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eroticsexxx · 09-22-2008, 11:25 PM

20 TB bandwidth per month spread across 10 servers (Windows server 2003/2008)

Minimum specs for each server: Dual Core Processor,
• 2 GB Memory
• 1 x 73 GB SCSI Drive
• Redundant Power
• 100 Mbps

Load balancer + firewall (both capable of 1 Gbps sustained bandwidth)

Present quote: $19,000 per month based on an 18 month contract.

Also include uptime contract, guaranteed build time, support options, bandwidth overage charges, comparative solutions that have been implemented.

Other options will be considered if your organization is aware of another way to maximize the potential of this network - "Clustering" for example.

TidalWave · 09-23-2008, 12:01 AM

Uh, wow. $19,000 is so overkill for that, its crazy. You should be under $10,000 ALL inclusive with premium everything, very easily.

TidalWave · 09-23-2008, 12:08 AM

What email do you want to be contacted at, btw?

FYI, so you dont get screwed some place else:

20TB = about 135Mbps.
An OK price for this would be around ~$20/Mbps.
Then the servers are about $300/month each. This is with full server hardware, not desktop hardware.

Left over is the LB+Firewall and management costs, which will vary depending on your specific needs.

DutchTeenCash · 09-23-2008, 01:23 AM

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webair · 09-23-2008, 10:25 AM

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Cyandin · 09-23-2008, 10:31 AM

eroticsexxx,

Email or IM me, and I'll show you just how much better of a deal we can get you than anyone else! We offer first class service, support, speed and reliability, at prices that send the bargain basement hosts running for cover.

mrkris · 09-23-2008, 10:33 AM

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Rodent · 09-23-2008, 10:36 AM

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marketsmart · 09-23-2008, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TidalWave

20TB = about 135Mbps.
An OK price for this would be around ~$20/Mbps.
Then the servers are about $300/month each. This is with full server hardware, not desktop hardware.

are you high on crack right now?

$20 a meg for 100 meg commit?

$300 for that server config?

HorseShit · 09-23-2008, 10:39 AM

Most hosts here will do better than $19k that sounds like Rackspace or NYi prices screw them

NETBilling-Andy · 09-23-2008, 11:14 AM

Eroticsexxx - we can put together a package to those exact hardware specs (but billing in Mbps, not GB's, but with PLENTY to cover 20TB's before overage). Full rack for the equipment (so more room for you later), 150Mbps premium blended bandwidth, Load balancer, Firewall, 10 Windows licenses - 2003 standard - (Enterprise Ed would run additional $500/mo), and all equipment to those specs - $4500/mo. Bandwidth overage would be at $13/Mbps over 150Mbps.

And we can certainly have a conversation with our Sales Engineers to find out more what you're doing and get their recommendations on equipment and setup. We can mix Level3 CDN bandwidth in there as well for just $2/Mbps more ($15/Mbps). And this is for our world class hosting operation at CaveCreek. If you're interested, shoot me an email at [email protected] and I'll go over more specifics. Thanks!

NETBilling-Andy · 09-23-2008, 11:15 AM

And of course, if anyone else is interested in a similiar deal to that - feel free to hit me up!

Cyandin · 09-23-2008, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart

are you high on crack right now?

$20 a meg for 100 meg commit?

$300 for that server config?

Agreed, that server config should be less than $175, and we can offer 20TB of top tier (no cogent bandwidth for $only 50/TB.

Dont' get shafted by these insane prices! :-)

TidalWave · 09-23-2008, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyandin

Agreed, that server config should be less than $175, and we can offer 20TB of top tier (no cogent bandwidth for $only 50/TB.

Dont' get shafted by these insane prices! :-)

oh yeah? a SAS server for less than $175? i say youre full of bullshit. MAYBE if you also got a big bandwidth commit you would sell it for $175. but not for just the server alone.

DarkJedi · 09-23-2008, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroticsexxx

20 TB bandwidth per month spread across 10 servers (Windows server 2003/2008)

wow, that's gonna be one hell of a tube site

Cyandin · 09-23-2008, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TidalWave

What email do you want to be contacted at, btw?

