How do you dispose of an old dreamcatcher? - GoFuckYourself.com

majortom · 08-30-2008, 12:40 AM

I hope the Canadians guys here can help.

I bought a home a year ago, in SEA.
It has been build and own by a Canadian guy for 7 years.

I basically cannot sleep soundly in the master bedroom (very agitated sleep, etc).

I just re-discovered (saw it before when I bought the house, but forgot about it) an old dreamcatcher behind the curtains...a meter away from the bed head.

How do I dispose of it? What is the tradition?
Hang it in the garden? Bury it in the ground?

Tips are welcome.

Thanks in advance to all the GFY Shamans.
MajorTom

2012 · 08-30-2008, 12:45 AM

what does it look like?

BusterBunny · 08-30-2008, 12:49 AM

i am no holy man but the oracle says...

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...9141425AAh5JWd

The question is, was the Dreamcatcher blessed before you wore it.
If not, it is just a bit of wire and string and you can dispose of it as you would any other object (trash).
On the other hand if it has been blessed, you must release the energies.
I'll give you a small ritual: Note this is a scaled down modified native American ritual that is appropriate for de-energizing an Artifact (energized item).
First gather the following items:
1) small swath of earth-toned color cloth (big enough to wrap the Dreamcatcher)
2) small bowl
3) some water (about 3 cups)
4) sea salt (it's purer than table salt but table salt will do)
5) a spade or shovel.
6) matches
7) sandalwood incense

First off find a wooded area. Not necessarily the back yard but it will do. Gather your items to your left and kneel.
All Rituals should start with some kind of "prayer". Since this is a native American Ritual perhaps it should be worded something like this: "Mother Earth, Father Sky I kneel before you to release your spirit children from my service."
Then lay your cloth before you. Place the bowl at the center of the cloth. Remove the Dreamcatcher and place it in the bowl. Light the incense. Wave the incense over the bowl and say: "Spirit of Wind come and guide these spirits from this vessel. Lead them away from this vessel and guide them onto their next incarnation." Set the incense aside but don't extinguish it. Light a match. Wave the lit match over the Dreamcatcher and say: "Spirit of Fire come and cleanse with cleansing fire, this vessel, destroying all trace of the Spirits presence." The match may not stay lit, just use another until you have singed the Dreamcatcher. You don't have to completely burn it up. Now pour the water into the bowl with the Dreamcatcher and say: "Spirit of Water come and purify this item in your gentle embrace. Purify this item, remove all trace of occupancy." The grab a pinch of salt and sprinkle it into the water and say" Spirit of Earth come and seal this item and block the residence of any Spirits who wish to dwell within." Then using your spade, dig a small hole ( 6 inches deep). Remove the Dreamcatcher from the bowl and wrap it in your cloth. Set the bowl aside, but do not empty it yet. Place the wrapped Dreamcatcher in the hole and fill in the hole. Now take the spent matches and incense and place them in the water. Pour the contents upon the ground and say:"Spirits I thank you for your help in my tasks. Please return to whence you came and go with my blessings and thanks. My Will Be Done. May The Circle Be Complete!" This capitalized part should be spoken forcefully. Finish with a prayer: "Mother Earth, Father Sky, I thank you for sending your Children to my aid. My Will Be Done. May The Circle Be Complete!" The Dreamcatcher has been properly released and you will not receive any bad "Karma" from abandoning it.
I hope this helps...

Bless,
Brother Reggie

sortie · 08-30-2008, 12:52 AM

Why can't you just bless someone else with it.

Give it to someone and be for real about it.

Mr Pheer · 08-30-2008, 01:09 AM

Just throw it in the fucking trash. Why does everything have to be so difficult?

Babaganoosh · 08-30-2008, 01:13 AM

Don't fuck with that shit. Do it right just on the off chance that indian stuff is legit. I bought a dream catcher just after high school at one of the local native american university fund raisers. Several years later I got tired of looking at the thing hanging in my room and I trashed it.

Two nights later there was an owl that sat on a limb outside my second story bedroom window all night. He was there for 3-4 nights keeping me awake and just generally creeping me out. Before that I had never seen an owl in our area of town let alone in my own back yard. If it was just a coincidence it sure freaked me out.

