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Old 09-01-2008, 10:33 PM   #1
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Sooo I just got the banner design I ordered from Jon Clark (pic)



What do you guy's think? Was It worth $15?

I think so.

I think I'll order another bigger one
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Old 09-01-2008, 10:35 PM   #2
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Old 09-01-2008, 10:38 PM   #3
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Good looking banner, $15 is very good if you only ordered one banner
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Better than shit that I've paid others here the same price for. But in the end, it's just one little button. Pretty hard to fuck that up.

Did he give you a discount for posting this thread?
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Better than shit that I've paid others here the same price for. But in the end, it's just one little button. Pretty hard to fuck that up.

Did he give you a discount for posting this thread?
No he did not, I'm just ridin the views, spamming the cam proggie a bit

I think the work is good for the price, ordered a 468 one now.
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Old 09-01-2008, 10:46 PM   #6
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No he did not, I'm just ridin the views, spamming the cam proggie a bit

I think the work is good for the price, ordered a 468 one now.
Be sure to get the discount on the next order.
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I think it sucks, just like Jon Clark and his shitty design company...
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Be sure to get the discount on the next order.
No worries. I ordered this graphic before tonight though so It really doesn't have anything with the resent threads to do, but It's still nice timing from my side

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No pun to Jon but the logo was taken off your site so it's not like he designed that (unless he did your site too). It was still worth $15 for animating that text imo...
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15 $ for a animated gif button ????
..Fuck I'm really out of touch with the REAL world.

It's basically 1$per minute...15 minutes, it what it takes to "learn gif animator".

Really Nicky, you don't have the time to play around for a little while with a software?
You rather pay some guy to do it for you? Buy fish instead of learning to fish???

I'm not flaming/giving shit to the banner seller or buyer...

It's good money goes around and create wealth for everyone...

but still 15 $ for a button.....

Maybe 15 $ for a "very funny and inspired slogan{Branding} " gif or flash button...
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No pun to Jon but the logo was taken off your site so it's not like he designed that (unless he did your site too). It was still worth $15 for animating that text imo...
No, we did not do the logo... And logos are not included with a $15 banner...
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15 $ for a animated gif button ????
..Fuck I'm really out of touch with the REAL world.

It's basically 1$per minute...15 minutes, it what it takes to "learn gif animator".

Really Nicky, you don't have the time to play around for a little while with a software?
You rather pay some guy to do it for you? Buy fish instead of learning to fish???

I'm not flaming/giving shit to the banner seller or buyer...

It's good money goes around and create wealth for everyone...

but still 15 $ for a button.....

Maybe 15 $ for a "very funny and inspired slogan{Branding} " gif or flash button...
Great, you will be making all my graphics from now on. I guess since this was outrageous I should have paid what? $3? Can I order 10 buttons and 10 full size banners from you? Will $70 be ok?

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I like it looks good.
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Great, you will be making all my graphics from now on. I guess since this was outrageous I should have paid what? $3? Can I order 10 buttons and 10 full size banners from you? Will $70 be ok?

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Old 09-01-2008, 11:26 PM   #17
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I think it sucks, just like Jon Clark and his shitty design company...
Did you just say you suck?
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Nice looking banner

That does not suck.

Too bad the guy you bought it from comes off as such a prick sometimes.

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Looks fine for me and I can't see anything bad with $15 a button.
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I'm going to go on a limb here and say it's pretty weak.. It looks good because it's simple and has good color.. But the main graphic of the banner was pre-designed for him..

Your site has tons of great graphics on it and all he used was the logo..

He even used a poor choice in font selection also looks like he stretched some fonts out...

Also the animation could be tighter, quicker, more pop.. He's got the text fading in.. the logo doesn't.. it's just not smooth or interesting..

15 minutes would have been too long..

Doesn't really show any skills...

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15 $ for a animated gif button ????
..Fuck I'm really out of touch with the REAL world.

It's basically 1$per minute...15 minutes, it what it takes to "learn gif animator".

Really Nicky, you don't have the time to play around for a little while with a software?
You rather pay some guy to do it for you? Buy fish instead of learning to fish???

I'm not flaming/giving shit to the banner seller or buyer...

It's good money goes around and create wealth for everyone...

but still 15 $ for a button.....

Maybe 15 $ for a "very funny and inspired slogan{Branding} " gif or flash button...
yup, and if you start breeding cows your steak will be much cheaper too, stick to what you're good at, it took me about 5 hours to make ONE button and that was the last time I played with graphics, on the other hand I can build 100 splogs with 100 posts each in a single day
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I'm going to go on a limb here and say it's pretty weak.. It looks good because it's simple and has good color.. But the main graphic of the banner was pre-designed for him..

Your site has tons of great graphics on it and all he used was the logo..

He even used a poor choice in font selection also looks like he stretched some fonts out...