FYI, so you dont get screwed some place else:

20TB = about 135Mbps.
An OK price for this would be around ~$20/Mbps.
Then the servers are about $300/month each. This is with full server hardware, not desktop hardware.

Left over is the LB+Firewall and management costs, which will vary depending on your specific needs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroticsexxx

20 TB bandwidth per month spread across 10 servers (Windows server 2003/2008)

Minimum specs for each server: Dual Core Processor,
? 2 GB Memory
? 1 x 73 GB SCSI Drive
? Redundant Power
? 100 Mbps

Load balancer + firewall (both capable of 1 Gbps sustained bandwidth)

Present quote: $19,000 per month based on an 18 month contract.

Also include uptime contract, guaranteed build time, support options, bandwidth overage charges, comparative solutions that have been implemented.

Other options will be considered if your organization is aware of another way to maximize the potential of this network - "Clustering" for example.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TidalWave

oh yeah? a SAS server for less than $175? i say youre full of bullshit. MAYBE if you also got a big bandwidth commit you would sell it for $175. but not for just the server alone.

==
Minimum specs for each server: Dual Core Processor,
? 2 GB Memory
? 1 x 73 GB SCSI Drive
? Redundant Power
? 100 Mbps
==

Face it, this is just not a $300/month server. Additonally, he's only asking for 1x73GB hdd (we know he means SAS, not actual (P)SCSI), not multiple 146 or 300GB's.

Also, 'Dual-core'. This could be either a Woodcrest or a Conroe, for example. Again, NOT $300/month material. I stand by the fact that this can be a $175/month server, no problem. Sorry if you can't compete with that.

Also, I don't know who you think you're fooling with $20/mbps prices, because that's just hilarious.

TidalWave · 09-23-2008, 12:36 PM

Did I quote him you idiot? I said it should be around there. I was helping him out from his previous quote.

When I said around $300, I was thinking about a REAL server, with the latest hardware.

Intel Xeon X3350 Quad Core - 12MB Cache, 1333FSB
2GB DDR2-667 RAM
73GB SAS 15K RPM HDD
Adaptec 3405 SAS Hardware Controller
1U Supermicro Server with 4 Hot-Swap Bays

Not some POS outdated hardware (possibly even desktop hardware) that you are thinking about

Klen · 09-23-2008, 01:17 PM

When you pick up hosting company for this,hit me for managment i can beat any price.

mrkris · 09-23-2008, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TidalWave

Did I quote him you idiot? I said it should be around there. I was helping him out from his previous quote.

When I said around $300, I was thinking about a REAL server, with the latest hardware.

Intel Xeon X3350 Quad Core - 12MB Cache, 1333FSB
2GB DDR2-667 RAM
73GB SAS 15K RPM HDD
Adaptec 3405 SAS Hardware Controller
1U Supermicro Server with 4 Hot-Swap Bays

Not some POS outdated hardware (possibly even desktop hardware) that you are thinking about

I think you should step back and rethink your slams against people. Your "Real" server is rather pathetic. Your average webmaster will bottleneck the drive and ram before it even utilizes the quad core. You're making yourself, and your company, look pretty bad.

TidalWave: Hit me up if you want to learn something
Everyone else: Hit me up if you want a great server for cheap.

Spudstr · 09-23-2008, 02:06 PM

20/Mbps for premium blend bandwidth isn't a bad deal. its a good one.

now take in consideration for the load balancer and firewall?

Quick someone name me a load balancer that can do layer7+ handle 20+ backend nodes that doesn't cost 20k+ per balancer?

Same for a HA pair of firewalls that can run 1Gbps worth of firewalling without killing itself?

300/box if its including management, SLA and proper load balancing and firewall equipment is a reasonable price.

No one wants a open source layer4 load balancer, I'm talking F5/Zeus/Netscaler and netscreen/Cisco ASA type firewall at the minimum.

Now if your paying all that money and not getting quality hardware in return i'd be questioning the situation. Ask the company for the firewall/load balancing setup. that will tell you if your getting jerked around on the pricing or not.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-23-2008, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TidalWave

Did I quote him you idiot?

... Seriously...

eroticsexxx · 09-23-2008, 05:54 PM

Thanks all.

I'll go through the provided information and make contact tomorrow. Had meetings all day today.