2012 · 08-30-2008, 01:15 AM

what does it look like? post a picture. you could be seriously FUCKED !

majortom · 08-30-2008, 01:27 AM

Well it's a nice one.
All leather and fishing line
50 cm long 12 cm in diameter.
Turquoises, beads and plumes

aico · 08-30-2008, 01:29 AM

Toss it in the garbage and realize you control what happens in your life.

2012 · 08-30-2008, 01:42 AM

i think you should hang that one in a tree behind where you live but not in your backyard

and just forget about it. you're too superstitious ...

beemk · 08-30-2008, 01:44 AM

throw it in the trash. do you believe in santa and the easter bunny too?

majortom · 08-30-2008, 02:09 AM

Ooops it's 20 cm diameter.

Yep, I realize I control my life, even better I create (my own) reality as my neurons fire away.

I don't see that as a reason to NOT inform myself on other people traditions.

Thanks Busterbunny and Babaganoosh for your insights.

I'm going to relocate it with kind words (and a mission) in a nice place in the garden.

sinkiss · 08-30-2008, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by beemk

throw it in the trash. do you believe in santa and the easter bunny too?

not even close to the same thing

sinkiss · 08-30-2008, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Don't fuck with that shit. Do it right just on the off chance that indian stuff is legit. I bought a dream catcher just after high school at one of the local native american university fund raisers. Several years later I got tired of looking at the thing hanging in my room and I trashed it.

Two nights later there was an owl that sat on a limb outside my second story bedroom window all night. He was there for 3-4 nights keeping me awake and just generally creeping me out. Before that I had never seen an owl in our area of town let alone in my own back yard. If it was just a coincidence it sure freaked me out.

yep, have to agree. do it right, dont fuck with shit unknown

Libertine · 08-30-2008, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by majortom

I don't see that as a reason to NOT inform myself on other people traditions.

Informing yourself on traditions is different from actually following those traditions.

What's next? Are you going to sacrifice people every day to make sure the sun will come up the next day, like the Aztecs? If a family member of yours dies, will you leave him out in the open to get eaten by vultures, like the Zoroastrians? If your child suffers from headaches, will you get an African witchdoctor to drive out the demons?

Shed your superstitions. Live in freedom.

Monique Niccole · 08-30-2008, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Just throw it in the fucking trash. Why does everything have to be so difficult?

Exactly. The people who lived there before you probably just got it from some cheezy flea market stand anyway.

2012 · 08-30-2008, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by majortom

I'm going to relocate it with kind words (and a mission) in a nice place in the garden.

do the same thing everytime you eat chicken, beef or any other animal product you didn't kill yourself. If you're going to do it. Do it right, stop bullshiting yourself ...

Libertine · 08-30-2008, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Don't fuck with that shit. Do it right just on the off chance that indian stuff is legit. I bought a dream catcher just after high school at one of the local native american university fund raisers. Several years later I got tired of looking at the thing hanging in my room and I trashed it.

Two nights later there was an owl that sat on a limb outside my second story bedroom window all night. He was there for 3-4 nights keeping me awake and just generally creeping me out. Before that I had never seen an owl in our area of town let alone in my own back yard. If it was just a coincidence it sure freaked me out.

Are you serious?

Oh my god... I'm scared now. About ten years ago I insulted Jesus, and two years later, my uncle died. It must've been my fault

2012 · 08-30-2008, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Afrekete

Exactly. The people who lived there before you probably just got it from some cheezy flea market stand anyway.

whats wrong with the flea market that's where I get all my gear ?

Monique Niccole · 08-30-2008, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by fartfly

whats wrong with the flea market that's where I get all my gear ?

Nothing at all. I love those Cross Colors pants you're wearing.

BusterBunny · 08-30-2008, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by majortom

Ooops it's 20 cm diameter.

Yep, I realize I control my life, even better I create (my own) reality as my neurons fire away.

I don't see that as a reason to NOT inform myself on other people traditions.

Thanks Busterbunny and Babaganoosh for your insights.

I'm going to relocate it with kind words (and a mission) in a nice place in the garden.

no problem personally i'd call up freddy krueger to come slash that shit into oblivion...but i think you made a safe choice

2012 · 08-30-2008, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Afrekete

Nothing at all. I love those Cross Colors pants you're wearing.

thanks, my favorite. a great place to pickup all kinds of weird shit

I got the best french fry maker last week

majortom · 08-30-2008, 02:33 AM

Sacrificing humans for the Sun to come up?....Uncanny. Done that in a previous life.

