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Old 09-26-2008, 04:01 PM   #51
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I've been saying for a while that I think our kicked up military action in Afghanistan and now even in parts of Pakistan are Bush working hard to get Bin Laden. If he could some how capture or confirm with evidence that Bin Laden has been killed it would really help McCain out.

Also, I think the main reason people are attacking Palin for her lack of experience is that McCain is old and has had cancer 4 times. He, more than any first time candidate in recent history, is a threat to die in office so the qualifications of his VP should be looked at closely.

Yes, and on that note, lets look at the fact that Obama is a heavy smoker and can't quit. That is a direct risk to his health. And Biden has had multiple aneurysms - meaning, potentially, Obama could get cancer and Biden have an aneurysm - then Pelosi takes over.

But this goes back to why I posted in this thread in the first place... its nice to trash the other side, but if your not at least honest enough to accept and admit your side has the same if not bigger issues, then you are simply a partisan hack with no intellectual honesty.
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Old 09-26-2008, 04:03 PM   #52
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My mother just died of cancer, and previous to that she lived 2000 miles away from me.
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Well - hopefully she was proud. God bless her for bringing you to life.
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I cant believe you work for playboy. If republicans had their way there would be no playboy why do you think hugh hefner is a democrat?
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Well - hopefully she was proud. God bless her for bringing you to life.
If I ever come up to ICS I look forward to meeting you.
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Yes, and on that note, lets look at the fact that Obama is a heavy smoker and can't quit. That is a direct risk to his health. And Biden has had multiple aneurysms - meaning, potentially, Obama could get cancer and Biden have an aneurysm - then Pelosi takes over.

But this goes back to why I posted in this thread in the first place... its nice to trash the other side, but if your not at least honest enough to accept and admit your side has the same if not bigger issues, then you are simply a partisan hack with no intellectual honesty.
You really think that has the same likelihood of happening as a 72 year old recurring cancer survivor dying within an 8 year term? I do not think that is anywhere near being the same, if not a bigger issue. I also do not see it as intellectual dishonesty.
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quoted for truth.

i'm sure the self gaping obama supporters will be ripping ya pretty soon.

it makes me sick to think the black jesus or shell shocked old man will be running our country soon.


You were certainly proven right today. Amazing. I criticized BOTH campaigns... but since I'm not LOCK-STEP with the OBAMA-NATION - its nothing but insults and attacks. Typical.
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I cant believe you work for playboy. If republicans had their way there would be no playboy why do you think hugh hefner is a democrat?
Hopefully he'll be yanked from the payroll once they see this thread
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Hopefully he'll be yanked from the payroll once they see this thread
Why? Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Just because his is stupid, doesn't mean he isn't allowed to have and state it.

But spewing idiotic horsecrap while on the clock is something I doubt they would appreciate.
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You were certainly proven right today. Amazing. I criticized BOTH campaigns... but since I'm not LOCK-STEP with the OBAMA-NATION - its nothing but insults and attacks. Typical.
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You were certainly proven right today. Amazing. I criticized BOTH campaigns... but since I'm not LOCK-STEP with the OBAMA-NATION - its nothing but insults and attacks. Typical.

wow I cant believe ICS / Playboy has you on the payroll

You must be hef's brother or something because it is obvious you are an idiot

So since you are flying the sig while you spew this potential industry killing nonsense.... I guess its safe to assume that others at ICS / playboy agree with you

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Old 09-26-2008, 04:28 PM   #61
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wow I cant believe ICS / Playboy has you on the payroll

You must be hef's brother or something because it is obvious you are an idiot

So since you are flying the sig while you spew this potential industry killing nonsense.... I guess its safe to assume that others at ICS / playboy agree with you

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Makes total sense - since I said IM NOT VOTING - since no one is qualified.
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Yes, and on that note, lets look at the fact that Obama is a heavy smoker and can't quit. That is a direct risk to his health. And Biden has had multiple aneurysms - meaning, potentially, Obama could get cancer and Biden have an aneurysm - then Pelosi takes over.

But this goes back to why I posted in this thread in the first place... its nice to trash the other side, but if your not at least honest enough to accept and admit your side has the same if not bigger issues, then you are simply a partisan hack with no intellectual honesty.
I agree with you that both sides have issues. On the health front, regardless of who you like or don't like or if you hate the both, you have to admit that the odds are McCain would be the one that would have health problems. Sure Obama could get cancer or have a sudden heart attack, anything could happen, but when you make a bet you pick the odds that best suit you and if you had to bet money between obama and McCain on who would have serious health problems first would you not pick the guy that is 72 and has already had cancer 4 times?
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True. But, I've basically been a Republican since I could think for myself. But, I didn't vote for Bush last time and I'm not voting for McCain this time. I do like Palin - quite a bit actually - but much like Obama - she is not ready for the job. 5 - 10 years, perhaps. I would never vote for Obama because he is a socialist - at least Clinton, understands that this is a Capitalist nation - even though she panders on social issues to what she thinks is her base.