No. It's not for a tube site. I'm expanding a mainstream site/service that currently features two television stations and 6 radio stations on a windows media server 2003 platform.

eroticsexxx · 09-23-2008, 05:59 PM

An idea of what was given on the hardware load balancer and firewall side.

Cisco ASA 5550 Firewall
? 1000 Mbps Connectivity
? 1200 Mbps Aggregate and 650,000 Concurrent Connections
? Stateful packet inspection
? Fully Managed Device, includes 24x7 Monitoring, Rule Changes and 1 Hour
Replacement Guarantee

$2890 per month

Cisco CSS 11503 Load Balancer
? 1 Gbps
? Layer 4 / Layer 7 Load Balancing
? Supports IP or Cookie-based Persistence
? Fully Managed, Includes 24x7 Monitoring, Device Configuration and
Updates, and 1-Hour Hardware Replacement Guarantee

$1225 per month

Setup fee for both devices has been waived as part of the proposed 18 month contract.

HorseShit · 09-23-2008, 06:27 PM

enter spudstr

NETbilling · 09-23-2008, 11:02 PM

I will ask Caz from Righthosting to contact you. You will be in very good hand there.

Thanks, Mitch

facialfreak · 09-23-2008, 11:40 PM

I love when host/designers/coders/writers/etc fight each other in public forums ...

It makes the choices so much easier to narrow down who to do business with ...

Ycaza · 09-24-2008, 12:24 AM

I am looking over your specs and think that 19000 is more than 10 times what i would charge you.

Am I right in thinking 10 windows machines
1 load balancer
1 firewall
and 20 TB of BW (which would translate to between 60-120 Mbps)

if you email me i will beat that price by at least a factor of 10

note windows makes easy but bad clusters.

oh if your max is 150 Mbps 10 machines sounds very much like over kill here

email me caz at righthosting

Ycaza · 09-24-2008, 12:28 AM

Other note, Load balancers capable of a gig are cheap, firewalls capable of a gig ( a full one for real, not some cisco bullshit) are not cheap. something cable of 250 will probably do, but only you could answer this.

HunkyLuke · 09-24-2008, 06:27 AM

I can provide you with a NationalNet quote for fully managed, quality dedicated servers including 24x7 support and monitoring, please email me on [email protected]

cheers!
Luke

Spudstr · 09-24-2008, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ycaza

Other note, Load balancers capable of a gig are cheap, firewalls capable of a gig ( a full one for real, not some cisco bullshit) are not cheap. something cable of 250 will probably do, but only you could answer this.

Please show me a full layer7 load balancer than can do 1gig or more that cost less than 20k a peice. And if you recommend anything other than F5/ZXTM or a Netscaller you are an idiot.

Khesser · 09-24-2008, 07:16 AM

Eroticsexxx

email me at my address below, we'd be happy at NationalNet to look this over with you and get you into the right solution at the right price

09-22-2008, 11:25 PM	#1
eroticsexxx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nassau, Bahamas Posts: 3,133	Server Hosting companies - Comparative quote? 20 TB bandwidth per month spread across 10 servers (Windows server 2003/2008) Minimum specs for each server: Dual Core Processor, • 2 GB Memory • 1 x 73 GB SCSI Drive • Redundant Power • 100 Mbps Load balancer + firewall (both capable of 1 Gbps sustained bandwidth) Present quote: $19,000 per month based on an 18 month contract. Also include uptime contract, guaranteed build time, support options, bandwidth overage charges, comparative solutions that have been implemented. Other options will be considered if your organization is aware of another way to maximize the potential of this network - "Clustering" for example. __________________ Last edited by eroticsexxx; 09-22-2008 at 11:27 PM..

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TidalWave Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,706	What email do you want to be contacted at, btw? FYI, so you dont get screwed some place else: 20TB = about 135Mbps. An OK price for this would be around ~$20/Mbps. Then the servers are about $300/month each. This is with full server hardware, not desktop hardware. Left over is the LB+Firewall and management costs, which will vary depending on your specific needs. __________________ www.SwiftNode.com Last edited by TidalWave; 09-23-2008 at 12:12 AM..