Yes, here we have "strange traditions" too, burial last 3 days with full monks and musics and incenses and all the regalia to bid farewell to the spirits...and 3 years later do it again...just to make sure....

Curing the cold is done by stripping (nearly bloody) you like a zebra with tiger balm and a coke bottle cap along acupuncture line...

And yes we believe in many "strange things"...
You know like in the kung fu movies...for Us all that stuff is real.

Is that a problem for you?
You have the Freedom to choose a Cartesian life.
I have the Freedom to choose a Magick Life.
Thank you very much.

2012 · 08-30-2008, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Afrekete

Nothing at all. I love those Cross Colors pants you're wearing.

there was a guy there making "sugar coated almonds". a German guy - ( kind of interesing seeing a Caucasian at the market). It was kind of strange. I asked him if he had "hot and spicy kind" ... he wasn't amused

2012 · 08-30-2008, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by majortom

Sacrificing humans for the Sun to come up?....Uncanny. Done that in a previous life.

Yes, here we have "strange traditions" too, burial last 3 days with full monks and musics and incenses and all the regalia to bid farewell to the spirits...and 3 years later do it again...just to make sure....

Curing the cold is done by stripping (nearly bloody) you like a zebra with tiger balm and a coke bottle cap along acupuncture line...

And yes we believe in many "strange things"...
You know like in the kung fu movies...for Us all that stuff is real.

Is that a problem for you?
You have the Freedom to choose a Cartesian life.
I have the Freedom to choose a Magick Life.
Thank you very much.

Magick huh?

What are you worried about an Indian for

Monique Niccole · 08-30-2008, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by fartfly

there was a guy there making "sugar coated almonds". a German guy - ( kind of interesing seeing a Caucasian at the market). It was kind of strange. I asked him if he had "hot and spicy kind" ... he wasn't amused

Was he selling Dolce and Gabbana sunglasses and the bootleg of Dark Knight too?

I haven't been to a flea market in ages. I miss the Miami flea market where they sell cut mango dressed with vinegar, salt, and pepper. Sounds strange, but really good.

2012 · 08-30-2008, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Afrekete

Was he selling Dolce and Gabbana sunglasses and the bootleg of Dark Knight too?

I haven't been to a flea market in ages. I miss the Miami flea market where they sell cut mango dressed with vinegar, salt, and pepper. Sounds strange, but really good.

yeah, they have some good shit, I through away the "dead pig guts soup" or whatever it was when I discovered the sugar coated almonds

Monique Niccole · 08-30-2008, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fartfly

yeah, they have some good shit, I through away the "dead pig guts soup" or whatever it was...

Souse?

8 chars

Babaganoosh · 08-30-2008, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

Are you serious?

Oh my god... I'm scared now. About ten years ago I insulted Jesus, and two years later, my uncle died. It must've been my fault

Chill. It wasn't your fault. The going penalty for insulting the almighty is either a parking ticket or scabies.

2012 · 08-30-2008, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Afrekete

Souse?

8 chars

I don't know but it smelled like shit and worked wonders for a hangover

It tasted good though

2012 · 08-30-2008, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by majortom

I have the Freedom to choose a Magick Life.

if you really knew what you were talking about you wouldn't have to come to "gofuckyourself.com" and pull our wieners would you?

Monique Niccole · 08-30-2008, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fartfly

I don't know but it smelled like shit and worked wonders for a hangover

It tasted good though

Sounds like it. It's like chitlin's (or chitterlings) in a broth. I don't eat it because I don't eat pork (except rare cravings), but I have heard its good for a hangover. And I think it is the intestines of a pig or sometimes head cheese or pigs feet (whatever's left over) plus vinegar and spices.

2012 · 08-30-2008, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Afrekete

Sounds like it. It's like chitlin's (or chitterlings) in a broth. I don't eat it because I don't eat pork (except rare cravings), but I have heard its good for a hangover. And I think it is the intestines of a pig or sometimes head cheese or pigs feet (whatever's left over) plus vinegar and spices.

i think that was it, woke me right up !!! better then posole. I don't think I will be having it again maybe

majortom · 08-30-2008, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by fartfly

Magick huh?