Also the animation could be tighter, quicker, more pop..

15 minutes would have been too long..

Definately nothing to be posting to show off or brag or gain some brownie points..
Dont worry mate, these are getting played around with and will have many different styles.

As for the browning or bragging, lmao
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I think it's a very nice little button. Good work ;)
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I'll pay you $4,50 for it. hehe
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He should have copied the style of the 50% and 40% for the banner to add design detail and branding..
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Nice looking banner

That does not suck.

Too bad the guy you bought it from comes off as such a prick sometimes.

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I think it was very well done. You are happy with it, it gets the message across, and you are not waiting around on the designer to get the product to you.

Definitely worth $15.

As far as majortom's comment is concerned, I have to ask, do you work for less than $1 a minute?
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Dude why are the graphics on your site saved out as GIFS???

Even the flash looks low res.. wtf??

Dude.. yer website would look a hell of a lot better saved out as high quality jpegs..

Absolutely no reason to save those graphics out so low quality. I use about 90% jpeg for everything..

GIFs are good for stuff that is low amount of detail and colors and a lot of text.. Makes text look sharp..

But you are using a lot of gradients and color variants..

I'd also have your designer clean up the site.. a bunch of lines just don't match up or look clean.. I dunno.. needs tightening up..

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Urgh, this is not working out, 08:50am and I haven't slept yet. Time to pay the land of dreams a lill visit. Have fun everyone.
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Dude why are the graphics on your site saved out as GIFS???

Even the flash looks low res.. wtf??

Dude.. yer website would look a hell of a lot better saved out as high quality jpegs..

Absolutely no reason to save those graphics out so low quality. I use about 90% jpeg for everything..

GIFs are good for stuff that is low amount of detail and colors and a lot of text.. Makes text look sharp..

But you are using a lot of gradients and color variants..
Let me look into this. But first: Zzzzz
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And I noticed the tire track bg that flanks the sides of the site...

It's the same pattern GFY uses in it's background haha..

it's a stock photoshop pattern..
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And I noticed the tire track bg that flanks the sides of the site...

It's the same pattern GFY uses in it's background haha..

it's a stock photoshop pattern..
lmao, you asked him the other day who did the design, you thought it was bad ass...





I am sure who ever designed it used .gif's for the load speed versus heavy jpegs.. I know the owner of VanityCash and he is very particular about load speeds..
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And I noticed the tire track bg that flanks the sides of the site...

It's the same pattern GFY uses in it's background haha..

it's a stock photoshop pattern..
Yea, does that really matter? Are we playing some kind of error finding game here?

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Yea, does that really matter? Are we playing some kind of error finding game here?

now, goodnight
klaze is just overly stoned... don't pay him any attention... lmao
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15$ for that banner is a good price.

Anyone who says otherwise obviously doesnt know shit about the biz.


If you pay less, you're either a) getting a really shitty design done or b) going to have to wait a damn long time before getting it.


For those who say he could have done better... well... lets see you make kickass banners for 15$ a pop. Once you realize it takes you 1 hour to create a really cool banner and that you end up only making 15$ an hour, you'll do exactly as John does, make it straightforward and elegant.



and LOL at ppl asking if he created the logo... camon, its 15$ guys...
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15$ for that banner is a good price.

Anyone who says otherwise obviously doesnt know shit about the biz.


If you pay less, you're either a) getting a really shitty design done or b) going to have to wait a damn long time before getting it.


For those who say he could have done better... well... lets see you make kickass banners for 15$ a pop. Once you realize it takes you 1 hour to create a really cool banner and that you end up only making 15$ an hour, you'll do exactly as John does, make it straightforward and elegant.



and LOL at ppl asking if he created the logo... camon, its 15$ guys...
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Told you...

I got to get in touch with the real world...(see avatar name;)

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I'm going to go on a limb here and say it's pretty weak.. It looks good because it's simple and has good color.. But the main graphic of the banner was pre-designed for him..

Your site has tons of great graphics on it and all he used was the logo..

He even used a poor choice in font selection also looks like he stretched some fonts out...

Also the animation could be tighter, quicker, more pop.. He's got the text fading in.. the logo doesn't.. it's just not smooth or interesting..

15 minutes would have been too long..

Doesn't really show any skills...
This more what I meant, doesn't show any real (marketing) skills...just a sting of "classic webmasters call"..50% ..etc..

No Slogan, nothing out of the ordinary.
But As I think of it, it's not the banner designer job, it's the marketing campaign guy job.

Fuck, Fuck, Fuck reality hits again...I'm off topic...


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yup, and if you start breeding cows your steak will be much cheaper too, stick to what you're good at, it took me about 5 hours to make ONE button and that was the last time I played with graphics, on the other hand I can build 100 splogs with 100 posts each in a single day
I wish I could.
Yes I get often get trapped (but strangely satisfied) in that kinda experience...
I'm a sailor, I like to be able to repair everything myself on my boat.
I gotta learn more about the "delegation" thing...