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NETBilling-Andy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Phoenix Posts: 182	Eroticsexxx - we can put together a package to those exact hardware specs (but billing in Mbps, not GB's, but with PLENTY to cover 20TB's before overage). Full rack for the equipment (so more room for you later), 150Mbps premium blended bandwidth, Load balancer, Firewall, 10 Windows licenses - 2003 standard - (Enterprise Ed would run additional $500/mo), and all equipment to those specs - $4500/mo. Bandwidth overage would be at $13/Mbps over 150Mbps. And we can certainly have a conversation with our Sales Engineers to find out more what you're doing and get their recommendations on equipment and setup. We can mix Level3 CDN bandwidth in there as well for just $2/Mbps more ($15/Mbps). And this is for our world class hosting operation at CaveCreek. If you're interested, shoot me an email at [email protected] and I'll go over more specifics. Thanks! __________________ Andrew Kiefer Sales Account Executive / Merchant Relations (888) 357-8166 \| (661) 252-2456 ICQ: 685463252 \| Skype: andyk9876

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TidalWave Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,706	Did I quote him you idiot? I said it should be around there. I was helping him out from his previous quote. When I said around $300, I was thinking about a REAL server, with the latest hardware. Intel Xeon X3350 Quad Core - 12MB Cache, 1333FSB 2GB DDR2-667 RAM 73GB SAS 15K RPM HDD Adaptec 3405 SAS Hardware Controller 1U Supermicro Server with 4 Hot-Swap Bays Not some POS outdated hardware (possibly even desktop hardware) that you are thinking about __________________ www.SwiftNode.com Last edited by TidalWave; 09-23-2008 at 12:38 PM..

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Spudstr Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In a Tater Patch Posts: 2,321	20/Mbps for premium blend bandwidth isn't a bad deal. its a good one. now take in consideration for the load balancer and firewall? Quick someone name me a load balancer that can do layer7+ handle 20+ backend nodes that doesn't cost 20k+ per balancer? Same for a HA pair of firewalls that can run 1Gbps worth of firewalling without killing itself? 300/box if its including management, SLA and proper load balancing and firewall equipment is a reasonable price. No one wants a open source layer4 load balancer, I'm talking F5/Zeus/Netscaler and netscreen/Cisco ASA type firewall at the minimum. Now if your paying all that money and not getting quality hardware in return i'd be questioning the situation. Ask the company for the firewall/load balancing setup. that will tell you if your getting jerked around on the pricing or not. __________________ Managed Hosting - Colocation - Network Services Yellow Fiber Networks icq: 19876563

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eroticsexxx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nassau, Bahamas Posts: 3,133	Thanks all. I'll go through the provided information and make contact tomorrow. Had meetings all day today. No. It's not for a tube site. I'm expanding a mainstream site/service that currently features two television stations and 6 radio stations on a windows media server 2003 platform. __________________

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eroticsexxx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nassau, Bahamas Posts: 3,133	An idea of what was given on the hardware load balancer and firewall side. Cisco ASA 5550 Firewall ? 1000 Mbps Connectivity ? 1200 Mbps Aggregate and 650,000 Concurrent Connections ? Stateful packet inspection ? Fully Managed Device, includes 24x7 Monitoring, Rule Changes and 1 Hour Replacement Guarantee $2890 per month Cisco CSS 11503 Load Balancer ? 1 Gbps ? Layer 4 / Layer 7 Load Balancing ? Supports IP or Cookie-based Persistence ? Fully Managed, Includes 24x7 Monitoring, Device Configuration and Updates, and 1-Hour Hardware Replacement Guarantee $1225 per month Setup fee for both devices has been waived as part of the proposed 18 month contract. __________________

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Ycaza Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the 805 Posts: 4,290	I am looking over your specs and think that 19000 is more than 10 times what i would charge you. Am I right in thinking 10 windows machines 1 load balancer 1 firewall and 20 TB of BW (which would translate to between 60-120 Mbps) if you email me i will beat that price by at least a factor of 10 note windows makes easy but bad clusters. oh if your max is 150 Mbps 10 machines sounds very much like over kill here email me caz at righthosting __________________ Caz Thrush Head Honcho [email protected] http://thrushtech.com ICQ: 304883574 do people still icq?

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