Either way, I cannot vote for anyone who I believe is detrimental to the office they are running for. I dont care who they are.
This intrigues me. What about Palin do you like?
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I agree with you that both sides have issues. On the health front, regardless of who you like or don't like or if you hate the both, you have to admit that the odds are McCain would be the one that would have health problems. Sure Obama could get cancer or have a sudden heart attack, anything could happen, but when you make a bet you pick the odds that best suit you and if you had to bet money between obama and McCain on who would have serious health problems first would you not pick the guy that is 72 and has already had cancer 4 times?


Like I said.. .I still totally agree with you... and am not voting for McCain.
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This intrigues me. What about Palin do you like?
I like the fact that she has stood up to her own party. While she, like every other Politician has flopped on some issues - for the purposes of political expediency, has for the most part proven to be on the side of the people and more so than any other candidate in this race stood up for the people.

Ever since "Politician" bacame a profession in this country, everythign has gone to shit. Why is it, that LAWYERS are the butt of more jokes about their integrity and character - but totally revered as politicians?

If anyone in the 2008 presidential race is a 'Washington outsider' it's Palin. Personally, I think that's more of what the U.S. needs in Washington. I would have thought the same about Obama - until it was clear that he is just as tied to PAC's, lobbyists and special interest groups as every other prominent 'lifer' in the Congress.
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I like the fact that she has stood up to her own party. While she, like every other Politician has flopped on some issues - for the purposes of political expediency, has for the most part proven to be on the side of the people and more so than any other candidate in this race stood up for the people.

Ever since "Politician" bacame a profession in this country, everythign has gone to shit. Why is it, that LAWYERS are the butt of more jokes about their integrity and character - but totally revered as politicians?

If anyone in the 2008 presidential race is a 'Washington outsider' it's Palin. Personally, I think that's more of what the U.S. needs in Washington. I would have thought the same about Obama - until it was clear that he is just as tied to PAC's, lobbyists and special interest groups as every other prominent 'lifer' in the Congress.
Fair enough.

I personally think her flaws outweigh her strengths and I think she has proven that, under the correct circumstances, she would be a terrible leader, but that is just my opinion.
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I like the fact that she has stood up to her own party. While she, like every other Politician has flopped on some issues - for the purposes of political expediency, has for the most part proven to be on the side of the people and more so than any other candidate in this race stood up for the people.

Ever since "Politician" bacame a profession in this country, everythign has gone to shit. Why is it, that LAWYERS are the butt of more jokes about their integrity and character - but totally revered as politicians?

If anyone in the 2008 presidential race is a 'Washington outsider' it's Palin. Personally, I think that's more of what the U.S. needs in Washington. I would have thought the same about Obama - until it was clear that he is just as tied to PAC's, lobbyists and special interest groups as every other prominent 'lifer' in the Congress.
she stood up to no one and she has taken pork with both hands. She hired a lobbyist when she was mayor of bumpfuck alaska and left it 20 million in debt. Took 250 million for the bridge to nowhere when it became unpopular became against it but kept the money. Her state takes the most pork in the country.
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Fair enough.

I personally think her flaws outweigh her strengths and I think she has proven that, under the correct circumstances, she would be a terrible leader, but that is just my opinion.
Yes - that's probably true. But she will get her opportunity grow and learn. The only advantage she does have right now - is that she was an executive. She actually had to be held accountable for stuff. None of the other 3 have any experience at all in that arena.

Only 15 of our 43 presidents were Senators first. There is a reason for that. I guess we are about to get #16.
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Whiplash, your comments bewilder me as much as my neighbors do... who also likes Palin for a host of reasons that have NOTHING to do with her qualifications for VICE PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES.

It scares the shit out of me that she could be, as Cafferty put it "one 72 year old heartbeat away" from being our president.

"For a seventy-two-year-old cancer survivor to have placed Sarah Palin directly behind himself in line for the Presidency was an act of almost incomprehensible cynicism and irresponsibility." - one of countless quotes regarding her abilities.

McCain put our country in direct jeopardy by calling her up. He was desparate and did what he thought was best for HIM......... not for US.
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Kinda like the people that non-stop bitch about the government yet never lifted a finger to get involved and try to make things different.
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Yes - that's probably true. But she will get her opportunity grow and learn.
You're killing me man.

She can "grow and learn" on her own time, not as 2nd in command of our country.
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You're killing me man.