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As far as majortom's comment is concerned, I have to ask, do you work for less than $1 a minute?
I'm afraid so.

And in case you wonder what I'm doing. I own a Fisting BDSM Extreme Sex Paysite.

When I was only shooting content, "big sponsor" offered me only 1$/minute of video. I didn't take it. I made my own paysite.

I've been in contact with the American way of doing things {time is money} when I was a commercial deep sea diver...but then over 25 years in Asia are gone...And I'm still here.

Yes, 15$ is not much in America...Fuck, Fuck, Fuck...I'm going into the outsourcing thing...and I don't know shit...no matter it's GFY and people are kind and understanding.

What I wanted to say is that I have, right now, 2 European friends living here, who would gladly make a 100 $ a day to make 10 button and 10 640x70 banners...after I tough them the basics of gif animator. lol

Yes, I can here the comments, yep, they cannot cut it in they own country so bla bla..

It's not about that..
It's more like..here for 15$ I can get a girl for 24 hours....there a banner button....lol

Culture shock...over and over again...after each and every beer..
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I got to get in touch with the real world...(see avatar name;)



This more what I meant, doesn't show any real (marketing) skills...just a sting of "classic webmasters call"..50% ..etc..

No Slogan, nothing out of the ordinary.
But As I think of it, it's not the banner designer job, it's the marketing campaign guy job.

Fuck, Fuck, Fuck reality hits again...I'm off topic...




I wish I could.
Yes I get often get trapped (but strangely satisfied) in that kinda experience...
I'm a sailor, I like to be able to repair everything myself on my boat.
I gotta learn more about the "delegation" thing...



I'm afraid so.

And in case you wonder what I'm doing. I own a Fisting BDSM Extreme Sex Paysite.

When I was only shooting content, "big sponsor" offered me only 1$/minute of video. I didn't take it. I made my own paysite.

I've been in contact with the American way of doing things {time is money} when I was a commercial deep sea diver...but then over 25 years in Asia are gone...And I'm still here.

Yes, 15$ is not much in America...Fuck, Fuck, Fuck...I'm going into the outsourcing thing...and I don't know shit...no matter it's GFY and people are kind and understanding.

What I wanted to say is that I have, right now, 2 European friends living here, who would gladly make a 100 $ a day to make 10 button and 10 640x70 banners...after I tough them the basics of gif animator. lol

Yes, I can here the comments, yep, they cannot cut it in they own country so bla bla..

It's not about that..
It's more like..here for 15$ I can get a girl for 24 hours....there a banner button....lol

Culture shock...over and over again...after each and every beer..


btw, your website sucks ass...
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the banner is ok but i dont see why you would want that. you are running a program man, one that looks pretty nice. why put all that time and money into a program and then go cheap with subpar designs.

hire a real design company and grab some attention. leave the cheap shit for bloggers making a sale a day who cant afford a real design.
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Old 09-02-2008, 01:07 AM   #42
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is it worth $15 ? yes i suppose but kind of a waste because you didn't think far enough ahead.

I'm assuming the main reason you bought the banner was to get thread views using jon clarks name and thus some sig views to your program. but you forgot gfy's golden drama rule. More drama = More views = More gold. You bought a cheap banner that is basically worth what you paid for it. No op for drama = less comments = less views = less gold.

You should have overpaid for it and asked him to make you something that looked like a 4 year old did it in paintshop. Then the thread would have been filled with people laughing at jons shoddy overpriced work.
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Old 09-02-2008, 02:25 AM   #43
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it looks ok for me
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Old 09-02-2008, 03:18 AM   #44
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Not bad. If you're happy with it, that's really the only thing that matters
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:17 AM   #45
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Nice clean button. Simple but effective animated text. I like it.
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:22 AM   #46
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15 bucks is reasonable, but good god guys. The copy is so boring.

Why do most program ads look identical to each other? Do you not want any differentiation?

x$ for life
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great promo tools
x% WM ref

Yawn...

Do something creative for a change.
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:22 AM   #47
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looks good for $15
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:28 AM   #48
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More drama = More views = More gold.
Do people really use a message board as a business model? How many "views" will make all that "gold" on a message board? 2,000? 3,000? A good traffic site would get that in a few minutes. This is just a message board guys. Supposedly for other webmasters, but now filled with surfer trolls. And I doubt the trolls who sit here trying to learn our business vocabulary and making broad comments on the "industry" are ever gonna buy a membership to anything.
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Old 09-02-2008, 06:21 AM   #49
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Clean and nice...I liked it!
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Old 09-02-2008, 06:24 AM   #50
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Not bad for 15 bucks
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