What are you worried about an Indian for

Yes, Magick but more the asian chinese style, Taoist Alchemy, Ying Yang, Male Female, Fusion of the 5 Elements, etc..old stuff...I'm sure you know all about it..

Yes Magick just like GWB at Bohemian Grove

and you lesser Leaders Here

You see, nothing out of the ordinary...

2012 · 08-30-2008, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by majortom

Yes, Magick but more the asian chinese style, Taoist Alchemy, Ying Yang, Male Female, Fusion of the 5 Elements, etc..old stuff...I'm sure you know all about it..

Yes Magick just like GWB at Bohemian Grove

and you lesser Leaders Here

You see, nothing out of the ordinary...

that beats a rick roll anyday LOL

majortom · 08-30-2008, 03:36 AM

Glad you like it!

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Originally Posted by fartfly

that beats a rick roll anyday LOL

Nice one too

Quote:

Originally Posted by fartfly

Originally Posted by majortom View Post
I have the Freedom to choose a Magick Life.
if you really knew what you were talking about you wouldn't have to come to "gofuckyourself.com" and pull our wieners would you?

And where would have been the Fun?
And you may have notice how I have cunningly introduced to the SEs my new domain http://www.megaxtube.com under the cover of a pix....some thread views..with some links to keyword {tube}related "big tube domains" in them..
ok ok nothing to write home about...

Just a little GFY Magick and Fun.

2012 · 08-30-2008, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by majortom

Glad you like it!

Nice one too

And where would have been the Fun?
And you may have notice how I have cunningly introduced to the SEs my new domain http://www.megaxtube.com under the cover of a pix....some thread views..with some links to keyword {tube}related "big tube domains" in them..
ok ok nothing to write home about...

Just a little GFY Magick and Fun.

fluffygrrl · 08-30-2008, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by majortom

I hope the Canadians guys here can help.

I bought a home a year ago, in SEA.
It has been build and own by a Canadian guy for 7 years.

I basically cannot sleep soundly in the master bedroom (very agitated sleep, etc).

I just re-discovered (saw it before when I bought the house, but forgot about it) an old dreamcatcher behind the curtains...a meter away from the bed head.

How do I dispose of it? What is the tradition?
Hang it in the garden? Bury it in the ground?

Tips are welcome.

Thanks in advance to all the GFY Shamans.
MajorTom

Shove it up your ass.

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Originally Posted by BusterBunny

Note this is a scaled down modified native American ritual

[...]

7) sandalwood incense

The Dreamcatcher has been properly released and you will not receive any bad "Karma" from abandoning it.
I hope this helps...

Bless,
Brother Reggie

Brother reggie can shove some sandalwood toothpicks up his ass untill either sandalwood becomes American native or his ass becomes truely shamanic.

Monique Niccole · 08-30-2008, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fartfly

2012 · 08-30-2008, 04:01 AM

how did I know that was you

a webmaster with a password told me

2012 · 08-30-2008, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Afrekete

Hi DAD !

08-30-2008, 12:40 AM	#1
majortom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SEA Posts: 445	How do you dispose of an old dreamcatcher? I hope the Canadians guys here can help. I bought a home a year ago, in SEA. It has been build and own by a Canadian guy for 7 years. I basically cannot sleep soundly in the master bedroom (very agitated sleep, etc). I just re-discovered (saw it before when I bought the house, but forgot about it) an old dreamcatcher behind the curtains...a meter away from the bed head. How do I dispose of it? What is the tradition? Hang it in the garden? Bury it in the ground? Tips are welcome. Thanks in advance to all the GFY Shamans. MajorTom __________________ Divers Do It Deeper !!!

