspeed users and 90 gig/month for high end high speed internet. Last month, I used 1300 gigs in usage. I'm going nuts right now.
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Telus is way better

Bell is worse

I'd switch to Telus and make sure I told Roger's the reason I was switching
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Whaaat? That's 1.8 gigs every hour, Over 4,000 KB every second. How the fuck is that even possible?
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They even stated this will effect less than 1% of their clients. You guys are really showing your lack of knowledge in this thread. 250Gb / month is 8.4Gb per day. No one does that kind of transfer. If you had Sirius running, at it's highest bit rate, every second of every day for 30 days - it would only be 40 Gb. To go through that much with torrents. It would be roughly 125 movies every single month. Or 375-625 TV Shows per month.

Most people don't even have enough drive space to last more than a month or two at that rate. Seriously, get your heads out of your asses. The sky is not falling.
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I imagine this is an attempt by Comcast to wean users away from file sharing through torrents and other p2p apps.
Bing, bing we have a winner! But, here's a thought...what if they wanted to take it one step further and control all video content, even legal content, online?
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Hell in Aus/Nz its usually a 30-40gig cap, and you either pay for overage (we pay $10 per 5 gig), or you get your speed lowered to just over dialup.

Having a cap of 250gig would be an absolute dream !!!
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They will lose no business. 250GB is more than almost anyone uses. People who do actually use it are 99% doing illegal things, and costing them money. Losing those customer (if even possible, where are they going to move to!?) will SAVE them money.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
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Even downloading 40 movies a month.... I like the Forbes reference, they clearly don't know what they are talking about... 2Gb for a movie? No. 700 Mb for a movie that's been re-encoded DixV or 4.4-4.7Gb for a DVDR rip. Downloaders are either going after one format or another, but not both. 10Mb per pic? Good lord, I know a lot of people who have cameras, and only one or two who has the ability to send pics at that resolution (DSLR), everyone else, well it's around 3-4 megs a pic.

Either way, bottom line is 250Gb a month is plenty even for illegal purposes. But then again, once the dust settles from this move, they will lower it to 200Gb and so on and so forth until the Comcast portal and the streaming available there will be the only options available.
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NO CAPS here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YYAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYy

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NO CAPS here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yet. Besides, it is one thing to make it faster, doesn't mean they won't cap the amount, especially if the see everyone else doing it.
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They even stated this will effect less than 1% of their clients. You guys are really showing your lack of knowledge in this thread. 250Gb / month is 8.4Gb per day. No one does that kind of transfer. If you had Sirius running, at it's highest bit rate, every second of every day for 30 days - it would only be 40 Gb. To go through that much with torrents. It would be roughly 125 movies every single month. Or 375-625 TV Shows per month.

Most people don't even have enough drive space to last more than a month or two at that rate. Seriously, get your heads out of your asses. The sky is not falling.
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This will only effect 1&#37; and it's by design. If they did what they wanted and effected 30% of their customers all at once, it would be a huge issue.

They start at 250 gigs then slowly dial it back over time.

It's the same way they launched this whole thing, there have been press releases all year long about download caps. The first one got all kinds of press, now when it actually happens, it's barely news.

If you have any experience working with PR, you know these things are all planned out well in advance to lessen the blow.

I promise you the cap will be well under 250 gigs by this time next year.
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Here is a good conversion tool to estimate your usages.

http://www.unit-conversion.info/computer.html
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Maybe it will stop people who are seeding popular torrents 24/7 like the latest movies that are out in theatres.

A normal user probably uses 2-3 GB per month at most.

A pirate user probably uses 40 GB per month.

If we say that you upload as much as you download, then it is really only 125 GB. With the average pirated movie being either 700MB or 1.3 GB, then the average is around 1GB.

So 125 pirated movies = 200 hours of content.

Or if you watch TV shows, then 4 30-minute TV shows = 2 1-hour TV shows = 1 2 hour movie, so roughly the same.

And that is 6.5 hours of watching per day.

I think that is way more than enough pirating and I don't think that it is characteristic of a normal human being.

Do you think that Comcast cares about your intellectual property? If you can't pirate on Comcast, you will switch to an ISP that lets you pirate stuff. So I think that Comcast sat down and figured out how many GB/month it takes for them to lose money.

And Comcast isn't even going to kick you off or limit access if you go over 250 GB in a month. They may send you a warning, and then charge you for the extra.

And for the record, I download some movies with torrents. Sometimes, you need something right away and sometimes, you can't find a particular movie in the store so you have no other option. On average, I rip off about 3 or 4 movies a month.

And I think that at least 90&#37; of the people on this board pirate stuff, especially the ones who whine about their content getting stolen.

And they won't dare limit P2P traffic again. Just look:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25676395/
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Old 08-30-2008, 03:05 PM   #43
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Interesting move, not sure if it will effect the porn industry at all. I'm a novice when it comes to that kind of technical stuff but would it effect someone who views webcams all day?

Kind of sucks that the monopolies can do whatever they want. Asia is kicking our ass in terms of internet connectivity.
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Old 08-30-2008, 03:32 PM   #44
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Old 08-30-2008, 03:42 PM   #45
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Up in Canada, Rogers instituted a 60 gig/month cap for regular highspeed users and 90 gig/month for high end high speed internet. Last month, I used 1300 gigs in usage. I'm going nuts right now.
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I think it's capped to $25 max for going over the limit, at least I hope that's what it is!
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Old 08-30-2008, 05:34 PM   #46
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everyone's talking about normal surfers, p2p users, etc, etc..

what about webmasters? How many gigs per month you think webmasters consume?

My only options where I am are cumcast and verizon.

I am in FTP every day, when I click a file to edit it, it's considered a download.. when I close and click save it's considered an upload.. Add to that uploading banners, pics, etc
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Old 08-30-2008, 06:43 PM   #47
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everyone's talking about normal surfers, p2p users, etc, etc..

what about webmasters? How many gigs per month you think webmasters consume?

My only options where I am are cumcast and verizon.

I am in FTP every day, when I click a file to edit it, it's considered a download.. when I close and click save it's considered an upload.. Add to that uploading banners, pics, etc
exactly. this was one of the major reasons I recently did away with comcast. One for the simple fact that I could not connect to an FTP from home and because I upload a lot of gigs of bandwidth to servers for AMC. This WILL effect webmasters who upload lots of data
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Old 08-30-2008, 06:53 PM   #49
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everyone's talking about normal surfers, p2p users, etc, etc..

what about webmasters? How many gigs per month you think webmasters consume?

My only options where I am are cumcast and verizon.

I am in FTP every day, when I click a file to edit it, it's considered a download.. when I close and click save it's considered an upload.. Add to that uploading banners, pics, etc
I'm sure the business packages would allow for more bandwidth usage. You are running a business from home, that's exactly what they would tell you to do.
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Old 08-30-2008, 07:02 PM   #50
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Hell in Aus/Nz its usually a 30-40gig cap, and you either pay for overage (we pay $10 per 5 gig), or you get your speed lowered to just over dialup.

Having a cap of 250gig would be an absolute dream !!!
How true that is...250 gig...shit, the things I would do with that every month!
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