Barefootsies

It's been more than 48 hours. Are our banners, and graphics back up?

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StariaDaniel

Apparently not - do you know why they took them offline? Clips4Sale doing some strange things last couple of months, not sure if they're on the right course

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Ryan St. Germain

Nope. I have a strange feeling they might not go back either. It's only the clickable banners, because they header on this store:
13761 is still there, since it was never clickable.

I just removed the url source from this store:Maitresse and the image returned.

Get the feeling they are trying to keep traffic on the site? That's fine, as long as they develop an affiliate program. If not, then I've got a problem not benefitting from the traffic I send to my own stores, by being able to send it to my own sites.

Ryan St. Germain

also, have you noticed the "advertise" section in the new admin? It's not live but they want, so I'm going to hope that the prices they quote for traffic there are not real.

Barefootsies

Honestly, not sure.

I sent them an e-mail 4 hours ago. Have not heard what up.

I know they are, or have been, working on their new platform. I still use the old one. I do not need all that bullshit on the new one for most of what I do. Nice bells and whistles for some I suppose. I'll look more into it, and new tools when I have time.

Right now, things are peachy. Other than this little bump.

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Haha, they're talking about an affiliate program since years - would be cool but i don't expact it (yet) oO

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Barefootsies

This I agree with.

I get traffic to my OWN shit. So I should also be able to promote my main paysite, and network. But you might be on to something there.

I know that a year or so back they added in a filter to thier e-mail/newsletter that would take out any mention of other websites. I had to fight for two months to get it (my sites) past the filter so I could send out my standard e-mail.

My guess is there are more abusers doing something C4S is trying to rectify. i.e. growing pains.

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Barefootsies

I'll pass on that shit foo.

I want to keep my 60/40 split thanks.

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By the way, we talked about HotMovies/FetishMovies.com not long ago, and after a few months, it's starting to grow pretty reasonably for me. It's not what my c4s stores do, but it's definitely worth the effort.

Barefootsies

Neil had mentioned something about this, or maybe it was in one of the announcements, a few months back.

Something about you being able to buy traffic directly from them, and they were working out some kind of promo feature. I can't recall off the top of my head what that announcement was, but it came out around the time they launched that new admin.

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Barefootsies

Yeah, well, once they remove that provision in their contract where they get 'licensed' use of my content for their VOD network and they increase their payout percentage to content producers,... I'll think about it.

I am not going to "leave money on the table" and use their low ranking (compared to C4S) site just to get my 40%, and then give them a license to use my material on their VOD or whatever it was.

Oh yeah, and they PROMISE to remove it should I close my store.

Yeah right.

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StariaDaniel

Where did you see the prices? I've only the 3 banner positions on the "Advertise Now" page but no prices, and an empty table on the "ads listing" page.

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Ryan St. Germain

I'm referring to the VOD side, not the clips side. I've packaged clips into collections by themed, and have a white label VOD theater with them.
It's good exposure too. I'm getting a lot of new customers because of it.

Ryan St. Germain

Tha'ts new. As of wo days ago, it gave a PPC text and banner ad by day or ppc rate list. I signed up two weeks or so ago, and it just said "pending approval" for a long time and now is gone.

Barefootsies

Good to hear you are having success.

You are one of the more recognized C4S people/store owners from the GFY.

As I've said in similar threads on this topic. I refuse to give a larger percentage to a company with the "promise" of more exposure or money. Clips.com or whatever have been around years now. They have yet to get close to the success, traffic, or rank of C4S during that time.

I have thought about trying them twice. Looked at their license agreement. Laughed. Shredded it.

Not a chance.

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The clips side of HotMovies won't likely be as profitable as c4s, but they'll admit that clips aren't their main focus, movies are. I am, however, doing a little better with their clips side now because of the webmaster commissions.

The movie side of it is a piece of cake, really,. You mail them a dvd of your content, and they create the artwork, do the writeups, etc.

In my first month of having my whitelabel VOD, I made twice of what I did on c4s in the first month of a new store launch, (even with other successful c4s stores feeding it traffic). I didn't send it any traffic the first month, intentionally, to see what the result would be as a content provider. I made a larger number of sales with a smaller payout, which ended up being more money.

If you don't like the contract, that's another matter though, and I'd have to respect that.

Barefootsies

DC,

That's good feedback. It doesn't change my opinion on Clips/Movies. Others have had success with some other platforms mentioned in other C4S threads that might be worth a look.

But I appreciate you taking the time to write that out. Thanks for taking the time buddy.

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Hey, no problem.

Jim_Gunn

My banner and links are still missing and I am not too pleased about it. I also have sent some traffic directly to my C4S store knowing that I had links to my sites & blogs on the store page.

Barefootsies

Exactly.

I sent another e-mail. This time to Neil directly. Hopefully someone let's us know what is going on.