She can "grow and learn" on her own time, not as 2nd in command of our country.


lol .. again, why i said now is not her time.
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Kinda like the people that non-stop bitch about the government yet never lifted a finger to get involved and try to make things different.


True, I guess if the 8 years I served this country qualify me as not lifting a finger. And I fully intend to vote - I always do and always will. I'm just not voting for anyone running for President - since I am not going to have a hand in electing someone who is either unqualified or to old and possibly not all that sound.
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You're killing me man.

She can "grow and learn" on her own time, not as 2nd in command of our country.

Oh and... exactly why I couldn't ever bring myslef to vote for Obama. He has less experience that Palin. Only thing he has over her at this point - is three years worth of preperation to answer questions. But test preperation does not equal experience.
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Oh and... exactly why I couldn't ever bring myslef to vote for Obama. He has less experience that Palin. Only thing he has over her at this point - is three years worth of preperation to answer questions. But test preperation does not equal experience.
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Cant. Too many local issues to vote for/against. But rest assured - I wont vote for either top ticket. You can have that all to yourself.
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True, I guess if the 8 years I served this country qualify me as not lifting a finger. And I fully intend to vote - I always do and always will. I'm just not voting for anyone running for President - since I am not going to have a hand in electing someone who is either unqualified or to old and possibly not all that sound.
Do you even read posts before you reply to them?

I said "Kinda like the people..." If you want to lump yourself in that category, be my guest but I didn't put you there.

That being said, complaining about the candidates and bashing others for THEIR choices or beliefs while at the same time saying you aren't going to vote is ridiculous. If you don't have any investment then what is your point.

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I have to wonder though. If, when they gave out all these sub-prime mortgages, if they made them fixed rate instead of ARM or interest only, would all this have happened. Many seem to agree the problem really started to set in when interest rates went up and people could no longer afford the home. If they made he loans fixed rate so that people could continue to pay the amount they were able to afford for the life of the loan would this have happened?
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Oh but wait, now you say you fully intend to vote... Right?



He's not voting on the top of the ticket.
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Old 09-27-2008, 01:34 PM   #83
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McCain does have the woman who nearly drove HP into bankruptcy before bailing out with a 40 million dollar golden parachute and he has Phil Gramm just do a Google search for phil gramm + enron to see some of the wonders he has pulled off.

That said, I'm curious what you suggest we, the voters, do. The way I see it we are fucked either way. At this point we have to pick who we think will fuck us the least. It is kind of like asking, "would you like getting ass raped?" or "would you like getting ass raped with some spit on the dick for lube?"

And please don't just say Ron Paul.
Ron Paul.




Just kidding. I like taking my chances with someone who came from nothing (like myself), Was elected by CONSERVATIVES who said "we can trust him" to the highest position at a top Ivy League school. He did this while being half black, having a name that sounds like the biggest terrorist in world. He is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Mccain in the intelligence department. He will cross party lines and work with others to make our world more safe. He has allready proven his support of the middle/lower class which benefits us all. Mccain is a loose cannon who is a sepratist and thats dangerous in many experts opinions. Palin is a liability for her ignorance on every import aspect of how our country works. How about elected someone who wants to make sure your kids are never turned away from an emergency room. Fucking so many uneducated creatures running around this country that they actually vote against themselves in every way. Sad.
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Did some one in this thread say Falin is more experienced than Obama?

If you seriously believe that, please do us all a favor and ctrl-k irl, kthx.
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Did some one in this thread say Falin is more experienced than Obama?

If you seriously believe that, please do us all a favor and ctrl-k irl, kthx.

CNN's Jack Cafferty: If Sarah Palin Being One Heartbeat Away "Doesn't Scare The Hell Out Of You, It Should"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_129724.html
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LOL.... yeah, thats totally right!!! Like the EARMARKS that the DEMOCRAT plan had for ACORN & LARAZA that they tried to sneak through on this BAILOUT bill????

Thats totally pathetic. Why not ask the THIEF to justify why he robbed the bank?
Link? Do you know what ACORN does?
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TRANSFER OF A PERCENTAGE OF PROFITS.

DEPOSITS. Not less than 20 percent of any profit realized on the sale of each troubled asset purchased under this Act shall be deposited as provided in paragraph (2).

USE OF DEPOSITS. Of the amount referred to in paragraph (1) 65 percent shall be deposited into the Housing Trust Fund established under section 1338 of the Federal Housing Enterprises Regulatory Reform Act of 1992 (12 U.S.C. 4568); and 35 percent shall be deposited into the Capital Magnet Fund established under section 1339 of that Act (12 U.S.C. 4569).
Do you see anything about ACORN in there?
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