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BusterBunny perverted justice decoy Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: unborn still in the womb connected via blackberry Posts: 19,291	i am no holy man but the oracle says... http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...9141425AAh5JWd The question is, was the Dreamcatcher blessed before you wore it. If not, it is just a bit of wire and string and you can dispose of it as you would any other object (trash). On the other hand if it has been blessed, you must release the energies. I'll give you a small ritual: Note this is a scaled down modified native American ritual that is appropriate for de-energizing an Artifact (energized item). First gather the following items: 1) small swath of earth-toned color cloth (big enough to wrap the Dreamcatcher) 2) small bowl 3) some water (about 3 cups) 4) sea salt (it's purer than table salt but table salt will do) 5) a spade or shovel. 6) matches 7) sandalwood incense First off find a wooded area. Not necessarily the back yard but it will do. Gather your items to your left and kneel. All Rituals should start with some kind of "prayer". Since this is a native American Ritual perhaps it should be worded something like this: "Mother Earth, Father Sky I kneel before you to release your spirit children from my service." Then lay your cloth before you. Place the bowl at the center of the cloth. Remove the Dreamcatcher and place it in the bowl. Light the incense. Wave the incense over the bowl and say: "Spirit of Wind come and guide these spirits from this vessel. Lead them away from this vessel and guide them onto their next incarnation." Set the incense aside but don't extinguish it. Light a match. Wave the lit match over the Dreamcatcher and say: "Spirit of Fire come and cleanse with cleansing fire, this vessel, destroying all trace of the Spirits presence." The match may not stay lit, just use another until you have singed the Dreamcatcher. You don't have to completely burn it up. Now pour the water into the bowl with the Dreamcatcher and say: "Spirit of Water come and purify this item in your gentle embrace. Purify this item, remove all trace of occupancy." The grab a pinch of salt and sprinkle it into the water and say" Spirit of Earth come and seal this item and block the residence of any Spirits who wish to dwell within." Then using your spade, dig a small hole ( 6 inches deep). Remove the Dreamcatcher from the bowl and wrap it in your cloth. Set the bowl aside, but do not empty it yet. Place the wrapped Dreamcatcher in the hole and fill in the hole. Now take the spent matches and incense and place them in the water. Pour the contents upon the ground and say:"Spirits I thank you for your help in my tasks. Please return to whence you came and go with my blessings and thanks. My Will Be Done. May The Circle Be Complete!" This capitalized part should be spoken forcefully. Finish with a prayer: "Mother Earth, Father Sky, I thank you for sending your Children to my aid. My Will Be Done. May The Circle Be Complete!" The Dreamcatcher has been properly released and you will not receive any bad "Karma" from abandoning it. I hope this helps... Bless, Brother Reggie __________________ my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died

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Babaganoosh ♥♥♥ Likes Hugs ♥♥♥ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: /home Posts: 15,841	Don't fuck with that shit. Do it right just on the off chance that indian stuff is legit. I bought a dream catcher just after high school at one of the local native american university fund raisers. Several years later I got tired of looking at the thing hanging in my room and I trashed it. Two nights later there was an owl that sat on a limb outside my second story bedroom window all night. He was there for 3-4 nights keeping me awake and just generally creeping me out. Before that I had never seen an owl in our area of town let alone in my own back yard. If it was just a coincidence it sure freaked me out. __________________ I like pie.

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majortom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SEA Posts: 445	Well it's a nice one. All leather and fishing line 50 cm long 12 cm in diameter. Turquoises, beads and plumes __________________ Divers Do It Deeper !!!

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aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	Toss it in the garbage and realize you control what happens in your life.

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majortom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SEA Posts: 445	Ooops it's 20 cm diameter. Yep, I realize I control my life, even better I create (my own) reality as my neurons fire away. I don't see that as a reason to NOT inform myself on other people traditions. Thanks Busterbunny and Babaganoosh for your insights. I'm going to relocate it with kind words (and a mission) in a nice place in the garden. __________________ Divers Do It Deeper !!!

08-30-2008, 02:33 AM	#23
majortom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SEA Posts: 445	Sacrificing humans for the Sun to come up?....Uncanny. Done that in a previous life. Yes, here we have "strange traditions" too, burial last 3 days with full monks and musics and incenses and all the regalia to bid farewell to the spirits...and 3 years later do it again...just to make sure.... Curing the cold is done by stripping (nearly bloody) you like a zebra with tiger balm and a coke bottle cap along acupuncture line... And yes we believe in many "strange things"... You know like in the kung fu movies...for Us all that stuff is real. Is that a problem for you? You have the Freedom to choose a Cartesian life. I have the Freedom to choose a Magick Life. Thank you very much. __________________ Divers Do It Deeper !!!

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