The 48 hours is one thing, and an inconvenience. I see a difference in sales numbers. I have been doing updates all week. But it's gotta be 3-4 days now since that notice, and it is NOT changed back.

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MRock

I believe they are checking for backlinks. Somewhere in the new admin I saw something stated with an asteric that backlinks are reqiured.

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Barefootsies

I have a hundreds, if not THOUSANDS, of back links to the site, and store. So that is no reason to have banners off on my end.

I'll look in the new admin here in a sec.

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Read through the tutorial, and every where I could click. I did not see anything about backlinks, but, as I said. I have tons. So I am not worried about that shit.

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Jim_Gunn

Well according to the time on that system-wide message it has just barely been longer than 48 hours, so hopefully they will be back soon. I have backlinks on my sites also so that is not an issue.

Barefootsies

Good toe hear.

Looks like they are working on a new ad platform. The tutorial was entertaining.

If Jimmy Gunn and his gf posted an hour of toe sex clips per day....

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Tat2Jr

I hope this is just a bump, like they said. Got lots of links back to my C4S stores. Even got a small army of SEO pages going directly there. With more bought and being spread across different class c's.

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Barefootsies

I think most store owners are like that TatrSalad. It makes sense to do it that way.

However, I am sure there are people/companies trying to game the system.

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Go in to admin, go to clipstore edit, look at the bottom og the page in red:

* Optional Requires a link back to your store

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Barefootsies

Thanks BRO. Going to check it out now.

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tony286

how have your sales been today,mine have blown.

Barefootsies

Ah ha. Found it.

For those who do not know how to do HTML, they have a 'Dummie" function. People can upload their banner, and then the asterick

"* Optional Requires a link back to your store "

Looks like there is one for the top, and bottom, banner.

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Barefootsies

They actually have been kinda slow this week. Odd as it's network wide.

I actually had to crank back up, and update, my TGP and tube. Then threw some traffic at them. Kinda weird fo sho. Not worried. The month always balances out, but it has been a noticeable on sales front.

Hun listed, plus some other key places, traffic has not dropped. Just one of those weeks.

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Jim_Gunn

I see the asterisked comment in red, but what about it? Are you saying that you have done something to make the links or banners return? I see that my header html is unchanged, I just don't see the banner or links.

Barefootsies

No....

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Still no banners

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emmanuelle

Who are you trying to kid? C4S sends you WAY more traffic than you send to your store. They have been protecting their traffic for a long time, it just took them till now to get to you. Over a year ago they banned the ccbill.com string (ie: refer.ccbill.com) and will block outgoing links on new stores as they review them.

If you're so concerned about having full use of your traffic, then set up your own store using the phantom script. Personally, C4S sends me some lovely targeted traffic, and I dont care to fuck it up.

Barefootsies

Yet one more clueless asshat.

For starters, I have been with them 4-5 years. So my stores are not new. I have thousands of links to my store via submits, among other things. Not to mean outright traffic. You have no clue what you are talking about, which is not surprise on GFY. Just because you are lazy and rely solely on C4S traffic doesn't mean that all of us do.

Maybe you should actually look at your traffic logs before you make such asinine statements toots. I think I know where mine comes from. But thanks for your concern.

In the meantime, learn how to generate your own.

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emmanuelle

You're such a fraud

Barefootsies

Riiiiiiiiight. That's why I post my ratios in my fucking sig.

(rolls eyes)

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ninavain

are your sales holding up? My sales died overnight..just wondering who else is experincing the same thing

Barefootsies

Sun, Mon saw a major dip. Tues updated TGP and started throwing some traffic at it. Sales rebounded last night. Been doing updates all week.

Definitely odd. But it's not all C4S sales. Saw it across the board.

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Jim_Gunn

My banners and links are still missing from my C4S store. I am about to retype my domains in text at least in the header. I actually *purchased* traffic to send directly to my C4S store and make a profit on it, so I don't think that it is exactly fair for my links to be removed.

StariaDaniel

First days of Sep were fine, last 4-5 days were the worst in the last months - across all stores we've got (appr. 10) - same traffic as always - don't know what happened. Sales at our other clip stores (not c4s) and paysites are normal - so i guess it's some c4s problem at the moment ...

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tony286

it seems like they also took out the email addys I had on my stores. I had if you have a problem or there is something you would like to see email at. The email addy is gone.

tony286

I feel better and worse at the same time. lol

Barefootsies

Apparently ALL off site linking gone.

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Ryan St. Germain

Linking is gone, but Image files are still allowed. That's part of the reason I have the url in my header image, and on the lead in to all my videos.

Ryan St. Germain

Today's a holiday of sorts, and September 11 was very slow in sales on c4s, for the past few years. I wouldn't expect anything from today, unless it's much later at night.